Thread Number: 67384
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Reviewed.com slams SQ dryer... |
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Post# 901052   9/29/2016 at 19:08 (2,764 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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as repectfully as they could; but they basically called it an expensive turd that might last a long time. I have one (ahem, an SQ dryer) and somewhat agree. No excuse at this price for the mediocre dryness sensor and utilitarian feel. That said I didn't pay near MSRP so I can live with myself. This machine is a match for the TL SQ more than the FL model imo. The FL SQ puts a smile on my face, the dryer not so much. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK This post was last edited 09/29/2016 at 19:42 |
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Post# 901082 , Reply# 1   9/29/2016 at 23:25 (2,764 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Post# 901087 , Reply# 2   9/30/2016 at 00:03 (2,764 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 901088 , Reply# 3   9/30/2016 at 00:39 (2,764 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 901096 , Reply# 4   9/30/2016 at 01:19 (2,764 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 901120 , Reply# 6   9/30/2016 at 06:40 (2,764 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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I have ALWAYS thought and still think that Whirlpool made dryers with the lint screen on top are the absolute BEST dryers ever made!! They still are. |
Post# 901186 , Reply# 7   9/30/2016 at 10:43 (2,764 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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I've used every brand of Dryer thus far and the SQ dryers I've used in apartments/college dorms etc, were pretty much the worst.
VERY hot, yet left collars and socks damp. And left clothes smelling weird, erasing the pleasant scent of my softener, possibly due to the weird smelling galvanized steel drum. I'll take a Maytag, Whirlpool or even GE dryer any day, over a SQ dryer. :) |
Post# 901204 , Reply# 8   9/30/2016 at 12:34 (2,764 days old) by glomain (tuscarawas cnty. (eastern ohio))   |   | |
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i have had the matching dryer for my S.Q. washer for about a year & could not be happier,i still have my 89 whirlpool dryer(they are both gas) & its just a tad slower.The S.Q. is a little hotter,so i just use a lower setting on temp except for towels(i use normal)& it has never run past 40 mins.So slam Speed Queen as you will,but i know, because i bought them & use them,GOOD DAY !!
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Post# 901206 , Reply# 9   9/30/2016 at 12:53 (2,764 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 901207 , Reply# 10   9/30/2016 at 13:02 (2,764 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 901275 , Reply# 11   9/30/2016 at 18:42 (2,763 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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I'm surprised that such a small load ran for 90 minutes in their test (they say most dryers do this load in almost half the time). Apparently it continued to tumble long after the laundry was ready. Very surprising considering this model has electronic moisture sensors. CR hasn't tested this model, but they have tested two other SQ electronic dryers and they do far better in CR's tests than the electro-mechanical model with only thermostatic moisture sensing.
I think the lint filter is a matter of personal preference. I personally prefer the SQ filter setup. But others don't. |
Post# 901321 , Reply# 14   10/1/2016 at 05:54 (2,763 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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While I live the way Whirlpool made dryers perform, I agree, the line filter I dislike. It holds lots of lint, and its easy to clean, but when you pull it out the line goes everywhere. I always keep a lint roller on hand when using my Maytag (Whirlpool) dryer.
Also people are correct about Speed Queen getting hot, but there is more to that. Temperature is not only the function of the thermostat, but also the moisture in the clothes. On many dryers (like Whirlpool) when vented properly the heater never shuts off for the first 15-20 minutes when drying a large load of clothes even on the delicate setting. The internal moisture keeps the temps down, and when the moisture drops the temp goes up and the thermostat starts to cycle more and more each time. The threshold at which it opens is determined by the user settings/cycle. This is the basic theory of operation behind none electronic auto-dry. The timer does not move until the thermostat is "satisfied", and the more often it gets satisfied and the longer it stays satisfied the faster the dryer shuts off. Naturally (as a result) lower temp setting require more time on the dial (ie, more dry for delicate where less dry works for high heat) In fact if one gauges loadsize x moisture content in relation to time, it is possible to obtain delicate temps with a single knob-high heat only dryer. With that said I would argue two possible faults in CR testing: 1. Setting the dryer to something other than less dry 2. Not selecting delicate or permanent press. How they vented the dryer was not mentioned, but Id guess (hoping) nothing unusual. I think Speed Queen choose the worst case scenario when programming the controls out of fear of consumer backlash, but that can easily be mitigated with less "vigorous" settings. I know people will argue you don't have to turn down the temps with Whirlpool and genuine Maytags but I disagree from my experience. Both Whirlpool, Maytag and even some GE dryers get to hot for my liking, so I select the medium (or delicate) for most items when present. Whirlpool and Maytag to not drop a heater coil from that start, so not that much time is lost using lower temps. |
Post# 901347 , Reply# 16   10/1/2016 at 08:43 (2,763 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 901360 , Reply# 17   10/1/2016 at 11:07 (2,763 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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I find the Whirlpool top mount lint filters to be the cleanest filters of any dryer. Simply pull the filter AFTER the dryer is running and the blower will exhaust the fine dust out the duct. I empty the filter over the dryer (while it runs and the cover is open) and any dust disappears.
The tiny little in-drum filters don't hold as much, and I contend they are messier to remove and clean since you don't have the dryer to act as a vacuum. |
Post# 901489 , Reply# 19   10/2/2016 at 10:22 (2,762 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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no matter what they say, these are the same geniuses that put liquid laundry detergent in the fabric softener dispenser when testing the SQ washer. I wouldn't give 2 cents for their advice. Mike |
Post# 901550 , Reply# 20   10/2/2016 at 19:09 (2,761 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 901560 , Reply# 21   10/2/2016 at 20:26 (2,761 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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My hunch with the detergent/softener confusion is that the people that do the reviews and the people that shoot the video are likely different groups. Clearly anyone that is attempting to review the machine wouldn't confuse this, but someone that just needs the "shot" to complete the video may not pay attention.
Besides it isn't like reviewed.com has said anything drastically out of the realm of that we all know to be true. People that have personal bias towards anything will always be offended when a review doesn't agree, even if the review is basically correct. |
Post# 901681 , Reply# 22   10/3/2016 at 23:09 (2,760 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 901709 , Reply# 24   10/4/2016 at 07:29 (2,760 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Thermostatic dryness control, slow stroke long arc agitators, no sudslock control regime in their FLs, sturdy construction and so on.
Let`s face it, apart from the new electronic control panels the whole brand Speed Queen just screams 1950s technology. And that is for the good and the bad! I find them adorable for their very succesful attempt to celebrate technology from the past, but also have somewhat lowered expectations whenever using a Speed Queen. |
Post# 901711 , Reply# 25   10/4/2016 at 07:47 (2,760 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Work just fine, after selling a few hundred and working on a few hundred more I have yet to have a single complaint from the owners of them about performance. We are also selling a lot of the new SQ stack laundry and the only comments I get is how much better they work than their older machines.
A good example was a customer on Capital Hill a few months ago that still had a 1975 MT HOH gas dryer that the motor sized in. I suggested a new SQ gas dryer to which they agreed. About a month after we installed the new dryer we got both a call and a letter about how wonderful the new dryer was, they could not believe how fast it dried and how cool and wrinkle free the clothing comes out.
The current SQs are not 50s technology in any sense of the word except maybe for the fact they can actually be repaired easily when needed and that they could actually last 50 years.
For folks here that like to get different washers and dryers every few years go for the glitzy new stuff, but we have very few customers that ever want to buy another new washer or dryer again if they don't have to.
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Post# 901714 , Reply# 26   10/4/2016 at 08:25 (2,760 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Well said John. Mike |
Post# 901734 , Reply# 27   10/4/2016 at 10:29 (2,760 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 901739 , Reply# 28   10/4/2016 at 10:51 (2,760 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 901746 , Reply# 29   10/4/2016 at 11:36 (2,760 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Reviewed's comments (and mine) are based on a, "for what you pay" consideration. It certainly does the fumdamental job for us, and combo52 nailed my own feeling after i installed the machines, "phew, ready to not go through all that again for DECADES..." something which you are going to have to pay extra for from any company, for any product, which can give one such a feeling of confidence. The question is, in regards to the SQ dryer, do the money numbers vs total ownership experience hold up? It is a fair question and not a slam dunk...for me at least. My mother being old school wanted a new matched pair...i might have opted for a different dryer. Even the salesman didn't try to defend the dryer by suggesting a Whirl-tag (like Reviewed.com does) when i questioned him about it. But then a now discontiued SQ model was found in the warehouse and sold to me at a sizable discount so we were happy...and still are. My wife has figured out the exact timer setting that works for her. I may go that route too as the automatic setting is not able to dial in (we have and wanted one with knobs, not the touchscreen version) enough retained moisture for me, at least on the normal heat setting. Before doing that i will experiment with the cooler heat selection options, (delicate and PP to be specific) as recomended in earlier posts. This post was last edited 10/04/2016 at 14:47 |