Thread Number: 68454
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Samsung Washer Explosion Repairs |
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Post# 911974 , Reply# 1   12/20/2016 at 21:14 (2,654 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Granted Ford had a LOT more units to recall. But they also had a couple dozen more deaths...
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Post# 911978 , Reply# 2   12/20/2016 at 22:11 (2,654 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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LG initially did the same: add warning stickers and reprogram the spin cycle to be super sensitive. There are actually a bunch of threads and YT videos of people who complain that their LG WaveForve no longer spins or takes twice as long due to continuous rebalancing.
Gotta love the new "Normal - NO BEDDING" cycle and the corresponding stickers. Maybe Samsung should have just used pictures on the cycle dial for all those illiterate people out there... |
Post# 911984 , Reply# 4   12/21/2016 at 00:19 (2,654 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 911991 , Reply# 5   12/21/2016 at 04:40 (2,654 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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As far as I personally am concerned, top load HE washers of this type are garbage and not worth the powder it would take to blow them up. So why bother? |
Post# 912007 , Reply# 6   12/21/2016 at 09:47 (2,653 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 912016 , Reply# 7   12/21/2016 at 10:42 (2,653 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 912040 , Reply# 9   12/21/2016 at 13:32 (2,653 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Bear in mind when comparing the recall of the phone vs the washer.
There are MANY MANY more phones out in the wild. The failure of the phone and it's potential for damage is FAR worse then the worst case scenario with the washer. It isn't a likely scenario that the exploding washer would cause a mid-air disaster for a jumbo jet for instance. You can't compare the recall of the Note 7 vs the non-recall of the washers in any reasonable way. Well other then they are both Samsung ;) |
Post# 912073 , Reply# 11   12/21/2016 at 19:04 (2,653 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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my post was a joke kbOnes! Jeeze |
Post# 912247 , Reply# 13   12/23/2016 at 03:54 (2,652 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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Have enough intelligence not to buy a top load HE washer and you will NEVER have this problem to begin with. |
Post# 912264 , Reply# 14   12/23/2016 at 06:47 (2,651 days old) by Sbond22 (Grove City, Fl. USA)   |   | |
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Post# 912277 , Reply# 17   12/23/2016 at 08:31 (2,651 days old) by Sbond22 (Grove City, Fl. USA)   |   | |
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Post# 912331 , Reply# 19   12/23/2016 at 15:44 (2,651 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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earthling, you're completely right! I've wondered that for a long time. Lots of newer top loaders have totally foregone the out of balance trip switches. GE, WP, Samsung, Frige, Elux etc.
Only in the last few years of high tech washers have the out of balance trip systems come back, and only on a few brands. It really is a critical failsafe, especially with these high spin speeds we're at again, and with mostly plastic washers. (Even though there are some amazing plastics out there, honestly). Whirlpool's FL and TL machines ARE using sophisticated G sensors on their tubs to control out of balance situations. My Maxima must've had some items shift in high spin one day, causing it to loudly vibrate. The machine caught it and immediately killed the cycle. It was far along in the cycle so it just ended. But if not, it likely would've rebalanced and tried again. WP's TL machines can sense vibrations even if your feet aren't level or if your floor isn't stable, and it will throttle the high spin to those conditions. Shameful Samsung, and many others, are cheapening out and totally relying on the limited ability of their balance rings. Being in engineering, there are only two options I foresee. The engineers did have a system, and it got overruled. OR, they contract outsourced some of the design, and the less experienced engineering contractors did not consider an emergency system, likely because the client [Samsung] said don't bother. As for why companies abandoned the pedestal suspension, because it's actually less forgiving with vibrations, and higher spin speeds would not meet the smooth, quiet operation that customers demand. More stable? Maybe, but if there's anything that the balance rings can't handle, all those vibrations would immediately get sent to the floor. If you get into a harmonic frequency situation, especially at these new high speeds, you can start to do REAL damage to peoples' wooden 2nd floors. Where laundry is increasingly put. Old days had the washers in the basement or garage, on concrete slabs. There's no concrete on 90% of peoples' 2nd floors. Hanging suspensions totally isolate vibrations and frequencies from the cabinets and floors. |
Post# 912337 , Reply# 21   12/23/2016 at 15:57 (2,651 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 912344 , Reply# 22   12/23/2016 at 17:53 (2,651 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 912364 , Reply# 24   12/23/2016 at 23:30 (2,651 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Might be all the Columbia wear and The North Face outerwear that people are wearing now. Years ago, men wore trenchcoats and overcoats to the office, now it's all North Face parkas. While coats used to be sent to a dry cleaner, people wash Columbia wear, which is more waterproof. I think it would help if places like ski areas had laundromats with those big Milnor washers that can handle bulky and waterproof ski and snowboard wear so that people would not have to put those clothes in their Samsung.
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Post# 912636 , Reply# 27   12/26/2016 at 06:27 (2,648 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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You can't prevent these faults by construction. Throw a brick into any washer at its full spin speed, and it will destruct in the exact same way. |
Post# 912643 , Reply# 28   12/26/2016 at 08:43 (2,648 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Post# 912649 , Reply# 30   12/26/2016 at 11:02 (2,648 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Have you ever washed a water proof item in a Unimatic\companions? |
Post# 912661 , Reply# 31   12/26/2016 at 13:54 (2,648 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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These things spin ridiculously fast. Even my new Maytag spins slower...900 rpm max and slowing it down a bit seems to help. But yeah, people don't know how to do laundry. You have to be more careful these days in modern machines with how you load items. My coworker had a new Samsung TL and he absolutely loved it...he traded it for a FL when they did the recall. He likes the new one, but does miss the old one. LOL
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