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Thread Number: 68199
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Burnin' the house down |
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Post# 909258 , Reply# 1 12/1/2016 at 14:49 (2,701 days old) by turquoisedude  (.) |
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Post# 909259 , Reply# 2 12/1/2016 at 14:49 (2,701 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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I wouldn't. Put it in a cable channel. They're cheap | ||
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Post# 909278 , Reply# 7 12/1/2016 at 17:43 (2,701 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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I hear you | ||
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Post# 909297 , Reply# 8 12/1/2016 at 19:37 (2,701 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Why didn't we have the same technology when I had those old apartment buildings. they were all pre 1900 buildings. I did what knew what to do for the times in the 80's before I took an Energy Auditing course. Finally I said I am out of here and let the new owners deal with the crap, sold all them and here I am now at my families converted camp. In the mid 90's I did everything right for energy efficiency when converting it to year round and I have got a huge payback after 20 plus years. I put outlets and separate breakers for everything even though every inside wall was torn out and totally replaced. Worth every cent to turn a 1959 into a today place that I originally grew up in as a kid.
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Post# 909313 , Reply# 10 12/1/2016 at 22:57 (2,701 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Nothing wrong with BOL What ain't there can't break. And yes, old houses have their little ways. Wouldn't change it for a ticky-tacky little box though. Not in a million years. This post was last edited 12/02/2016 at 02:44 | ||
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Post# 909372 , Reply# 12 12/2/2016 at 13:25 (2,700 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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Nothing wrong with running an extension under a rug as long as the cord isn't loaded to the point of generating significant heat. 25 watts at 120v is .2 amps, there will be no heating in the cord. I would be hesitant to plug a 1500w heater in though.
Foot traffic on the cord won't hurt it either, I have a cord here at work that the fork lift has run over a few hundred times. It is always a good idea to be cautious, but being reasonable is good too. | ||
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Post# 909405 , Reply# 13 12/2/2016 at 20:21 (2,700 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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KB, thanks for the info. I didn't think the wattage of the lamp would call too much of a problem, but "Safety First". After that you're on your own! | ||
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Post# 910018 , Reply# 14 12/7/2016 at 11:33 (2,695 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI) |
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Speaking of burnin the house down... I went to dinner last night and found this... I was ready to call the fire department and located the nearest exit just in case. | ||
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Post# 910025 , Reply# 16 12/7/2016 at 12:55 (2,695 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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But Jonathan, you will note that nothing caught fire. Yes it is dicey for sure to be running kilowatt heaters on marginal cords like that, but as long as the cords don't overheat it poses no problem. Cords in open air will likely stay cool, or at least you will see the smoke faster if and when it arises.
Heck it doesn't even wreck the heaters efficiency since the heat just comes from the cord instead lol | ||
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Post# 910026 , Reply# 17 12/7/2016 at 12:58 (2,695 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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There are also plastic conduits that have an adhesive strip on the back. You can attach these conduits to the baseboard and run a heavy duty extension cord through it to the location where you need an outlet. This way you don't need to run a cord under a rug and the cord is kept neatly out of site. I've used a set up like this for our pellet stove for almost 20 years now. It's easy, safe and inexpensive.
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| Post# 910030 , Reply# 18 12/7/2016 at 13:30 (2,695 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 910063 , Reply# 20 12/7/2016 at 19:00 (2,695 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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Years ago I was working with some local bar bands, handling some of the sound and lighting duties. I owned a 120 foot long hank of 4 conductor 4awg SO portable power cable. We were playing one show with a bigger headliner band. We had the wise idea that we'd just hang all the lights from both bands. Most all the cans were PAR64's with 500 or 1000 watt lamps, there were about 50-60 fixtures along with a few small pin spots etc.
About 1/2 way through the show, I was doing a walk around and checking up on things and I grabbed the cable and it was HOT, not so as you couldn't touch it but over 100 deg F for sure. This cable is about 1-1/4" in diameter. I did some quick mental math and figured the total lighting load to be around 30,000 watts. This would mean about 125 amps per hot in that cable! The even more crazy part was that I was connected into an open 200m main panel with Mueller clips (photo) directly to the bus plates. I don't disagree that it always is a good idea to err on the side of caution, especially if the wiring is used when unsupervised. But just because there is a little cable warming, doesn't mean there is a problem. I worry more about the plugs and outlets, that is often were the concentrated resistance is and why your vacuum cleaner plug sometimes feels warm when you unplug it.
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Post# 910433 , Reply# 23 12/10/2016 at 03:36 (2,693 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Hippo clips in a main panel!!!???This is an accident waiting to happen.Most bands today bring a genset with them to power lights and equipment.Much safer than trying to tap into the buildings system.If the group doesn't have a generator-it is easy and cheap to rent one for the show-and saves potential grief. | ||
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Post# 910448 , Reply# 24 12/10/2016 at 08:09 (2,693 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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 Those hippo clips look like something someone nearby me on another street in my neighborhood must have--not just to over-decorate his Christmas lights (everybody does THAT sort of competition!) but actually his HALLOWEEN display...
I can imagine someone going to that house maybe one day, or a couple or more days after, wanting to see all that turned on--and the stuff blowing every fuse, if not on the block--surely "powerless" that house... --The owner would probably not wisely give in; and supposedly can do all that safely and constructively, year-after-year...
I've gotten the lecture about an extension cord going from one room to a next (and I think the irony of it being OK buried under a rug--or did I get a hollerin' about it being there?!)... I had a heater plugged into a light-duty extension cord just to see the plug gradually attempt to break away from the rest on the cord, (yes from the type of use, load & heat) then wisely stuck that cord for it right into the wall! (I was such fun, flinging boogers into it--and saw an ANT go into a frenzy getting it to hang around one of the vertical heating elements as I'd turned it on...) Somehow at work I wanted to use a fan and a co-worker got on me for plugging a heavy duty cord into some light duty one going to the workplace's outlet--to which I told her: "It's a small TABLE FAN, not a FREEZER!"...
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