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Post# 911382   12/16/2016 at 13:39 (335 days old) by luxflairguy (Sumas, WA)        

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Post# 911383 , Reply# 1   12/16/2016 at 13:45 (335 days old) by ea56 (Sonoma Co.,CA)        

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I believe this is correct, RCA did used to own Whirlpool.
Eddie


Post# 911385 , Reply# 2   12/16/2016 at 13:58 (335 days old) by revvinkevin (Between Mickey Mouse & the Queen Mary (So. Cal.)        

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Post# 911392 , Reply# 3   12/16/2016 at 14:42 (335 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
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This dryer has been showing up intermittently on our local CL for many months.  I think I may have posted it here once.  The price has been consistently posted as $250 until this latest ad that re-appeared a week ago, where it has been lowered to $199.

 

I think someone here may have recently found the matching (or nearly matching) washer, but the ad wasn't running when they posted about having acquired it.

 

And yes, RCA did own Whirlpool.  The two names went hand-in-hand for many years.  See picture #3 in the CL posting.



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Post# 911396 , Reply# 4   12/16/2016 at 15:25 (335 days old) by Kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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The pool hall I used to manage years ago had a pair of these. The owner had them in storage for years and one day hauled them in so we could wash our own bar rags. They had seen very little use but were very dusty from years in a storage garage. He sent a kid back to clean them up.

When I went back to connect them and get them running I saw that the employee had scrubbed every surface of them with a green Scotchbrite pad!! They were destroyed... They did last a good long time but everytime I used them I was pissed. I told the kid I was going to wash his car for him sometime lol


Post# 911398 , Reply# 5   12/16/2016 at 15:55 (335 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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The first dryer that my parents purchased was an RCA Whirlpool.  It was purchased in mid-1964 at a Davidson's Scratch-and-Dent sale in Atlanta.  It was gas, and fairly simple.  I don't remember it having a separate start switch, just turn the timer and it started.

 

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Post# 911404 , Reply# 6   12/16/2016 at 16:36 (335 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

No, as mentioned on this site several times before, RCA NEVER owned Whirlpool. Whirlpool just had a license to use the RCA trademark for a period of years. This was between circa 1955 & 1966. Whirlpool purchased RCA's Estate appliance division, and use of the RCA trademark was part of the deal. This involved Sears, who DID have majority ownership of Whirlpool Corp. for many years. Other companies were also purchased around this time. See the link below - reply #23.

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Post# 911426 , Reply# 7   12/16/2016 at 18:06 (335 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Tom, thanks for the correction.  I always thought it was odd that back in those days (long before Beatrice and hedge funds) a corporation that was more about electronics and broadcasting would want to get into the home appliance business.

 

 


Post# 911443 , Reply# 8   12/16/2016 at 20:42 (335 days old) by luxflairguy (Sumas, WA)        

Tom!  Thanks for cleaning this up!  I'm afraid I hadn't read the entire summer thread.  So 2 question I still would like answered:  196_ what?  And super speed just normal tumble?  Or a little faster.  I have to say I'm getting better and better at this!  Greg


Post# 911461 , Reply# 9   12/17/2016 at 03:55 (335 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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PhilR has a very similar set

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Post# 911464 , Reply# 10   12/17/2016 at 06:31 (335 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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As Tom said,
While US sets were marketed as RCA Whirlpool, they were not made by RCA.

But
The Canadian RCA Victor and RCA Whirlpool were made by Inglis for RCA, using many Whirlpool parts and patents.

In fact, when Whirlpool stopped using the RCA name in the US, the Canadian version went the other way as they stopped using Whirlpool. So they were briefly badged as RCA Victor and then just RCA. Then in the early 1970s, RCA Canada changed it's line from being Made by Inglis/Whirlpool to Westinghouse. And I have documentation that shows they switched again to GE around 1977 as I saw a 1977 RCA document showing a GE/Hotpoint washer.




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Post# 911469 , Reply# 11   12/17/2016 at 07:16 (335 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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RCA Whirlpool dryer
1964 RCA Whirlpool washer/dryer set

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This air conditioner is a Whirlpool clone.
RCA air conditioner
RCA air conditioner

The 1st of the following pics show a RCA by Inglis dishwasher, a RCA by Westinghouse dishwasher, and a few pictures of 1977 laundry appliances which were Hotpoint clones. RCA Victor also used to sell small Hotpoint appliances in Canada back in the 1950s including the kettle in the last two pictures.


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Post# 911515 , Reply# 12   12/17/2016 at 13:43 (334 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        

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2 speeds on a dryer? Why would you need that? I would assume that knob pretty much stayed on Super Speed unless you owned stock in the utility company. 


Post# 911519 , Reply# 13   12/17/2016 at 13:53 (334 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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I think just the blower had two speeds on these models the later models (with the fixed bulkhead) had dual tumble speeds, and only on US models, my Canadian model doesn't have that feature since it has the old V belt drive style for the blower.

Post# 911520 , Reply# 14   12/17/2016 at 14:04 (334 days old) by brucelucenta (tulsa, oklahoma)        
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What I was told, some 30 years ago buy the owner of an appliance company that was top in sales of Whirlpool in Oklahoma, is that in the early 50's Whirlpool paid One million dollars to use the little circular RCA trademark on all their appliances for a 10 year period. Since Reeves TV and appliances here in Tulsa was in existence from right after WWII until the 90's, I figured he knew what he was talking about. And at least in the USA it does seem that the RCA emblem did go for about 10 years before disappearing. I do remember that later on there were RCA appliances that were made by GE also, but that was long after Whirlpool had quit using the RCA emblem on anything of theirs. I'm surprised that John (Combo) doesn't comment on this. I am sure he remembers how this all went and would know it in more detail than I.

Post# 911544 , Reply# 15   12/17/2016 at 18:39 (334 days old) by DADoES (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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Two-speed on dryers of this vintage refers to two drying rates/speeds. Super speed is normal, same as single-speed models. Gentle speed reduced the airflow (low blower speed by shifting the belt on the pulley) and probably the heat input rate (lower element wattage or gas burner BTU).

There were two-speed models with fixed bulkheads. Airflow was reduced by a moveable baffle in the blower housing.

There were models with multiple tumble speeds in the 1970s, I believe it was the "X" series in 1972, the "A" series in 1974, and the "D" series in 1976. Three tumble speeds were offered at first, then it was reduced to two, then the feature was eliminated. The last model offered with two tumble speeds was LDE-9800/LDI-9801.


Post# 911549 , Reply# 16   12/17/2016 at 19:40 (334 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Phil... That RCA vertical air conditioner.. I had iirc a Westinghouse version of that back in the early 80's.. it wasn't new when I bought it but not very old at the time and little used.. was Vancouver after all.  I Just needed so I could sleep during the day with the windows closed (night shift worker) 


Post# 921197 , Reply# 17   2/13/2017 at 21:23 (276 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Pete,

Sorry I took so long to reply. But I just found catalogs with pictures...


RCA appliances switched from being Inglis/Whirlpool clones to Westinghouse clones in the early 1970s, the one I have isn't a Westinghouse. They do look similar however!

These two are Westinghouse (the second picture shows RCA clone from 1974)


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Post# 921198 , Reply# 18   2/13/2017 at 21:26 (276 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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This is the 1970 version of my 1969 RCA air conditioner, just the knobs changed but they were still made by Whirlpool. The Whirlpool versions had push buttons for the fan speeds.

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Post# 921207 , Reply# 19   2/13/2017 at 22:39 (276 days old) by Petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Yes that's exactly it in the first pictures.. the 8000btu one. thanks.. Prior to that I also had the little white 5000 horizontal one.


Post# 921213 , Reply# 20   2/13/2017 at 23:26 (276 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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The dryer is still showing up on local CL.  Price has been reduced to $175. 

 

Clearly, the seller isn't in any kind of hurry.





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