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if they remade the fridgedair 1-18 washer dryer models how would you see a 2017 fridgedair 1-18?
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Post# 917291   1/24/2017 at 08:29 (2,621 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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if fridgedair decided to make as an special edition model for there 2017-2018 washer dryer line how would you see a fridgedair 1-18 model today compared with its vintage version today?

me the diffrence i would see in a 2017 1-18 would be as the agitator do its up and down washing action i would see the washer heating the wash water to make sure the wash water would stay hot for the whole wash process until the washer decide to send in cold water to prevent clothes from wrinkleling but stay true to the original vintage design even if it would be a special edition model if they where celebrating many years of the brand feel free to post your toughs and on how you would see a modern version of the fridgedair 1-18 in 2017?





Post# 917296 , Reply# 1   1/24/2017 at 08:44 (2,621 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Unfortunately, that would never happen since General Motors were the ones who made those machines. The moment White-Westinghouse bought Frigidaire they immediately stopped making the 1-18 pulsator machine and replaced it with a Westinghouse mechanism which held less and had lousy water removal. Too bad, since that was the very last of the washers that were "different".

Post# 917299 , Reply# 2   1/24/2017 at 09:03 (2,620 days old) by glomain (tuscarawas cnty. (eastern ohio))        
W.C.I.

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screwed up every old brand they got paws on. If GM got their brand back & made 1-18s again, I would be the first in line, and would not care if they cost as much as Speed Queens. But that will NEVER happen.

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Post# 917304 , Reply# 3   1/24/2017 at 09:22 (2,620 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Yep, it's a nice thought. The 1-18 would definitely rival the speed queens of today in performance and durability.

Post# 917358 , Reply# 4   1/24/2017 at 13:10 (2,620 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
IF I could have it....

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A new 1-18 would have a stainless steel tub, automated dispensers for detergent/bleach/softener, the pulsator would be 1 piece (no cap to lose), and have the lid open toward the back rather than the side. Maybe some more insulation too. As for the dryers, might as well have them made by Whirlpool with a Frigidaire case.

Post# 917371 , Reply# 5   1/24/2017 at 13:39 (2,620 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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well 1 can dream you never know might happen who would of tough 1 day maytag would go back to the center dial design even if they are now own by whirlpool

Post# 917420 , Reply# 6   1/24/2017 at 18:16 (2,620 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        
SOLID TUB

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If you could make this again, I would make it with a solid tub, with a faster, spin drain. The 1-18's did not have the tangling problems the previous models did, and could have benefited from the increased spin speed.

Post# 917505 , Reply# 7   1/25/2017 at 11:45 (2,619 days old) by HiLoVane (Columbus OH)        

While I don't know what GM sold Frigidaire in the first place, my guess was that it didn't adhere to the corporate bottom line. That said, I don't think it really wouldn't have mattered who they sold the division to; the pulsating agitator mechanism would've probably been scrapped, anyway.

Remember, too, when AMC sold Kelvinator to WCI, they too, did away with Kelvy's orbital agitator mechanism.


Post# 917534 , Reply# 8   1/25/2017 at 15:28 (2,619 days old) by washman (o)        

While I don't know what GM sold Frigidaire in the first place, my guess was that it didn't adhere to the corporate bottom line. That said, I don't think it really wouldn't have mattered who they sold the division to; the pulsating agitator mechanism would've probably been scrapped, anyway.
Remember, too, when AMC sold Kelvinator to WCI, they too, did away with Kelvy's orbital agitator mechanism.

 

This was part of the divesting saga that hit US car companies as they sought to cope with more stringent EPA regs on emissions. Ford dumped Philco  and Chrysler sold Airtemp to Fedders in 1976.  In Chrysler's case, they were up against the wall and had no choice but to sell.  Getting rid of Philco was part of Iacocca's "4 fifties" program when he took over Ford in 1970.  He wanted to grow profits by 200 million a year by getting out of things Ford probably never should have been involved with in the first place.


Post# 917548 , Reply# 9   1/25/2017 at 17:46 (2,619 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
It was those plus other

circumstances.
The 1973 oil embargo did stress the big three, and they needed to spend on downsizing cars. If you may recall the long gas lines. Most panicked at least a little. That's also why the national speed limit was 55 m.p.h. Not all regulations are bad. I also remember the river in Cleveland on fire in 1969 from pollution.
The Dayton plant was getting rather long in the tooth, and had high legacy costs.
It was the only GM plant represented by the I.B.E.W., and not the U.A.W. I think they had wage and benefit parity with the other Delco Moraine Dayton plant.
GM did convert the low rise Frigidaire facility to vehicle assembly, but the oldest multi floor plant closed. It has already been redeveloped into residential and commercial properties.
I wouldn't say that the big three shouldn't have ever made appliances. They made some of the best in fact. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Borg Warner which owned Norge had been in that sector at least as long as GM, and so was Bendix, which was also an automotive supplier, and Westinghouse made air brakes for railroad rolling stock and locomotives.


Post# 917575 , Reply# 10   1/25/2017 at 19:57 (2,619 days old) by glomain (tuscarawas cnty. (eastern ohio))        
Agreed

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when automakers owned them they did make the best (sometimes better than the cars & trucks they made) they sold them off to the highest bidder,& the new owners w/ no care about the brand they were buying, & thinking of we will ride the gravy train of that brand name then just sell it to another company,when the public finds out what kind of shit were making now.My opinion,but seems true if you look at the crap thats out there today.PRIME EXAMPLE FRIGIDAIRE

Post# 917580 , Reply# 11   1/25/2017 at 20:56 (2,619 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
1/18 for 2017!

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it is such a wild dream but who could make it?? and with all these energy restrictions it is impossible - but actually you would get great turnover with less water in the tub. and what about that long long spray rinse - that most certainly could never happen. it is the most wild dream that we all wish would happen! it would probably have a stainless tub with a white pulsator and of course a self clean filter. such a shame it couldnt be made!


Post# 917645 , Reply# 12   1/26/2017 at 09:24 (2,618 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Peter has it right. Especially the self-cleaning filter. Today's HE detergents would greatly improve the resistance to sudz-lock. The 'Guvmenk would freak-out over water usage. Maybe newer technology would allow for a true Rapid-Dry Spin, but would have to figure out how to lock the lid. Whole cabinet would need wrapping in noise-deadening material such as John and Jason have used. They used adhesive sheets of automotive stuff. A timed bleach and fabric softener dispenser would be great to boost efficiency and do away with the add-on dispensers and the need to return towards the end of the wash to drop-in the bleach cup. Also, I have seen some disasters when a poorly-fitted Fabric Softener Dispenser Disc flew off and took chunks out of the agitator.

Post# 918180 , Reply# 13   1/29/2017 at 22:23 (2,615 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Why couldn't it be efficient?

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A new 1-18 would not have to be wasteful. Perhaps a new version would not have to fill all the way up. The circle fill would help wet down the clothes faster and later, the circle fill can be activated during a slow spin cycle to spin-rinse the clothes and not have to completely fill up. If dispensers were at the side and independently activated, softener and bleach could be handled at the right time. If the spin speed could be up to 1000 rpm that would help, although I think a 1-18 was better than average back then. But would anyone be willing to manufacture it?

Have any of you heard of the Impossible Project, where a company was formed to once again make Polaroid instant film and now, cameras? They took over the last Polaroid plant in the world and are now selling film and cameras. Somehow they made it work, could anyone do that with a 1-18 (or a washer/dryer combination or a classic Maytag)?


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