Thread Number: 67943
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Sears suppliers getting concerned |
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Post# 906525   11/11/2016 at 12:08 (2,721 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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End might be closer than we think. CLICK HERE TO GO TO washman's LINK |
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Post# 906527 , Reply# 1   11/11/2016 at 12:29 (2,721 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 906552 , Reply# 2   11/11/2016 at 15:43 (2,721 days old) by cycla-fabric (New Jersey (Northern))   |   | |
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Post# 906554 , Reply# 3   11/11/2016 at 15:47 (2,721 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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had a patriotic Veterans day Kenmore top load washer/dryer set. The consoles are done up like American flags. Look to be by Whirlpool. Collectors items? $379 each. |
Post# 906556 , Reply# 5   11/11/2016 at 15:55 (2,721 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 908040 , Reply# 8   11/22/2016 at 12:06 (2,710 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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There was maybe five customers in the entire store. Odd for a K-Mart, there were quite a few employees running around stocking and rearranging.
One thing of notice, the pharmacy is gone, and the electronics section is gone save for a few display TVs that had not sold. Lots and lots of stuff in the isles to where you could hardly get the cart through.
I could hear the dinosaur's death rattle.
Prediction to Watch: My brother was telling me from inside information that Wal-Mart will be closing quite a few stores after the new year. With online so dominate any more there is just not the volume of foot traffic to justify the brick and mortar stores that are so expensive to keep inventory, stock, and staff. Not to mention maintenance, and utility costs.
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Post# 909255 , Reply# 9   12/1/2016 at 14:32 (2,701 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 909562 , Reply# 11   12/4/2016 at 07:46 (2,698 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Not looking good. Not at all. CLICK HERE TO GO TO washman's LINK |
Post# 909582 , Reply# 12   12/4/2016 at 11:40 (2,698 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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One thing that has always struck me about the outlet stores, the ones around here (we don't even have a "regular" Sears anymore) is how beat up the merchandise is. All of the appliances have dents and scratches, some of them severe. It seems as if they are losing a lot of money by damaging merchandise before it ever reaches the consumer - what is going on in their warehouses?
It's not just Sears, I bought a Whirlpool range hood from Lowe's for remodeling mom's kitchen and when I took it out of the box, it looked as if someone had jumped on it - and it wasn't me! I was able to return it, but the girl at the return desk told me when I get the new one, to be sure to open it before I leave to be sure it is not damaged. I guess I have to do that with everything now. |
Post# 910324 , Reply# 16   12/9/2016 at 10:52 (2,693 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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They began treating their employees like dirt and, surprise, surprise, they're going down the same road as Circuit City. Our local K-Mart has a young (cute, too) manager who treats his staff well. They have discretionary powers absolutely unheard of at other K-Marts. Great sales, clean store, well-stocked and friendly. Our local Sears is a hell-hole from Calcutta in which I refuse to set a foot. Went there with friend to buy tires a few years back. They told her they don't carry parts for 'them thar' foreign cars'. Literally. Lousy management, lousy employees, dirty store - no way in Hell I'll ever buy anything from them when the K-Mart right around the corner can get me the same products in 24 hour turn-around. Oh, yeah - they go to the local distribution warehouse for their Sears' products because the local Sears store intentionally sends them damaged goods or lies and says the don't have products in inventory which they have.
Once upon a time, Sears had great products at good prices. Today, they're a mess. |
Post# 910339 , Reply# 17   12/9/2016 at 12:09 (2,693 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Like I've said for years, never put a beancounter or finance person in charge of things. I don't care if it is a simple lemon aid stand, put a numbers person in control and sooner or later it goes down the toilet. |
Post# 910383 , Reply# 22   12/9/2016 at 17:37 (2,693 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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I love the American flag the same way I love the USA with all my heart. I saw that washer at Sears a couple of nights ago and the only thing i could think was "OMFG, this is the ugliest washer I've ever seen in my whole life". I seriously think it was an insult to the Star Spangled Banner. |
Post# 910465 , Reply# 25   12/10/2016 at 10:15 (2,692 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Change asinine company policies, a local manager sure can and does make the difference between clean and pleasant and dirty and mean-spirited. An on the ball manager (as is ours here at K-Mart) can also leverage what little discretion they do have to improve sales.
I was just finishing a bid on a largish project yesterday when a good client called. Could I help her break into one of their properties? Tenants had changed the locks then left and she had to check for frozen pipes (we've warmed up, only -15 F the night before).
Now, my normal procedure is: 1) I let the client know (got a written form for it and they sign in advance) about liability, damage, etc. 2) Call the cops in advance so I don't get shot when some nosy-parker turns me in (and there's always one, even on the prairie). 3) Charge solidly for it - local lockshops charge $300, plus new locks. I don't go that high, but you're gonna pay for me to fall in through your window or whatever.
So, I get out to her and she's half-froze, 11 months pregnant with twin cows and her car won't start. I put her in my car, walk around the house, find a window unlocked and bob's your auntie.
No frozen pipes.
And, no bill. It's called customer service. Generating that intangible (and, to CFO's, unthinkable) thing called: Goodwill.
She ends the year with me happy and I end the year with a good, paying customer knowing I'll be there in a pinch.
This is what I meant about local discretion. It can't cover for a rotten company, Sears is beyond hope, but it can enhance customer loyalty - another word for profit.
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Post# 910479 , Reply# 26   12/10/2016 at 11:35 (2,692 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Good friends opened one of those Sears Hometown stores in the next city. Everything was going fine until that jerk came into power. No more commissions on anything but the top of the line items and being called on the carpet for not forcing people to buy what they did not want. Flat $25 delivery payment, even if it was 100 miles away. Constant idiotic revisions of floorplans and store layouts. Last straw was that they MUST spend $2500 for a new sign for the front of the store, all in lower case as sears felt capital letters were shouting. They pulled out and have yet to settle with Sears on the money rightfully owed them. Since they were treated so horribly, I have never set foot in a Sears store sincce.
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Post# 910565 , Reply# 28   12/10/2016 at 21:40 (2,692 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Sears here is like a ghost town. In going there tomorrow tovpick up a Frigidaire front loading washer and dryer. The Kenmores here died a horrible death from exposure to the elements and the washer no longer spins. It's frozen. The new setvwas marked down to $699. I chewed them down to $400 and free delivery.
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Post# 910575 , Reply# 29   12/10/2016 at 22:11 (2,692 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I'm trying to remember the last time I went shopping at Sears. It's been more than 10 years since I think I bought anything there (and I bought a screwdriver I couldn't find easily elsewhere). I think I've browsed the store a few times, but I end up feeling that I can do as well or better elsewhere.
This is not new. It's interesting, but my parents must have shopped at Sears at least a few times, since a washer and dryer came from there. But later on, Sears was just not part of the routine shopping experience. I think I recall my mother going there a couple of times ca. 1990. It was funny, but I remember my mother telling the clerk how great the old Kenmore washer was. And then, later, privately admitting to me she really had no interest in ever buying a new washer from Sears. |
Post# 910646 , Reply# 32   12/11/2016 at 15:19 (2,691 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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You'll probably be happier with that Kenmore, anyway, unless you had the budget for really high end European...
I lived somewhere about 10 years ago with a WP DW made probably about 1990. Older than your unit. But even though it was BOL, it was was pretty decent. It didn't have the solid build you get from older dishwashers, but it was far less flimsy feeling than what's at Home Depot now. And it washed well. No washing dishes in the sink before washing them in the DW. And I got these results with a "Light" wash setting. (This merely skipped one wash period with detergent at the start.) People cringed at this...but the light wash did the job as far as I could tell. |
Post# 910741 , Reply# 33   12/12/2016 at 07:27 (2,690 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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mattered who was the ceo of Sears holdings for the past 8 years. Those running it are just biding their time, and will take what is left and retire. I knew one of the top K Mart accountants. He told me it would go this way. |
Post# 912776 , Reply# 34   12/27/2016 at 17:53 (2,675 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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A green bird told me that he heard a friend of a friend of a friend talking about a company that sold sears 200 units of each model, including spin dryers, mini washing machines, a clothes dryer that hangs on a door and even a super small hand cranked washing machine. Sears was supposed to pay yesterday but... :( |
Post# 912802 , Reply# 36   12/27/2016 at 22:45 (2,675 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)   |   | |
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I read that some suppliers will not sell to Sears, others supply them on a cash on delivery basis only. |
Post# 912980 , Reply# 37   12/29/2016 at 08:23 (2,673 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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not if but when it shuts down for good. CLICK HERE TO GO TO washman's LINK |
Post# 913080 , Reply# 41   12/30/2016 at 00:18 (2,672 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Nice! So now Lampert can collect on all the interest from those loans.
What a smart guy. There is literally no reason for me to set foot in a Sears today. The closest thing to how great Sesrs was when I was a kid (we're talking the mid 90s) is Ace hardware. Sans the appliances. I MAY check out a Penneys still. Maybe. And they HAVE appliances now! But the last time I was in a Sears a few years ago, they denied the replacement of a broken craftsman tool I had because they said it was not lifetime guarantee! I thought that was the whole point of craftsman tools. And while i was there browsing, I noticed that their selection on lots of things was less than half of what I remember it being. And most of it was junk anyway. Messy. Disarray. Surly employees. Really no point ever going back. Lampert can shove Sears up his hooha and take it with him on his next vacation in Galt's Gulch. |
Post# 913141 , Reply# 42   12/30/2016 at 11:11 (2,672 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 913170 , Reply# 43   12/30/2016 at 15:22 (2,672 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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That store in Tulsa is kind of cool--it's a stand-alone store in their midtown area from about 1949 so it's got the swoopy SEARS on it--- CLICK HERE TO GO TO jamiel's LINK |
Post# 913256 , Reply# 44   12/31/2016 at 03:19 (2,671 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Sears Craftsman-seems like they are getting stiff competition from Lowes "kobalt"-don't know what the store brand for HD is-and other toolmakers. |
Post# 913317 , Reply# 45   12/31/2016 at 13:28 (2,671 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Home Depot's brands are Husky and Rigid.
They're very good for what they are. Mostly Chinese but some US made stuff. Rigid is a partnership with Emerson, which I really like. Very durable and well performing stuff. Great motors. Even if they're foreign sources, much of the stuff is to Emerson standards. |
Post# 913331 , Reply# 46   12/31/2016 at 15:42 (2,671 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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