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Thread Number: 69099
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
Help with KitchenAid KUDS22 |
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Post# 918963 , Reply# 1 2/3/2017 at 13:23 (2,632 days old) by rp2813  (Sannazay) |
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 The wash arm problem might be attributable to a bad check valve. That's a little rubber flap inside the drain hose fitting where it connects to the pump. If it's stuck open, it can reduce the amount of water flowing to the upper wash arm. When my machine's check valve was stuck open, I could hear an "urping" sound coming from the sink during wash/rinse periods.
Replacing the check valve isn't a big deal. There's a GE part that can be used as a replacement, but I don't know the part number off hand.
Another possible cause could be a crack or tear in the flat flexible tube that connects the upper wash arm to the water supply tube on the rear wall of the tub. This tube is visible under the top rack when you pull it out. A visual check is an easy thing. I don't know if replacements are available for these, though.
The other issues are likely due to a failing timer. I'd not bother with the check valve or flat tube unless/until a replacement timer could be found. This post was last edited 02/03/2017 at 15:58 | ||
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Post# 919109 , Reply# 3 2/4/2017 at 01:05 (2,632 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Yeah, we had our machine connected to the disposal without an air gap, and that's where the noise was coming from.
$100 sounds a little steep to me, but maybe the resident KA experts will post their thoughts here.
Or you could start hunting down another cheap KDS22 with a known good timer and keep it as a potential parts donor. | ||
| Post# 919147 , Reply# 4 2/4/2017 at 09:33 (2,631 days old) by toddb (Lansing MI) | ||
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Believe me, a parts unit was my first thought, but I have as yet had no luck. Searched craigslist for a 200 mile radius, visited used appliance stores, three ReStores, thrift shops. Yeah, if anyone has a part to sell I would be interested. We use this machine every day. | ||
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Post# 919209 , Reply# 5 2/4/2017 at 13:59 (2,631 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Well, if nobody else chimes in, and the timer on ebay is guaranteed to work, you'd still only be into the dishwasher for $120. If you like how it performs, that's still a good value. It probably cost around $500 new.
I'll see if I can locate the GE part number for the check valve. If the flat flexible section for the upper wash arm is cracked or otherwise compromised, I'm not sure if those can be found new, but if you need to find a replacement, one shouldn't cost a whole lot. | ||
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Post# 919266 , Reply# 6 2/4/2017 at 17:29 (2,631 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 919357 , Reply# 7 2/5/2017 at 05:04 (2,631 days old) by Chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Me too! I had to replace that tube on my KDS-20. Was a fast easy fix. Mine had a huge crack on the underside but I never noticed it until I went looking for it. I don't remember what I paid for it but I think it was under $20 and I likely got it on eBay which is where I find most of my spare parts.
I have had to buy a few timers over the years for my older machines and anywhere between about $50 and $100 seems to be the going price especially if it's new in the box. At least that's been my experience. | ||
| Post# 919673 , Reply# 9 2/6/2017 at 12:11 (2,629 days old) by toddb (Lansing MI) | ||
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Solution and explanation Never mind I found it in an older post, WD1X1486 is the GE unit, you swap out the flapper in your old housing. Thanks! CLICK HERE TO GO TO toddb's LINK | ||
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Post# 919704 , Reply# 10 2/6/2017 at 14:36 (2,629 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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OK, now I'd like to know why my "Super Searchalator" episode yesterday would not produce the thread linked above when I queried "check valve" or "KA check valve" or "Kitchen Aid check valve." I knew at least one thread existed with the GE part number, but couldn't find it.
Anyway, I'm glad you found the part information through whatever search term you used. Be sure to report back on whether the new valve got the upper arm moving again. | ||
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Post# 919741 , Reply# 11 2/6/2017 at 17:11 (2,629 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Problems with the KD22 dishwasher.
I'm not sure from your description of the timer is faulty or not. The detergent compartments not opening is usually caused by the dishwasher getting too little water or a clogged main filter, this will also impact the upper wash our performance but you do definitely need a new check valve as you discovered. If you could elaborate a little bit more what's going on with the timer I might be able to help decide if you really need one | ||
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Post# 919845 , Reply# 13 2/7/2017 at 05:56 (2,628 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Noisy Timer It does sound like the higher speed rapid advance timer motor on your timer is failing, $100 for a complete timer is good, you may also be able to replace just the timer motor from a similar two motor timer, I have done this many times.
KA usually used two different makers of timers so you have to get the same make timer motor. With pictures of the timer and motor in question we can usually match one up. | ||
| Post# 919857 , Reply# 14 2/7/2017 at 07:45 (2,628 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Todd, do you know a Kevin who lives or lived in Holt? | ||
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