Thread Number: 68479
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Post War/1950's Germany Homefront |
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Post# 912290   12/23/2016 at 10:09 (2,652 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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While researching the "Sunil" 1950's commercial (see other post) came upon various other things about Germany during that period. Thought would share as we so seldom discuss that era and place.
www.alamy.com/stock-photo/germany... |
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Post# 912295 , Reply# 1   12/23/2016 at 10:35 (2,652 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 912296 , Reply# 2   12/23/2016 at 10:37 (2,652 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 912319 , Reply# 4   12/23/2016 at 13:05 (2,652 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 912409 , Reply# 5   12/24/2016 at 10:00 (2,651 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 912411 , Reply# 6   12/24/2016 at 10:18 (2,651 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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I know a few who came from England, and they told me back in 1954, there were still holes from bombs in central London. Eventually, the Golden Lane, and Barbican estates were built there. Barbican is a grade 1 listed historic site today. |
Post# 912414 , Reply# 7   12/24/2016 at 10:26 (2,651 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Hard working and willing to sacrifice - things would have been even worse, had they not been. Just, the US insisted on being repaid, their governments were worse than Donald Trump and Maggie Thatcher combined and they suffered enormous losses in both WWI and WWII which had to be overcome. Just plain awful, all around. C.S. Lewis wrote a lot of good things on how awful the mentality of the governing class was at that time. Horrid as she was, Thatcher was a break with that. One of the very few good things I can think to say of her, apart from her standing up to the Argentine Juanta. |
Post# 912451 , Reply# 8   12/24/2016 at 15:59 (2,651 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 912455 , Reply# 9   12/24/2016 at 16:35 (2,651 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Oetker products are staples in Germany. For baking power the equal would probably be Davis or Rumsford.
Recipe book/owner's manual for my vintage Bosch "Universal" mixer/Nutrimill en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Oetker... www.oetker.us/us-en/about-dr-oetk... Back on topic: While much of Germany was like this just after the war: www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/... West Germany by the 1950's was well into Wirtschaftswunder (German Miracle) economy. Things in East Germany however were another matter. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtschaft... It seems wiser heads prevailed and soon the USA and Allies backed off much of harshness (and quite frankly blood thirstiness) of Henry Morgenthau, Jr's plans that would have sent Germany down the same path as the Treaty of Versailles/end of WWI. The outcome was that barely fifteen or so years after WWII West Germany was an economic power house of Europe, much to the dismay (and or disgust/fear) of some elsewhere. |
Post# 912524 , Reply# 10   12/25/2016 at 06:37 (2,651 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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repaid it's war debt. No other country could have. |
Post# 912550 , Reply# 11   12/25/2016 at 12:19 (2,650 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Though there is/was much moaning about the Treaty of Versailles and Germany's crippling war debt, she barely paid any of her WWI debts. Initial payments began but soon for various reasons were reduced then finally stopped all together.
After WWII the Allies and Soviets were determined to get what they could out of Germany *this time*, and again had the Morgenthau Plan been implemented to it's fullest Germany's economy (West) would have been a basket case for decades to come. Again calmer heads did prevail this time and were determined not to repeat the mistakes of the ToV. Germany did suffer some economic hardships/losses, including forfeiture and or theft of patents, factories, manufacturing, and reparations, but nothing like the blood thirst some wanted. Also playing into this was the threat of communism/Soviet Union spreading across western Europe. The USA and others realized (again using post WWI as a model) that a beaten down and disgruntled west German population would perhaps welcome Stalin and the spread of Soviet Union; this was to be avoided at all costs. Of course reason why Germany was able to rebuild so quickly post WWII (and WWI for that matter) has much to do with *Prussian Values*. That also explains even today why Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe. |
Post# 912701 , Reply# 12   12/27/2016 at 01:23 (2,649 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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If I'm not mistaken, the US war effort also lead to a huge government debt. To address this, income taxes rose to over 90% in the late 40's and early 50's. This was even the topic of one Twilight Zone show, as I recall, where an elderly couple that won a lottery discovered they were broke after spending about 10% of it on good deeds.
Of course these days, a top income tax rate over 40% is verboten in the USA. Trump proposes to drop the current rate down to 33% or less. I've heard people claim that balancing the high rates of the 40's and 50's were the numerous available deductions, most of which are no longer. Still, we just elected a president who managed to pay zero taxes for 18 years on $1 billion income. Go figure. |