Thread Number: 68160
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Lost bushing on Lower Arm Support - what to do? |
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Post# 908835 , Reply# 1   11/28/2016 at 10:17 (2,677 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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It's actually 4161073 and as you've probably seen there are a few available on eBay. I think most here will tell you not to attempt to repair but replace instead. At least that's what I would do.
There are others who could say for sure so you may want to wait for a couple more opinions.
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Post# 908847 , Reply# 3   11/28/2016 at 11:50 (2,677 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 908850 , Reply# 5   11/28/2016 at 12:09 (2,677 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I took this out of the KD16 Service Manual. You can download it here under Manuals and Literature. But it looks like the heater is heating water. It won't stop to raise the temperature anything considerable but it will help to retain the temp throughout the cycle.
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Post# 913507 , Reply# 8   1/1/2017 at 15:36 (2,643 days old) by leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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Here is the new part which has a 1 inch shaft extension and another picture showing the 1.5 inch extension on my existing wash arm support. My machine is a KDI-16. |
Post# 913520 , Reply# 9   1/1/2017 at 17:37 (2,643 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Well, Stevet or Combo would know for sure but I think the only thing that might happen is the spindle will protrude though the top of the HydroSweep a tad.
I'm no expert but it certainly look like the same structure and design. The amount of space where the water flows into the arm looks the same. I hope it works. |
Post# 913533 , Reply# 11   1/1/2017 at 19:30 (2,643 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 913765 , Reply# 14   1/3/2017 at 10:48 (2,641 days old) by leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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Does anyone have this wash arm support with a 1.5" shaft extension that I could purchase? |
Post# 913770 , Reply# 15   1/3/2017 at 11:32 (2,641 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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The KD-15 and some of the early KD-16 wash arms have a longer bearing for the wash arm support shaft. More than likely, if your original wash arm support was missing the bushing your original wash arm is probably on the way out as well, but you should be able to use your earlier wash arm on your replacement support.
Here is a picture of the early version of the wash arm with the longer bearing (picture taken from a KDS-15). Notice the center protrudes higher and the bakelite center has additional material added to support the longer bearing. |
Post# 913772 , Reply# 16   1/3/2017 at 11:34 (2,641 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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And... here's a shot of the later KD-16 through KD-20 wash arm. Notice the bakelite is flush across, with the shorter bearing.
Replacement wash arms are on eBay (PN 416484). After replacing the wash arm support and wash arm, you'll have a brand new KitchenAid!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KITCHEN-AID-DISH... |
Post# 913776 , Reply# 17   1/3/2017 at 12:45 (2,641 days old) by leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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This is extremely helpful, thank you so much! |
Post# 914091 , Reply# 18   1/5/2017 at 10:35 (2,639 days old) by leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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I see that the machine pictured is a KDS-15 but was wondering if my KDI-16 should also have the donut shaped filter screen with the large circular holes? |
Post# 914100 , Reply# 19   1/5/2017 at 11:46 (2,639 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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It will not. The sump and wash arm support (plus filter) are unique to the 15 series machines only. The 16 and 17 share the same basic sump, wash arm support and filter design.
It seems you had an oddball and possibly very early 16 with the 16/17 style wash arm support with the long 15 series shaft on the support/wash arm. Either way, if you replace the wash arm support with the later style and find yourself a good wash arm, you'll be set. It has been my experience that after 40 years of use on machine's I've seen, the original wash arms are shot.
Ben |
Post# 914281 , Reply# 23   1/6/2017 at 10:13 (2,638 days old) by Leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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I realized that my new old stock support is not perfecly flat on the bottom surface which is why it didn't fit as nicely as the original part. I installed it anyway and I'm hoping it is good enough to do the job. |
Post# 914302 , Reply# 24   1/6/2017 at 12:52 (2,638 days old) by Leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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is there supposed to be any gasket for the underside of the support where it gets screwed to the lower component? |
Post# 914337 , Reply# 26   1/6/2017 at 16:32 (2,638 days old) by Leon (New Haven, CT)   |   | |
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It is the arm support that is not flat and it doesn't perfectly mate up to the pump housing. I guess i will source another one and hope it doesn't happen again. |
Post# 915518 , Reply# 27   1/13/2017 at 14:51 (2,631 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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A question was asked earlier about the difference between the KD-15 and KD-16/17 wash arm supports. For archiving purposes, I found a picture of an NOS KD-15 wash arm support on ebay.
The base of the support is designed to fit in the KD-15 sump, only and will not interchange with the KD-16/17 pump. This would apply to any 15 series KitchenAid (KDS-15, etc.).
Ben
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-NOS-Hobart-K... |