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Frigidaire Compact 30 Electric Range in Turquoise (Mpls/St Paul)
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Post# 901541   10/2/2016 at 17:47 (2,761 days old) by woomwoomwoom (Minneapolis)        

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I saw a Craigslist ad for a vintage Frigidaire range for sale here in the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro. I had designs on it myself at first, but unfortunately my wife turned up her nose upon learning that it was electric rather than gas....sigh. It is awfully pretty.





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Post# 901558 , Reply# 1   10/2/2016 at 20:02 (2,761 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I can't remember seeing one of these "control tower" ranges.  It's in nice shape for its age, and many here say that as far as electric goes, the Frigidaire burners perform the best.


Post# 901663 , Reply# 2   10/3/2016 at 20:23 (2,760 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Frigidaire Compact 30 Turquoise Drop In Range

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We had this exact range, it was installed in our 1965 house in W Va. The oven worked great for baking, broiling was very hot, as there is no way to turn down the intensity of the heat on a one dial FD range.

 

The FD Mono-tube burners were the worst thing about this range, they were always slightly warped, about your best bet cooking on it was to find a cheap pan that would warp like the burners. I also cooked on two other FD ranges and between the lousy infinite heat controls and burners that could be perfectly flat when cool but always warped when heated you could sure see how some users grew to hate electric range tops.

 

As well built as FD ranges were I would never want one as an everyday range, if had to have one I would replace all the infinite switches with Robershaw controls and thin-tube Chromalox elements.


Post# 901686 , Reply# 3   10/3/2016 at 23:41 (2,760 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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John, then you like a Canadian Frigidaire range from 1967 to 1970!

 

They all had Robertshaw infinite switches (that includes the 1967-70 Compact 30!) and the cheaper RA-37L "Deluxe Thrifty 30" free-standing model even had Chromalox burners (the Custom Deluxe, Imperial, Cuisine and Compact 30 models still had Radiantubes). 

 

All free-standing 30" models had broil-bake selectors (and 120 volts to the broil element for baking) or a broiler grill control.

 

But, they weren't self-cleaning...

 

I have to say I wouldn't trade one of these Canadian ranges for my 1967 US Custom Imperial range which is the one I currently use.  

 

1967 Frigidaire cooking appliances folder

 

1967 Frigidaire cooking appliances folder

 

Note that the dials have reversed "HI" and "SIM" setting on ranges with the Robertshaw switches. 

1970 Frigidaire RA-39L

 

 

Compare with the previous year's version with the King Seeley switches.

FRIGIDAIRE RJ-39K

 

The broil-bake selector with the thermostatic broil on the Imperial and cheaper models. 

1970 Frigidaire RA-39L

 

 Here are pics of the 1967-70 Deluxe models with the Chromalox burners, the last two pics show the Frigidaire part numbers for the Chromalox burners and for the Robertshaw infinite switches (designated by the numbers that begin by "341"). 


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Post# 901689 , Reply# 4   10/4/2016 at 00:52 (2,760 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
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Shows how much I know about the Radiantube burners.  I thought the fans of electric really liked their responsiveness.

 

I've had gas stoves everywhere I've lived since I moved out of my parents' house in the '70s, and would have a hard time dealing with electric anymore.


Post# 901707 , Reply# 5   10/4/2016 at 07:13 (2,759 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Frigidaire Ranges

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Wow Phil , as always thanks for all the information, I always learn so much from all your research.

 

Years ago we used to do a lot of canning in our W Va house and we have a 1965 GE cook-top with the controls in the hood a 65 40" CI FD range to can on. I would often have four pressure caners going at the same time and the GE even with its 5 heat PB controls was far easier to get the right heat on for a pressure caner than the FD range. Because of the uneven burners on the FD and the wonky INF switches you had to use very different heat setting to get the same results on the FD range.

 

I have done about four batches of caning here at home the last few weeks and I actually used the Gas Caloric out on the screened porch. It is nice to leave all the heat outside, but boy is it slow to get a big caner up to temperature.

 

When Jason and I caned 80+ jars of green beans the other weekend at the warehouse we both looked at the Gas Caloric range there and said no-way did we want all that heat and odor in the kitchen.


Post# 901723 , Reply# 6   10/4/2016 at 09:10 (2,759 days old) by mikael3 (Atlanta)        

My Frigidaire is not infinite switch, and I mostly like it that way.  I know what I’m getting with each setting.

 

The issue of warping has come up before, and I learned a lot about it here.  I had always noticed random red hot-spots on the radiantubes, and I wondered why they moved around, until someone here (probably Mr. Lefever) explained that the red is where the element is not making contact with the pan—i.e. where the element is warped.  I remember the same problem on my aunt’s 1963 model, which I learned to cook on long ago.

 

Still, all in all, I am very happy with those heavy elements.  I like the way they look, for one thing.  Appearance is not a great endorsement for a daily driver, but I do have to look at the thing every day!!  But I also like the way they cook, probably because I’m used to them.

 

The gas vs electric competition will go on for eternity.  My own experience is that they each excel at certain applications, and I would have both if my kitchen were big enough.  Nothing, oh nothing, brings water to a boil faster than a good electric coil (maybe induction, but I’m not yet convinced).  And I like the way the non-infinite switches give you a specific heat every time.  Gas, though, is fully under your control and moves quickly from high to low.  And of course, you can cook things like chiles right over the flame.

 

I prefer an electric oven, and I could go on an on about that.  High-end gas units may be fine, but low-end units are simply frightening.  Some of my worst kitchen memories involve baking in a gas oven, and I have several horror stories of ruined food that I was paid to prepare.  It’s a personal bias, but I will never bake in a gas oven again.

 

The nail in the coffin on gas as a daily driver, though, is that we live in Atlanta, and the difference in kitchen heat between gas and electric is probably 10° or more around the stove.  I’m having none of that in our 6-month-long summers!!


Post# 901774 , Reply# 7   10/4/2016 at 16:25 (2,759 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Phil, as I mentioned before on here, the Canadian '67 - '70 models look much more like the US '62 - '63 models, with the added large window. My Aunt Eloise had one from the early 60's that looks almost like these, but with a plain door. I guess they didn't make enough in Canada to justify the retooling like they did in the US for '64 and later.

Post# 901792 , Reply# 8   10/4/2016 at 20:43 (2,759 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
A dissenter...

I still like Radiantubes MUCH better than any other units,They spread the heat evenly , I have used them all, I do like 5 or 7 heat selection rather than infinite units,I agree with John that as infinite switches age they get to where you are constantly fiddling with the knob.

Post# 901812 , Reply# 9   10/4/2016 at 23:30 (2,759 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Tom

I don't know why they didn't retool the ranges in Canada as it was done in the US for 1964 but the switch from almost US clones to the models with the specific to Canada glass control panel happened in mid-1962 (or late 1961, as there were two series identified as being 1962 models). Most of the mid-1962 and later models had a broil/bake selector and Robertshaw-Lux Time timers instead of the GE or International Register timers that Frigidaire used on the US and most previous Canadian models. The mandatory fuse panel was moved from behind the storage drawer to below the control panel at the same time.

The less expensive models from the Deluxe series and the apartment-sized ranges had 7 heat switches and 4 wire Chromalox burners instead of the KS infinite switches and two-wire Radiantubes the other models had. In 1967 when all models went with Robertshaw infinite switches, the cheaper Deluxe and apartment models still used Chromalox burners but they now were the two-wire version to go with the infinite switches. 
 
The 1966 and later models got some retooling as their door got a new larger glass and the front part of the top was now flush with the oven door:

FRIGIDAIRE RJ-39K

Note that this 1966 Custom Imperial does lack the broil/bake selector that cheaper models from that year had but it has a thermostat that controls the broil temperature without the need for a separate selector as it had two temperature ranges. The 1967 "Cuisine" model that replaced the 1966 Custom Imperial went back to a "Broiler Grill" infinite control like the early 1962 Custom Imperial had. 
This range also has the Canadian version of the "Meal Minder" that was introduced the previous year on both Canadian and US models. The Canadian version didn't have the fancy motorized thermostats but a spring-loaded thermostat that was mechanically linked to the timer. 
 
1966 FRIGIDAIRE RJ-39K


   
 
The 1965 and earlier Canadian models had the front part of their top recessed about 1/2" from the door like my early 1962 range shown here: IMG_1962
 


Post# 902015 , Reply# 10   10/6/2016 at 11:39 (2,757 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
One thing for sure

Any of them are light years ahead of the garbage produced today!

Post# 902127 , Reply# 11   10/7/2016 at 10:47 (2,756 days old) by mikael3 (Atlanta)        

For electric units, the problem isn’t just poor quality, it’s near total lack of availability.  As far as I know, there is no such thing as a high-end electric cooktop any more.  My aunt needed to replace hers, and we could only find one, single, solitary model, and it was totally cheap and flimsy.  I have my eyes open for a vintage unit, but she needs stainless and 30″ and in excellent shape, and I haven’t found that for her yet.


Post# 902187 , Reply# 12   10/7/2016 at 19:15 (2,756 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
With electric cooktops

You have 2 choices...glass top or very cheap plug in units that will not hold up under any normal use..Gone are the days of Calrods with plenty of support under them, or Radiantubes, like them or not, they will stand up to hard use and last practically forever, or the Westinghouse Corox units , also a almost lifetime unit, and who can forget the good old Chromalox units....They should be ashamed for the garbage they put out today..Use a big canner on any of the new units and it will break it down in a season!

Post# 902402 , Reply# 13   10/9/2016 at 16:55 (2,754 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Here are pictures showing details of Canadian Compact 30 from 1968 (BC-30N) that I just took yesterday.

 

1: The oven liner with black porcelain

2: The divided pilot light for left and right burners that displays "L" and "R" rather than "Surface".

3: The knobs with reversed "high" and "Sim" positions and Robertshaw infinite switches. 

4: Canadian clock that looks similar to the ones some later (mid-1970s) US models used but with the knobs reversed. 

 


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