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Thread Number: 69299
/ Tag: Other Home Products or Autos
2nd battery for Toyota-san |
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| Post# 921265 , Reply# 1 2/14/2017 at 08:43 (2,626 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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"Toyota-San"? anything like a "Mazda-Buru"? There actually was a Honda-Zuzu. The first Honda Passport was an Izuzu suv. The Izuzu Ascender was a GMC Envoy. | ||
Post# 921267 , Reply# 2 2/14/2017 at 08:54 (2,626 days old) by Yogitunes  (New Jersey) |
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a few words of wisdom....
don't always go by the dash idiot lights, a gauge would be better to see exactly what amps the alternator is putting out..... if alternator is dead, vehicle would still run, all on battery power, until it dies out.... probably the best test for an alternator, start, and remove the positive side battery cable, it vehicle runs, ALT is OK, if it dies out, ALT needs replaced.... the battery is only there to start the engine, and a few accessories if needed when the engine is not running.....that's about its only purpose... we miss the days of simple troubleshooting for cars...... Sears DieHard used to be one heavy duty battery to have.....buy it once, and never need to again.... | ||
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Post# 921279 , Reply# 3 2/14/2017 at 09:44 (2,626 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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| Post# 921282 , Reply# 4 2/14/2017 at 09:52 (2,626 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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You're right on that martin I absolutely hate idiot lights. I'm betting the alt is good, I may well be wrong but I have confidence in Denso products.
Toyota-san is my pet name for the car. #1 quality all the way, very very good. It drive long time :)
Hi Frig! | ||
| Post# 921284 , Reply# 5 2/14/2017 at 09:55 (2,626 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
 My Jeep Grand Cherokee went trough five, yes count them five Sear's Die-easy batteries in five years.
Alternator was putting out 130 amps, gauge was showing 14 volts input. Battery would not hold a charge. Put the battery on the tester, it would show a dead cell.
Finally I told them, I was tired of being left sitting, that there could not be that many defective batteries we need to find out what is going on.
End of the day, the alternator was putting out it's rated amperage, but it wasn't reaching the battery, because there was a loose negative battery cable attached to the frame. Tightened that down, and no more blown batteries, no more cold days in the parking lot.
I still carry the ready start in the back. It has come in handy this winter helping other stranded motorist, but my Die-easy, is now a Die-Hard. | ||
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Post# 921364 , Reply# 6 2/14/2017 at 17:42 (2,626 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Glad you are on the road again. Years ago, the voltage regulator was often the culprit in these situations. | ||
| Post# 921416 , Reply# 8 2/14/2017 at 22:15 (2,626 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
Tom, i don't know how many voltage regulators I replaced on my old cars but it's de many! Now they make electronic replacement regulators that look the same from outside but they are worse than the original mechanical ones. There are also replacement mechanical voltage regulators that are cheaper and non adjustable. The one in my 1965 Buick Wildcat was never replaced, it's still the original style Delco-Remy. Years ago, I bought a replacement at the GM dealer for another car but it was the exact same as the aftermarket one available at NAPA with the last 3 digits of the GM part number stamped on it and a higher price...
BTW Toyota alternators fail too, I replaced mine twice last year in my Camry (both times, the idiot light came on). They were rebuilt units and the second one was replaced at no charger but I had to remove it... The original one was already gone when I got the car and the Toyota dealership that serviced it didn't bother ordering the original as it's too expensive! I also replaced the alternator in my Toyota pickup years ago but I have done about 100,000 miles since and it's still OK. This one does have a voltmeter to tell if something is wrong. I had other older cars that were equipped with ammeters that weren't very accurate. Some seemed stuck as their needle wouldn't move in any situation, others were pointing "discharge" when everything was fine... | ||
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Post# 921431 , Reply# 9 2/14/2017 at 23:03 (2,626 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 921441 , Reply# 11 2/14/2017 at 23:51 (2,626 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
 I retired the Mighty Geo after 24 years and 270,000 miles. As you know a Geo Prizm is a rebadged Corolla.
How could you retire the Geo? I thought the goal was to have the Mighty Geo That Lived Forever. LOL
(Seriously, though, I'd have been tempted to at least try to hit 300K...assuming the car wasn't facing expensive problems.)
In its place is a shiny black Ford Fusion. It certainly won't last as long, but I don't put as many miles on a car as I used to.
Probably not... But I wonder if even a modern Toyota could do that nearly 300K miles/24 year trick on the MN prairie... If nothing else, there is so much else that can go wrong on a car now vs. 24 years ago. And I recall reading something 25 years ago (roughly) that indicated that Toyota had been overbuilding their cars, and was allegedly considering ways of building cars that weren't quite made to last forever.
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| Post# 921444 , Reply# 12 2/15/2017 at 00:07 (2,626 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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rebadged Corolla I remember in the early 80s when it was announced that GM and Toyota had formed what I think must be the alliance that resulted in Toyotas sold under the GM names (starting with the Chevrolet Nova of the 80s). About that time, we visited my grandmother. Since it was vacation time, I was able to stay up long enough to see a chunk of The Tonight Show at her house. I recall Carson making a crack about the GM/Toyota deal. He said the car they produced would be called the Toilet. (Merger between names. I think the let in Toilet might have come from Chevette.)
I bet neither Toyota nor GM were terribly amused by Carson's crack. LOL | ||
| Post# 921468 , Reply# 13 2/15/2017 at 05:36 (2,625 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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| Post# 921490 , Reply# 15 2/15/2017 at 07:41 (2,625 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
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The N.U.M.M.I. plant did produce Chevy Novas, Prizm, Toyota pickups like mine and the Pontiac Vibe but the Toyota version, the Matrix, was produced in another plant in Cambridge Ontario.
There were some RHD Pontiac Vibe made for export to Japan and rebadged as Toyota Vibe at the N.U.M.M.I. plant but these were not sold here in North America. | ||
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Post# 921497 , Reply# 16 2/15/2017 at 09:12 (2,625 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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Post# 921514 , Reply# 17 2/15/2017 at 10:54 (2,625 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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The Mighty Geo, with 270,000 miles on it, had its original clutch and exhaust system---although truth be told it was getting a bit loud; needed a new muffler. I've never had such a reliable car. Not only was it relatively inexpensive to purchase, it cost very little to repair over its 24 years.
New cars are very high tech! The Prizm didn't even have power windows. The Fusion has advanced traction/stability control, air bags all over the place, hands-free phone and radio controls--it read text messages to me as they came in when I was on the road yesterday---among other things. I have yet to figure out half of it, LOL. | ||
| Post# 921542 , Reply# 18 2/15/2017 at 13:47 (2,625 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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I'm kind of amazed at the Geo going nearly 300K with the original clutch and exhaust system! My father had a late 1980s Honda--and at that time, Hondas were considered by some on a par with Toyota. At 270K, that car had its 3rd clutch, and had had several exhaust systems. Plus lots of smaller repairs. | ||
| Post# 921547 , Reply# 19 2/15/2017 at 14:12 (2,625 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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Hi Frig!! | ||
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Post# 921714 , Reply# 20 2/16/2017 at 05:49 (2,624 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Hi, Ben!
Lord K-- One advantage of living on the vast, flat prairie is that it's easy on clutches. It's so flat out here you could launch a bowling ball down the highway and it would hit pins in the next town, LOL. Had I lived in, say, Seattle, (where the Mighty Geo had been at least a dozen times over the years) the clutch would have had a much shorter life. Problems with the transaxle at highway speeds is what made me take the plunge for a new car. Thought about keeping it to use as an around-town car--using the Fusion for road trips---but it would have had to sit in the driveway and I didn't want to deal with shoveling it out. | ||
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Post# 921749 , Reply# 21 2/16/2017 at 09:42 (2,624 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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Toyota Cavalier | ||
| Post# 921945 , Reply# 23 2/17/2017 at 06:13 (2,623 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Derek, not many Toyota Cavaliers were sold either. I think they were exported CKD (complete knockdown) and assembled by Toyota in Japan. | ||
| Post# 921946 , Reply# 24 2/17/2017 at 06:24 (2,623 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
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Replacing truck frames under warranty has kept dealers busy for many years now. What I don't understand is that they keep replacing them on newer models that were sold new at about the same time the first ones were recalled for buy back or replacement.
I think Toyota sued the company that supplied these frames (Dana?). My 1993 pickup doesn't have this problem, it's two years too old for that! | ||
| Post# 921958 , Reply# 25 2/17/2017 at 07:58 (2,623 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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Dana supplied the frames for the trucks. Not sure what the issue was, not enough rust proofing or shoddy steel? | ||
| Post# 922555 , Reply# 28 2/20/2017 at 10:49 (2,620 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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I have a co-worker with a Sequoia, not sure which year, that needs frame replaced. no word yet on what is going to be done by toyota. | ||
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