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Post# 132882   6/3/2006 at 07:08 (6,528 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        

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Post# 132899 , Reply# 1   6/3/2006 at 09:30 (6,528 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Those are cool, and work well.

I had the pleasure of loading one. TAKES GETTING USED TO!


Post# 132902 , Reply# 2   6/3/2006 at 09:37 (6,528 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        
Belt driven

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I bet it cleans great!

Rich


Post# 132935 , Reply# 3   6/3/2006 at 13:25 (6,528 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Original Maytags

I bought 5 of these new and a couple used. The capacity was amazing. Water come from every direction so random loading was truly an option. The full size wash arm on top, directly hitting the silverware and coming down through the plates offrrded more cleaning efficiency.
Anything loaded face down, cups, bowls, pans etc, on the lower rack got a full frontal attack from the full size lower wash arm.
Just to be sure, they added a spray from the middle as well.
The design makes so much more sense than the traditional. Just like Toggles said, it took some getting used to in order to maximize it's capacity. Any one visiting was at a total loss.
It was not built like a tank, it is a tank. Porcelain interior, heavily coated racks and built simply, just like the Maytag washer. It is uncanny to look at the resemblance in design.
It would sit silently and fill and then the roar and swoosh would begin. The belt driven pump took a few seconds to rev up to full force and you could hear it taking off, a bit like a 747. It made a swoosha, swoosha, as it revolved, very fast. The JetSpray washing action was pumped out through smaller openings in the wash arm, than other machines, making it really powerful at jetting off soil.
Pump out was really loud.
Then a fan forced dry.
You opened the door and there, no matter how dirty it was or who or how it was loaded: Spotlessly clean dishes. It out cleaned any other machine around.
It was too odd a design to catch on. Maytag switched to a more conventional design, in 91. I have had three of the newer ones , one of which I am using today.
I have never used a Maytag dishwasher of any design that did not clean well. The newer ones are quieter and have less capacity, but since they use less water and energy, you can run more loads and still be a good person.
Kelly


Post# 133148 , Reply# 4   6/4/2006 at 22:38 (6,526 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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I am running one of these as i type, and i agree it took getting used to. I dont think this creans as well as my newer design KA, especially for the silverware. Tall items such as stock pots, and iced tea pitchers have to be loaded in the center of the upper rack, and tilted to catch the water from the center tower.

Also, the corners of the lower rack do NOT clean glasses, in fact they will come out with a lot of crud in them. I feel the filtering is about as efficient as the older GE design (potsscrubber 700 or 900.

also, my maytag dosent heat the water, so i had to turn the water heater up practically all the way.


Post# 133433 , Reply# 5   6/5/2006 at 16:38 (6,526 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Crummy Maytag

What I find most fascinating on this site, is how each of us can have such different experiences with the same product.

I certainly believe what you say and can only respond with, that has not been my experience.

I also was not running one when it was twenty years old, either.

I do believe the newer Maytags have advantages in being much quieter and have increased cleaning efficacy, but do not hold as many dishes as some other machines.

Kelly


Post# 133572 , Reply# 6   6/6/2006 at 00:07 (6,525 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I have this dishwasher in my kitchen now and love it. I have a rather long, ongoing affection for this dishwasher design. Like any dishwasher, they take some getting used to with regard to the noise, the loading pattern and spray directions, the noise, and the noise. They hold a ton and scour everything you throw at them. That pleasure nozzle in the center is extremely powerful and quite capable with most pans - yesterday's Turbo Zone".

My aunt had this dishwasher installed in her home when I was 9 and I was hooked. The sounds had me riveted. We bought one in 1981, a portable and it sounded like we'd unleashed a freight train from the box but it never failed to clean circles around the roto-rack it replaced. I inherited that machine in 1987 and used it in my own kitchen until 91 when I sold it to a friend. It was subsequently converted to and undercounter and used another 5 years when the pump bearings finally went bad (you should hear how loud it gets!)

I found a 1970 portable dishwasher at a sale that they wouldn't sell to me ("it goes with the house", a common reply at sales) but as luck would have it, I found it at a thrift store two weeks later. The pre-1975 dishwashers were of a completely different pump and motor design - pump was mounted directly to the motor, mounted axially at the rear right corner under the tub and and a sump was used for water transfer. This early concept is much quieter than a belt-driven pump, it's really amazing. The WU-601 in the kitchen now was won on Ebay, never used. I painted the scratched avocado panels metallic blue in homage to the color on a few Maytag appliaces for Home Depot, the very last real color from Maytag. I insulated the hell out of that machine but it still is annoying in the next room. I've been riveted by that sound for 31 years and probably always will be.


Post# 133588 , Reply# 7   6/6/2006 at 02:34 (6,525 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
we do get hooked

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Even though I know (taken it apart often enough) intellectually that the Maytags of today have no relationship to those of my youth, there is something about the sounds these machines make which resonates very deeply in me. I fight tooth and nail with my family in the US about every "new" appliance they buy...and in the end, when they insist I buy "American" (whatever that is) I still look at the Maytags first.
Well, looked. Now that evil Whirlpool has them in their clutches I guess that was that.
Does anyone remember the sound the carbon bearings below the macerator used to make in the Kenmores from the 70's? And that whump...pause...whoosh from the separate drain pumps?
That's a beautiful paint job - is that a tru-blu Maytag enamel you found or did you have to mix it yourself? Hard to tell on a monitor, but it looks very close to the Maytag blue as I remember it...


Post# 133602 , Reply# 8   6/6/2006 at 05:47 (6,525 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
I've been riveted by that sound for 31 years and probabl

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I like the pushbuttons on your Maytag. Very nice unit. Maybe some interior shots?


Post# 133909 , Reply# 9   6/6/2006 at 22:58 (6,524 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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Kelly

You are right, the fact that this one is almost 20 years old, could have something to do with the lack of a great wash for ME.

Also, it is funny how people can say the exact opposite opinions on the same appliance! LOL

I agree, the sounds of the water whipping around in the maytag are mezmerising.....

Sometimes, i think my lack of the best washes, is because of the small amount of detergent i use (because of having soft water) I probably only use 3 tbls.

If i use too much detergent in my KA, I get suds leftover at the end of the cycle


Post# 133916 , Reply# 10   6/6/2006 at 23:24 (6,524 days old) by agiflow ()        

Maytags best effort couldn't stand up to a WP dw with a powerclean module..huh..huh..(ducking and running fast)

Post# 134039 , Reply# 11   6/7/2006 at 13:19 (6,524 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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agiflow,

I 2nd that


Post# 134046 , Reply# 12   6/7/2006 at 13:58 (6,524 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
WP Powerclean...

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...maybe on the plates, but you'll have to re-wash (or pre-rinse) the flatware if it goes in the door!



Post# 134054 , Reply# 13   6/7/2006 at 14:18 (6,524 days old) by agiflow ()        

Actually my machine does a pretty good job on the flatware....though probably not as well as a basket on the lower rack..but i guess that is the price for increase capacity..especially with a tower in the way.

Post# 134059 , Reply# 14   6/7/2006 at 14:26 (6,524 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
WP Powerclean

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I had a powerclean portable. I loved it. If you loaded plates in front of the door the silverware would clean fine. But if you put pots or bowls in front the silverware didn't wash well.
Peter


Post# 134088 , Reply# 15   6/7/2006 at 16:05 (6,524 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Our first dishwasher

was a Maytag WC400, from 1973. Built like a tank, was an excellent cleaner, ran for YEARS.

I only wish that enzyme dishwasher detergents existed then.

I loved, loved, loved the racking pattern, I still think it made a lot of sense. Never took a dirty glass out of it after a cycle.


Of course, most of us dream of MIB appliances, and my dream is a MIB WC400.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 134112 , Reply# 16   6/7/2006 at 17:17 (6,524 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Pretty please with sugar and a cherry on top.

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OK Greg, boy.

LOVE your Maytag tour-k-waz DW.

Methinks that I need to not only see the racks and pleasure nozzle, but perhaps a short-video on YouTube to hear this puppy.




Post# 134184 , Reply# 17   6/7/2006 at 21:17 (6,523 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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WP Powercrean

We had one of these growing up, I remember the silverware issue-with the basket on door. We use to put the basket in the rack and that solved the dirty silverware problem. I think a larger flatware basket placed in the rack would probably have been the best setup.

Also I remember not being able to place glasses in the four corners of the upper rack, otherwise they'd have plenty of crud blown inside them.........Was there ever a DW that didn't have the problem with taller glasses in the corners???

Although, I dont remember the Whirlpool ever leaving dried oatmeal or potatoes, or leafy particles leftover on anything!!!

and I miss that loud "snorting" sound as the Whirlpool drained the last amount of water out. My KA does this too, but not nearly to the extent of the WP.


GOOD THREAD by the way.........right up my alley,,,,,NO ONE could ever load that WP the way I could!!!!!!!,,,,Grandma was on septic and taught me to pack er full, course she packed rinsed dishes,,,,,,but now that I'm a big kid now.....I KNOW BETTER!!!!!LOL


Post# 134295 , Reply# 18   6/8/2006 at 07:39 (6,523 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

I had Maytag dishwasher like that in my house in New York City. I left it there when I sold the house in 1998. Yes, it does take getting used to loading dishes on the top rack but at least everything fit great. I currently have a Kenmore and after loading the dishes in the bottom rack, the spray arm on the top rack is blocked from moving by the dishes on the lower rack.

Ross


Post# 134349 , Reply# 19   6/8/2006 at 11:21 (6,523 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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Did you check to make sure the top rack was NOT adjustable?

Post# 134501 , Reply# 20   6/8/2006 at 20:25 (6,522 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes, the top rack is adjustable. But I have friends here with the exact same model. They have over-sized diameter plates like Ross and even with the top rack all the way up, it still blocks the upper wash arm form turning. I had the same issue when "Bob loading" Sat. night at Ross' during the wash-in. Ross you have to tilt the dinner plates over for it to clear properly. Which I've had to do at my firends' house and did at Ross' without a prob. I wish Ironrite could post a pic of the load I did cuz he said the master was at work loading it. I had to rearrange plates 3 times to get it all in there and not have the wash arm blocked. Hold on to that dw Ross, it's the last of the true WP PowerCleans (mourn).

Post# 134570 , Reply# 21   6/9/2006 at 00:13 (6,522 days old) by agiflow ()        

I just hope they still have racks for the porcelain tub models.
Never had a dishwasher before this one..but at least that mutha let's you know what it is doin..LOL.



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