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Thread Number: 68006
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New dishwasher choice / GE or Maytag? |
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Post# 907155 11/15/2016 at 19:42 (2,711 days old) by paulg  (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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Sorry for the lack of detail. I'll make this question VERY generic.
My Mother-In-Law is replacing her dishwasher. ( I think it is a 10 year old Maytag ). They live in rural Illinois. Local appliance dealer is showing her GE and Maytag. She wants a stainless-steel interior. She likes the adjustable racks on the GE. The GE is model is perhaps S650S or perhaps F570S . Maytag model unknown. To those people who have their finger on the pulse of modern dishwashers selling today... What would you choose - generically speaking.. GE or Maytag? I think reliability is the key thing here. The old Maytag lasted ten years but didn't thrill her overall. Features that are more deluxe are probably second. Thanks for any comments. | ||
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Post# 907190 , Reply# 1 11/15/2016 at 23:25 (2,711 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Major drawback | ||
| Post# 907218 , Reply# 2 11/16/2016 at 06:15 (2,711 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Modern Maytgas are Whirlpool's. I happen to like my modern GE just fine. It has outlasted two other family member's Bosch's. | ||
| Post# 907220 , Reply# 3 11/16/2016 at 06:46 (2,711 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Post# 907235 , Reply# 4 11/16/2016 at 09:38 (2,711 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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I like GE.
I got 3 GE Artistry Series dishwashers for my tenants. They use GE's latest mechanism, but have plastic tanks. Thus far, my tenants like them. I lived with one for a year and found the performance to be good and the noise to be minimal. The build quality was definitely lacking, but all dishwashers seem to be like that when you're used to Kitchen Aid by Hobart.
The thing I like about the GE design as opposed to the Whirlpool/Maytag designs at the time is that the control buttons act directly on the control unit as opposed to being part of a membrane connected to the control unit via a ribbon cable. When I worked in the appliance parts store, I learned that the controls are expensive, and the membranes are also expensive. Determining if one or the other had failed is difficult By eliminating one of those parts, I think the GE would be easier to diagnose and repair in the future. Just my 2 cents. | ||
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Post# 907254 , Reply# 5 11/16/2016 at 11:45 (2,710 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Best new dishwasher for reliability and for the money
Maytag is definitely a better choice than General Electric, the GE's as others have mentioned have a terrible build quality.
The GE's are very flimsy and have terrible racks that just don't accommodate things or hold things well. If they had a Maytag that was 10 years old it was likely the old real Maytag tall tub which was never a great dishwasher. | ||
| Post# 907272 , Reply# 6 11/16/2016 at 14:06 (2,710 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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Maytag, its better in every way compared to the GE. GE's dishwashers i notice get hit for not drying good. | ||
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Post# 907273 , Reply# 7 11/16/2016 at 14:18 (2,710 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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If you are open for a Maytag, you *could* shop arround for Whirlpool and Kenmore too. They have a different wash system, but quality wise run on the same level as they all are WP corp products. | ||
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Post# 907290 , Reply# 8 11/16/2016 at 16:08 (2,710 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Maytag for sure: | ||
| Post# 907299 , Reply# 9 11/16/2016 at 17:04 (2,710 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
in term of reliabilaty and if you went a quiet dishwasher a high end kenmore whirlpool or bosch would do the job
www.sears.ca/en/built-in/stainles... and a new feature if you have hard water is some models have a built in water softner CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pierreandreply4's LINK | ||
| Post# 907306 , Reply# 10 11/16/2016 at 18:35 (2,710 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
Maytag
I'll give a nod to the Maytag.
I have the current GE system in my dishwasher, and it's quite good. And the quality is FINE. But...it had a filter that needs cleaning. For elderly people (or anyone who doesn't know machines period), I'd recommend the Maytag because it has a more traditional grinder and sealed, self-cleaning filter that will be fully maintenance free. GE has also tweaked their drying ability. But I will endorse the Maytag's upper rack over the GE's. Both machines clean very well when loaded properly and with high quality soap. Good luck. | ||
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Post# 907363 , Reply# 12 11/17/2016 at 07:21 (2,710 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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Thanks / and a bit more info
You all hit on a few key points.
Indeed, these people are elderly, but sharp minded. They can handle a dishwasher just fine, but if it is a "fussy" dishwasher, it won't be liked much in the long run. I believe the old dishwasher is a Maytag tall-tub about ten years old or perhaps more. A previous comment that this dishwasher was not great really fit the bill. Right now it "operates" but the racks are literally falling apart. The machine was not used too hard. Thanks for the great input. Much obliged to all. | ||
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Post# 907471 , Reply# 13 11/18/2016 at 07:39 (2,709 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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Not that I would recommend a Miele for elders in this case
But a co-worker mentioned this...
She owns a Miele dishwasher. Hates it. It apparently monitors everything, then hiccups every six months requiring a service call. She could not completely describe what the issue is, other than it is a filter of some sort. When she asked the repairman about how to stop the machine from requiring service every six months, he shrugged and suggested she just has to live with it. Do you know what she is talking about? My Kitchenaid is 10 years old and has had to be repaired seven times. Next time it breaks it goes to the curb. I was thinking about Miele. However if it is a "fussy" machine that monitors everything and throws fits, maybe it is not something I want. Comments on Miele? | ||
| Post# 907482 , Reply# 15 11/18/2016 at 09:23 (2,709 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
Checkd out both | ||
| Post# 907486 , Reply# 16 11/18/2016 at 09:34 (2,709 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
Congrats | ||
| Post# 907526 , Reply# 17 11/18/2016 at 14:28 (2,708 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Okay Harley and Everyone Else Here are the pics of my new machine. $978.84, installed by yours truly.
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| Post# 907534 , Reply# 18 11/18/2016 at 15:07 (2,708 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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| Post# 907594 , Reply# 19 11/19/2016 at 08:18 (2,708 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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| Post# 907605 , Reply# 20 11/19/2016 at 09:06 (2,708 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Miele Service | ||
| Post# 907618 , Reply# 21 11/19/2016 at 10:58 (2,707 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Post# 907629 , Reply# 22 11/19/2016 at 11:51 (2,707 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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That's a beautiful KitchenAid, Steve, and glad to hear it's a strong performer. My next dishwasher will definitely be a KA. My TOL GE cleans well, but as John L. has mentioned, the racking/tine spacing leaves something to be desired.
I was in the local KA dealership recently to check out their new mock kitchen set-up. I was admiring the windowed KA in the display and overheard a woman say, "I don't think I'd like my oven so close to the sink." Never occurred to me before; it does look a bit like an oven. | ||
| Post# 907633 , Reply# 23 11/19/2016 at 12:22 (2,707 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
I have to endorse the Maytag as well. If my in-laws have the MDB4949, who have terrible loading habits, who refuse to use anything but cheap store brand liquid gel detergent, and who refuse to use the separator slots in the silverware basket where everything is just thrown in business side down, all clumped into two or three chambers while the other three are completely empty, and THEY still love it and say it cleans wonderfully, then it would be a perfect machine for anyone who would prefer a straight-forward, no fuss dishwasher. It also has a very nice build, almost as nice as the WP WDT920, though I still feel mine beats it in the weight and smoothness of the door opening and closing and latching. I think theirs may also be scrubbing the inner cabinet because it wasn't installed by someone as particular as I would have been, but again, they don't seem to care so why should I, lol. I just have to check the rinse aid dispenser now and then because they also refuse to care about it, nor will they listen to me that it's absolutely necessary for good rinsing and drying. *sigh...*
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| Post# 907648 , Reply# 24 11/19/2016 at 15:59 (2,707 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Oven Door LOL, yes it could be mistaken for that, but who has a stainless steele oven that is only 24" wide? Reminds me of KitchenAid's under the cabinet wine or beer cooler.
It truly is a nice machine. Could have gone with the higher end model, but decided that $1900.00 for a dishwasher to have a different spray arm pattern and the third utensil rack was not worth it for me. A few more options on the higher model were available as well. This one is perfect for what has to be accomplished in this household.
Thanks for the nice comments. I am stealing Paul's original thread. Maybe consider a KitchenAid Paul????? | ||
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Post# 907649 , Reply# 25 11/19/2016 at 16:06 (2,707 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Just checked Consumer Reports Online. Three KitchenAids (including yours) are at the top of the list, each scoring 85 (out of 100). Rated Excellent for washing, drying, and energy efficiency. The trifecta!
On topic: The Maytag MDB8969 ($650) is rated Excellent for washing and drying. They call Maytag's MDB4949 ($450) the best dishwasher under $500. Also rated Excellent for washing and drying. Both are rated only 'Good' for noise level, but by today's standards that's still relatively quiet. This post was last edited 11/19/2016 at 16:22 | ||
| Post# 907664 , Reply# 26 11/19/2016 at 19:00 (2,707 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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I've never agreed with CR's ratings on noise. The MDB4709 I had when we moved into the house a few years ago was rated poorly for noise, but it wasn't loud by any means. You could hear that it was on if standing in the kitchen but with our open floor plan we could watch TV or movies and not even realize it was still on.
The MDB4949 that the in-law has is so quiet with a full load of dishes that you'd have to have the house silenced before actually noticing it's on. I actually took some interior video of theirs not long ago that I haven't gotten the chance to upload. I'll add a link here as soon as I do. | ||
| Post# 907678 , Reply# 27 11/19/2016 at 20:06 (2,707 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
that is so cool looking | ||
| Post# 907772 , Reply# 28 11/20/2016 at 14:24 (2,706 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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| Post# 907774 , Reply# 29 11/20/2016 at 14:34 (2,706 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Nice! | ||
| Post# 907810 , Reply# 30 11/20/2016 at 18:45 (2,706 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Andrew - | ||
| Post# 907811 , Reply# 31 11/20/2016 at 18:50 (2,706 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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Noo no, haha. It's my mother-in-law's. I still have the WP WDT920. Unfortunately I didn't have the GoPro when I had the Maytag MDB4709. I used an old phone sealed in a FoodSaver bag one time but didn't get great video. The Maytag is now installed at my father-in-law's house that they're trying to sell. They needed a black dishwasher to match the other appliances in the kitchen, and offered to buy it from me, so I let it go. I have the PowerClean in one of the spare closets already and having two spare dishwashers is a bit too much for me with our current space. I loved the Voyager-Maytag aside from the tiered rack, but the new style Maytag like the one in the video seem to be just as powerful, even with using less water and having a slightly smaller pump.
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| Post# 907974 , Reply# 32 11/21/2016 at 23:31 (2,705 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Oh Ok | ||
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Post# 907996 , Reply# 33 11/22/2016 at 07:20 (2,705 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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I have dutifully advised my Mother-In-Law | ||
| Post# 908031 , Reply# 34 11/22/2016 at 10:26 (2,704 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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