Thread Number: 66775
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Post# 894389   8/17/2016 at 18:49 (2,801 days old) by paulinroyton (B)   |   | |
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www.staber.com/... |
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Post# 894394 , Reply# 1   8/17/2016 at 19:11 (2,801 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 894400 , Reply# 2   8/17/2016 at 19:34 (2,801 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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They have been on here. And from what i've read, the early ones at least, had reliability issues. One of dozens of threads wherein Staber is the topic, or is mentioned, is linked below: (See search function on this site, enter keyword "Staber") CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK |
Post# 894418 , Reply# 3   8/17/2016 at 22:35 (2,801 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 894421 , Reply# 4   8/17/2016 at 22:58 (2,801 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 894451 , Reply# 5   8/18/2016 at 02:11 (2,801 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)   |   | |
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considering it's a horizontal-axis top loader I'm surprised more people haven't been talking about it since they aren't all that common around here |
Post# 894461 , Reply# 7   8/18/2016 at 04:51 (2,801 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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of "How it's Made" a long time ago. I remember scheduling it to record because in the description it had "washing machines" so I just had to record it. When I watched it, I was like WTH??? It is American, but I had never heard of it until that episode. So I started looking online and found Staber and reviews were very mixed - one extreme or the other.
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Post# 894464 , Reply# 8   8/18/2016 at 05:19 (2,801 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 894474 , Reply# 9   8/18/2016 at 06:53 (2,800 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Have been made here in Ohio for more than 20 years, my friend Bob Salem and I sat down with the brothers at their factory almost 15 years ago and discussed this machine and had a tour of the factory as well.
Yes there have been some design and reliability issues, however Bob and my brother Jeff have been using these washers for almost twenty years now. The washing action with five sided drum is excellent [ the drum was not built this way to save cost and in fact that all heavy SS drum is about the most costly part of this washer to build ] and there is no balancing or hi-spinning problem at all with this design, overall this washer performs very well.
My only real complaint that I have is the washer tub should be about 50% deeper front to back as it is only about 2 1/2 cubic feet in capacity, they could easily fit a bigger outer tub and drum in the cabinet but the retooling cost would be high [ I suggested this to them in our meeting 15 years ago ]
My only other real gripe with them is they failed to set up service companies for their machines saying that their machines were so simple to fix that customers would fix their own machines, this was their biggest down fall, most people that buy a expensive machine DO NOT want to fix it them selves. So when service problems occurred many customers became disenchanted and had to give up on these cool washers. [ We [ Alco Appliance ] offered to run service calls for them in the DC Area over 20 years ago and they said that it would be completely unnecessary to have a service company. ]
My Brother Jeff will have his Staber on display and running at the Wash-In event on Friday evening.
John L. |
Post# 894479 , Reply# 10   8/18/2016 at 07:27 (2,800 days old) by Sbond22 (Grove City, Fl. USA)   |   | |
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Post# 894482 , Reply# 11   8/18/2016 at 08:09 (2,800 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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My biggest gripe is that the one I saw went from wash into rinse without a spin and in any washer you need to extract the suds and soil before you start rinsing. |
Post# 894483 , Reply# 12   8/18/2016 at 08:16 (2,800 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 894500 , Reply# 13   8/18/2016 at 09:33 (2,800 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The small drum in relation to the large outer cabinet was the first thing I noticed many years ago. The inner drum should be replaced by a circular one with baffles, the one they use is less efficient than a circular one because there is too much space between the inner and the outer drum. A spin right after the was would be an improvement, just like a higher spinspeed.
I also think their products are overpriced, but I guess they can't make them any cheaper because they don't sell too many of them. There is more information about them on the Gardenweb (Houzz). |
Post# 894516 , Reply# 14   8/18/2016 at 10:41 (2,800 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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I got to play with it during the Oct 2010 wash-in. I thought it was odd there were no "baffles" or paddles in the tub, but it didn't seem to effect the wash action. PLUS baffles would make the already small capacity, even smaller.
I agree with Tom, I didn't like how it would only drain then refill (no spin) after the main wash (like Maytag Neptunes). Also the spin speed didn't seem to be very high (maybe 650 rpm?). I also didn't like you HAD to use liquid detergent (I prefer powder).
I just looked at their website. It shows capacity is 2 cu ft (or 16 to 18 lbs of clothes?!?!?!) Wow that is quite a claim!
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Post# 894520 , Reply# 15   8/18/2016 at 10:48 (2,800 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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You can put powder on top of the clothes before you close the drum. Many people do that overhere with H-axis toploaders. With a machine with baffles (European H-axis toploaders have them) you can also turn the drum so one of the baffles is on top and put the detergent in the hole of one of the baffles. I used to do that with my Philips.
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Post# 894899 , Reply# 16   8/21/2016 at 11:02 (2,797 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Think reason we don't see anyone rushing to introduce top loading H-Axis washers is simply related to capacity.
Americans in general have pushed for larger "front loaders" than the standard 5kg capacity found in Europe. You may be able to get an H-axis top loader up to 6kg or 7kg, but something to equal the capacity of a SQ or any of the larger front loaders could be a challenge. From the group archives: www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... Have had a soft spot for top loading H-axis washers ever since using one in Paris, France many years ago. They seem the most logical choice for small living quarters, which IIRC is one reason why they sell or sold very well in that country. |
Post# 894937 , Reply# 18   8/21/2016 at 15:15 (2,797 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA)   |   | |
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Here's a video produced by Staber that I posted on Youtube some time ago. CLICK HERE TO GO TO jeff_adelphi's LINK |
Post# 895004 , Reply# 20   8/22/2016 at 01:28 (2,797 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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