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Post# 137119 6/21/2006 at 16:01 (6,508 days old) by jakins  (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Hi All the KD-20 got here a few weeks ago and has been a lot of fun, and a few grey hairs to play with. First I found that the fan for the drying system dod not work. Not to worry we have a store here in central Florida that recyclec old electracal and electronic parts called Skycraft. they had a fan motor that I used to fix that problem. the main Problem I had was the drain for this dishwasher. I tried two diff. Pumps that have worked for me in the past, No Good the timer did not give them enough time to drain. I was rincing with soapy water. This dishwasher has a gravity drain and is installed in Fl. where we have no cellars, and is on my back porch just below grade. What to Do? I plumbed the gravity drain to the back of the cabinet cut holes so the pipe went under and out of site and hooked into a narrow bucket equiped with a sump pump and float switch. PROBLEM SLOVED. She works fine and the sump has wide enough openings to pump out any food particals that may pass the filter in the machine. The only way that I can use this machine is this way. Now since I can only use this machine as a built in in this house, I have Two side panels and a porcelain top to make a stand alone unit of you kitchenaid. They may work with a kd-11, kd-12, kd-14 I am not sure about that but may be worth a try. the panels are yours for the asking, You pay the shipping and they are yours. Thanks John 
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Post# 137120 , Reply# 1 6/21/2006 at 16:02 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137121 , Reply# 2 6/21/2006 at 16:03 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137122 , Reply# 3 6/21/2006 at 16:04 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137123 , Reply# 4 6/21/2006 at 16:05 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137125 , Reply# 5 6/21/2006 at 16:06 (6,508 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 137126 , Reply# 6 6/21/2006 at 16:06 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137127 , Reply# 7 6/21/2006 at 16:08 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137128 , Reply# 8 6/21/2006 at 16:09 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Dial and racks | ||
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Post# 137133 , Reply# 9 6/21/2006 at 16:20 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Racks | ||
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Post# 137134 , Reply# 10 6/21/2006 at 16:21 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Dial | ||
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Post# 137135 , Reply# 11 6/21/2006 at 16:21 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Dial 2 | ||
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Post# 137136 , Reply# 12 6/21/2006 at 16:22 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Post# 137138 , Reply# 13 6/21/2006 at 16:25 (6,508 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Painting the Spray Arm | ||
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Post# 137145 , Reply# 15 6/21/2006 at 16:55 (6,508 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 137151 , Reply# 16 6/21/2006 at 17:57 (6,508 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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| Post# 137161 , Reply# 17 6/21/2006 at 19:15 (6,508 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC) | ||
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Post# 137174 , Reply# 18 6/21/2006 at 20:52 (6,508 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 137176 , Reply# 19 6/21/2006 at 20:59 (6,508 days old) by quiltnbear () | ||
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Oh my god I see a Westy I love your dishwasher too, but that Westy I want one so bad!! Anyway congrats on that great dish machine. Scott in CA | ||
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Post# 137179 , Reply# 20 6/21/2006 at 21:05 (6,508 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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I keep staring at it... | ||
| Post# 137186 , Reply# 21 6/21/2006 at 21:36 (6,508 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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| Post# 137197 , Reply# 22 6/21/2006 at 22:15 (6,508 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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John what a beautiful machine. I love those racks. Just wonder how long the cycle takes to complete? Beautiful Westinghouse next to it as well!! Do you use it often? Terry | ||
| Post# 137208 , Reply# 23 6/21/2006 at 22:47 (6,508 days old) by gregm () | ||
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cycle time I think the cycle averages 20-30 min ........... does this have forced air drying or is it "before" that ? I think it has one long 5 or maybe a tad longer minute wash, and two-two minute rinses and a ten or maybe 15 min dry period. | ||
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Post# 137210 , Reply# 24 6/21/2006 at 22:57 (6,508 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 137246 , Reply# 25 6/22/2006 at 09:14 (6,508 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Yes, thanks for the information Greg, I think all dishwashers should have a cycle choice that could be completed in that amount of time. Eugene, 2 hours sure seems like a long time!! Hope you are never in a hurry for those dishes.LOL Terry | ||
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Post# 137284 , Reply# 27 6/22/2006 at 11:07 (6,508 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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John, | ||
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Post# 137292 , Reply# 28 6/22/2006 at 12:31 (6,508 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Terry-- I have found that using the INSTA WASH cycle (which is only 20 minutes long, with no drying period) cleans many of my loads very well. Obviously I don't wash unscrubbed pots/pans or BobLoads® using that cycle, but it drives me insane to wait 1-1/2 hours (I generally interrupt and cancel the dry portion of the cycle) for loads washed on the NORMAL cycle. The way I cook, there are generally two loads of pots/pans, etc. during food prep, then a BobLoad® of dinner dishes and a final load of dessert dishes and renegade pots/pans. My previous DW, a TOL Frigidaire had an EXPRESS cycle, which was 35 minutes (again, subtracting the dry portion) and I used it almost all the time with great results. The Maytag's INSTA WASH is just a little too short to handle the loads the short cycle on my Frigi could handle. Having said that, the new Maytag cleans pots/pans/casseroles much better than the Frigidaire ever did. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.... | ||
| Post# 137303 , Reply# 29 6/22/2006 at 13:30 (6,508 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Hi Eugene, That makes sense that it would have the Ista Cycle. I can understand your flustration with that long long cycle just for a normal load. Thanks for the information. Terry | ||
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Post# 137344 , Reply# 30 6/22/2006 at 18:37 (6,507 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 137347 , Reply# 31 6/22/2006 at 18:50 (6,507 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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TOL Frigidaire  | ||
| Post# 137355 , Reply# 32 6/22/2006 at 19:16 (6,507 days old) by mikepaquette () | ||
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Frigilux With that many dirty dishes I sure wish I had a invite for a meal. I just know your a good cook !!! Mike | ||
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Post# 137369 , Reply# 33 6/22/2006 at 21:10 (6,507 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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GadgetGary-- I wish I had some pics of the Frigidaire, but I don't. It is in my sister's home. I gave it to her when I bought my new Maytag back in December. Mike-- Yes, meals at my house are pretty damn good if I may say so. I have a full-time buffet (with skirting and the whole nine yards) set up in my dining room. I used to work for a catering business, so I have a lot of equipment and dishes. I live in a very small town and having people over for dinner/brunch a few times during the week constitutes my social life. We have a lot of fun and everyone enjoys the food and company. I'd love to have everyone from AW.ORG over, but my only washer is a 2003 Frigidaire FL'er. I like it, but it's boring and not vintage. Bob-- Actually, there is no LIGHT cycle on this model. It has HEAVY, NORMAL, CHINA/CRYSTAL and INSTA-WASH cycles. To be honest, I've never once used the CHINA cycle on any of my DW's. Don't know why, I just never have. Maybe I should try that. I'll time it and see how long it is. BTW, in your honor, I refuse to use the term BobLoad® without the registered trademark symbol. Even if it is illegal. You've earned it, man! | ||
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Post# 137375 , Reply# 34 6/22/2006 at 21:28 (6,507 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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I wish I had some pics of the Frigidaire, | ||
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Post# 137385 , Reply# 35 6/22/2006 at 21:49 (6,507 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Gary, looks like you missed all the pix Eugene posted of his new dishwasher, at the time, and I do believe he may have had a load or two. But now I hope he shows us many more examples. Eugene, the owner manuals online for your dishwasher use the term light. I believe it's the same as your china/crystal cycle. 1 wash/2 rinses and a time of 82 minutes, that 45 mins. longer than the insta wash, and has the same cycle sequence, but with water heating. You can add high-temp wash option as well as tough scrub (plus?) options even to this cycle. Give it a whirl. On many of today's dishwasher, china/crystal is a euphamism for light wash cycle. | ||
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Post# 137470 , Reply# 36 6/23/2006 at 08:18 (6,507 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Here is his reply on the wash arm.. | ||
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Post# 137584 , Reply# 37 6/23/2006 at 20:08 (6,506 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 137808 , Reply# 40 6/25/2006 at 05:36 (6,505 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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KitchenAid winners | ||
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Post# 137818 , Reply# 41 6/25/2006 at 07:39 (6,505 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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I an not generally an alarmist, however............
People: Beware of what you use in a DW- My father recants horror stories of DOCTORS with which he worked that used an aquarium sealant (assuming it was non-toxic to life) that eventually leached into the DW and caused PERMANENT, IRREVERSIBLE neurological damage to the doctor's family. Sadly they were a bunch of extra-bright intellectually gifted people. Not after the damage was done. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ensure all lubricants, paints, caulking etc is fit for use as you intended to use it. Remember: would you put the substance on a plate and eat it? Because that is, in effect, what you are doing. Best of luck! Looks like an AWESOME machine. | ||
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Post# 137829 , Reply# 42 6/25/2006 at 09:51 (6,505 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Sump Pics | ||
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Post# 137830 , Reply# 43 6/25/2006 at 09:51 (6,505 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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drain cover insert bakalite | ||
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Post# 137831 , Reply# 44 6/25/2006 at 09:52 (6,505 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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sump | ||
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Post# 137832 , Reply# 45 6/25/2006 at 09:53 (6,505 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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pump head | ||
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Post# 137833 , Reply# 46 6/25/2006 at 09:54 (6,505 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Sump dimentions | ||
| Post# 137844 , Reply# 47 6/25/2006 at 11:13 (6,505 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Thanks so much Todd and Gary, that was so interesting. Funny to because Greg and I were just talking about that contest this past week and wondering who had won. Terry | ||
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Post# 137879 , Reply# 49 6/25/2006 at 12:51 (6,505 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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you know we would slash you, our dear friend Toggle, to shre
All information must be taken and judged against its source. I can only offer a caveat. Doc used the sealant in question to hold in place and mend a gasket, rather than spend a few rupies on a new one. My father showed me the newspaper article and told me he knew the doctor after having personally designed his laboratory for him. (Dad was an architect by trade.) The doctor was a research scientist for a non-rpofit organization (Translation: VERY low pay.) My conscious is clear. I said what I thought was prudent. If my statement is ridiculous, then so be it. I am not trying to hurt anyone or pee in anyone's Cheerios. (But I somehow always manage). :-) | ||
| Post# 137936 , Reply# 50 6/25/2006 at 21:18 (6,504 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!) | ||
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Post# 137937 , Reply# 51 6/25/2006 at 21:23 (6,504 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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