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Maytag LAT2600AAE - flooded laundry room twice now.
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Post# 885370   6/15/2016 at 18:45 (2,843 days old) by RoseRed ()        

Yesterday I found the washer sitting in a big puddle/sizable amt. of water after a wash load. This is the second time. The washer was set on high water level and the load was 2 jeans, 3 shirts, 3 pairs of socks. As before, I removed the front panel and the inside of the cabinet was wet. Today I ran a couple of wash cycles and again, no leaks from anywhere.



Anyone have any ideas as to what may be happening?







Post# 885388 , Reply# 1   6/15/2016 at 19:44 (2,843 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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No, but just to say that high water level seems too much for 2 jeans, 3 shirts, and 3 pairs of socks.


Post# 885391 , Reply# 2   6/15/2016 at 20:07 (2,843 days old) by westtexman (Lubbock, Texas)        

My Mom has an older Dependable Care Maytag that springs a leak about every 8 to 10 years or so. In her case, the water intake flume gets clogged with hard water residue. This causes some of the water to divert and spray down the outer tub and onto the floor while also spraying where it should when filling. The replacement part is around $55.00 and doesn't take the repairman long to replace. She's had it since 1992 and it's still going strong!

Post# 885430 , Reply# 3   6/16/2016 at 01:03 (2,843 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
OR......

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.... Maybe the water is being pumped out too quickly and your drain is being overwhelmed, backing up and overflowing onto the floor. That happened at my moms house a number of times, but we were usually able to catch it before it made a huge mess on the kitchen floor.

It's just a thought.

By the way, I 2nd that..... too small of a load for the water level, or too much water for such a small load.

Kevin


Post# 885454 , Reply# 4   6/16/2016 at 04:40 (2,842 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Since it is wet inside the machine, it sounds like it could be happening when it is filling with water or on a spray rinse. Is it possible the intake flume could be doing this? This one seems to have a different fill inlet than the older machines, so I don't know. I do know that you have one of the last machines made by Maytag. They were and continue to be excellent machines and will last a very long time.

Post# 885473 , Reply# 5   6/16/2016 at 07:47 (2,842 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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well at this point, you have possibly two options....

re-run that same load to see what happens, it may or may not do the same thing, plus you may have to run it several times to get the same results...

or carefully watch it through the next few weeks of laundry until you catch where the water is coming from....


you have a mystery currently on your hands....and there's the possibility it may never happen again...


Post# 885547 , Reply# 6   6/16/2016 at 14:58 (2,842 days old) by RoseRed ()        

Water level: I don't normally do a mixed load with jeans. It's usually a full load of like weight items--all jeans, all shirts, etc. I used the large (high) thinking the weight of the jeans needed it. Would a setting between medium and large be more appropriate for this type/size of mixed load?

Thinking back to the first time, it was also a mixed load with jeans. I'm suspecting that the washer may not be handling well a mixed load of heavier items (jeans) mixed with the lighter items, and it throws the tub off kilter/balance during spin. If the tub is still off balance the spray rinse could be hitting the top of the tub ring and the water runs outside of the tub.

Taking Yogitunes suggestion, I'll be doing some testing with the same type of wash loads (jeans-shirts)to see what happens.

This also has me wondering about spring tension. If the tension is loose, would this also contribute to going way off balance with the mixed loads?


Post# 885549 , Reply# 7   6/16/2016 at 15:10 (2,842 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Tub Seal

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I had that happen with my Dependable Care as well. 

At first I would notice it every so often, and thought that the spray rinse plumb had been blocked and splashed over the tub. 

 

One night I noticed a great amount of water as the machine was running.  I took the front off and there was water running from the center, over the transmission and everywhere. 

 

Turned out to be the tub seal. 


Post# 885587 , Reply# 8   6/16/2016 at 19:00 (2,842 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Leaking Maytag Washer

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You have to see what is wet after a cycle where the machine leaked. If it is wet all over the outside of the outer tub it is not the tub seal for instance. If you don't have any small children around leave the front panel off till you see when in the cycle it is leaking and where.

 

I am going to guess that the inlet valve is sticking open sometimes and the machine is overflowing before the valve decides to close.

 

It does NOT have anything to do with load size, tension of the motor carriage springs.

 

John L.


Post# 885602 , Reply# 9   6/16/2016 at 20:21 (2,842 days old) by RoseRed ()        
inlet valve

@combo52

Hadn't thought of the inlet valve sticking and causing an overflow. No children so the front panel is staying off.

Springs: the springs I asked about are the 3 large springs that extend from the outer tub to the base.


Post# 886466 , Reply# 10   6/22/2016 at 17:27 (2,836 days old) by RoseRed ()        
caught the washer in the act

Caught the washer today just as it started spilling water over the tub ring. It filled for the wash but instead of agitating, the tub was spinning. The spin caused the tub water to spill over.

Since the last flood, I'd done a bunch of wash loads with no problem until today.

Transmission failure? Brake? Other?


Post# 886523 , Reply# 11   6/23/2016 at 04:37 (2,835 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Leaking Maytag Washer

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Not a bad transmission or bad brake, was the timer still in the wash cycle where you started it when this happened?

 

If so you have at least two problems, if the timer had advanced to spin when you caught it you only have one problem. either a bad inlet valve or problem with the water level system.


Post# 886538 , Reply# 12   6/23/2016 at 06:52 (2,835 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

I think that it could be a brake problem. If it filled to the correct level and stopped filling then it is not the fill valve or level system. A failed brake will allow the tub to spin backwards during agitation. Because the motor is running in the agitation direction the pump is not draining. A full tub will quickly sling water over the top. What may have happened is that the brake assembly unscrewed and dropped down on the drive pulley. The only thing I can't explain is why this would be an intermittent problem. I have seen this happen several times on machines from this time frame but once it unscrews it will stay that way until fixed. Ed

Post# 886582 , Reply# 13   6/23/2016 at 11:37 (2,835 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Water Level + Bad Brake?

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Perhaps the spinning isn't enough at medium water level or less to cause a splash out. But at a high water level, it would.

Since the front cover is off, the transmission should be winding in a clockwise direction during agitation if the brake is hosed.

Malcolm


Post# 886587 , Reply# 14   6/23/2016 at 11:59 (2,835 days old) by RoseRed ()        

@combo52

Yes, the timer was in the wash mode. I'd been monitoring the water fill and it stops at the set water level for both the wash and rinse. What the washer did yesterday, it filled for the wash but instead of going into agitation mode, the spin tub and agitator spun clockwise causing the water to run up and spill over the tub ring.

I did another test run last evening and the same happened. Filled to the set level for wash, stopped fill, spin tub and agitator spun clockwise spilling water. Setting the timer to spin and it will spin/drain.

@repair-man
I tested the washer again this morning. This time it went off in the rinse cycle. It did agitate in wash mode with a very slight indexing of spin tub. Spin/drained as normal, filled to set level for rinse and instead of agitating the spin tub and agitator spun counter clockwise.


I did notice this too. When the washer does the counter clockwise spin instead of agitating as it should, the motor is not sliding back and forth.

I'll be checking the underside today, to see if anything down there looks out of place. Besides brake failure, would incorrect positioning of the drive lug cause this kind of problem?


Post# 886589 , Reply# 15   6/23/2016 at 12:13 (2,835 days old) by RoseRed ()        
correct previous post

In describing the test run I did this morning, It should that the spin tub and agitator spun clockwise during rinse, instead of "counter" clockwise.

Post# 886603 , Reply# 16   6/23/2016 at 14:35 (2,835 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

I think that Malcolm has it correct that larger level load leak and smaller ones do not. It definitely sounds like a brake problem to me. Still bet that the brake assembly unscrewed (unwound) from its threaded connection to the damper hub. How well does the brake work if you lift the lid when set to spin ? Does it stop as normal or coast for a long time ?

Post# 886606 , Reply# 17   6/23/2016 at 15:42 (2,835 days old) by RoseRed ()        

@repair-man

I got this washer back in March. I did notice around that time that it was coasting to a stop. I asked here and and a member said when the lid is opened during spin it should stop pretty quick. The stop action did get a lot better with more use. Thought that the coasting was due to the washer not being in use for 2 yrs, it just needed time to work the coasting out.

But now that you brought up the coasting, it didn't hit me at the time of this last test. After it did the wash agitation, spin/drain, the tub still had an amount of spin momentum when the rinse fill started.


Post# 886637 , Reply# 18   6/23/2016 at 20:05 (2,835 days old) by RoseRed ()        
upside down bearing

Removed the drive pulley and saw the bearing that sits on the drive pulley was upside down. When I had cleaned the drive shaft/pulley/bearing and re-installed, I completely missed that I put the bearing the wrong way. Added a bit more grease to shaft and bearing and put it all back together.

I've done 1 medium and 2 large loads and so far so good.


Post# 886682 , Reply# 19   6/24/2016 at 04:35 (2,834 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Oops! It happens sometimes. Glad you got it fixed. Those are normally really good machines that last a long long time.


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