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Post# 915230   1/11/2017 at 20:30 (283 days old) by LowFlow (New York)        

Old DW: KENMORE Elite Quiet Guard 655 16632000 13 years old
New DW: Kenmore 655 13222 w/powerwave

Hope I don't get flamed, but I wanted to put an opposing opinion here. I learned a lot here very recently.

A recent need to purchase a new dishwasher got me all interested in the tech. Some consumer reports articles and reviews, and then this site had me thinking I should have sprung the $200 for the new motor, grinder assembly instead of the $400 score 77 from CR Kenmore (with $1000 DW above and below it). I thought to myself, 160 minute smartwash cycle times, 3.5 hour pot wash, no food disposer, no violent water throwing...

And I am thrilled!!! Using Kirkland pacs (same as always) my dishes have never been this clean, nor my pots and pans. (smartwash and smartwash with heated water seems to tackle most things. Only used pots and pans once for full pots and pans in the last week). Not sure the time matters that much either.

And its deep without the macerator. I can stuff the thing too! Top rack can hold a stew/pasta pot.

Quieter than the quiet guard. Blown away. It even cleaned the bottom of a frying pan that never looked quite good.

I'm gonna get hate messages? Or I hope clarifications. But for the price. The performance is really really good.

Still can't get any good info on how three stage filtration really works no matter how much I google (and why is it three stage if the water can go through the big hole in the top and then through the mesh, its two stage no matter how you look at it).

OK. I'm gushing, and am way pleasantly surprised (still think I'm going to be worried when the old top loader goes).

Maybe I am wrong, but.

(one thing I will complain about is I came across some EU manuals for DW and they had wash/rinse cycle listings for each of the options and the kenmore manual is real short on details. I would love if the manual had real nitty gritty in it)

OK. I'm done. And thanks for the education.

Post# 915238 , Reply# 1   1/11/2017 at 21:37 (283 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Murando531 has the similar whirlpool with what they call Total Coverage wash arm.  Andrew can also explain the filtration system to you.  I have Kenmore Elite 14833 with 360 degree total wash arm and self cleaning filter.  When I use Pots & Pans and Sani Rinse, the copper bottoms of my Revere Ware look like they've been polished.  You made a great choice. 

Post# 915253 , Reply# 2   1/12/2017 at 04:33 (283 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        
I also have the smilar

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Whirlpool with the Total Coverage Wash Arm with front controls. I LOVE IT!! You made a great choice.

Post# 915268 , Reply# 3   1/12/2017 at 07:04 (283 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Despite what some opinions state on here, new dishwashers do quite a good job using less water.

Post# 915299 , Reply# 4   1/12/2017 at 10:42 (283 days old) by Wishwash (Illinois)        

There's a lot of reluctance to change on this forum. No matter how nostalgic the old stuff is, the new stuff just works more efficiently and effectively.

Post# 915353 , Reply# 5   1/12/2017 at 15:22 (282 days old) by LowFlow (New York)        

Thanks. I was wondering if I was off the wall and just not getting it. But it really is rather sweet functioning.

Think I'll start another thread on the filtration. Because no matter how I look at it, there are three "filters" but water only ever passes through two them and one is always bypassed.... I just don't get it.

Post# 915388 , Reply# 6   1/12/2017 at 18:10 (282 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Page 8 of the manual says: "The upper filter assembly keeps oversized items and foreign objects, along with very fine food particles out of the pump." So I guess, to Whirlpool, the gray middle part counts as two filters/steps, since it removes coarse and fine particles out of the water

Post# 915398 , Reply# 7   1/12/2017 at 18:42 (282 days old) by LowFlow (New York)        

That's the part that give me a headache! I will post that new thread now! They both drain into the same hole!

Coming in like 5 minutes!

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