Not a fan of modern Standard ovens

.... I am not a fan of modern standard 'conventional' ovens. Ovens made for people that don't want to wait for an oven to pre-heat...

I have this stupid whirlpool wos51ec0as that I put in for the realtor.. Jump forward to the fact that I am now in one of these units... This oven has to go.

When you start preheating the oven, you have to hit the start button again to preheat traditionally for multi-rack baking. What that means is it won't use the broil element to preheat for single rack (rapid pre-heat).

That is all fine and dandy... If it worked like that.. If you change the temp, it goes back to preheat, you have to change the preheat mode again... If you hit the button at the wrong time, the display clears the rapid preheat option, making you think it dismissed it, but it still rapid preheats...

When I make bread, I was taught to do the final proof in the oven for a set time, then start the oven to get that last bit of oven spring...

This oven pisses me off. My mom loves this oven, because it is so large... It looks nice.. but I do not like how this bakes.. It is trying to 'assist' me, or outsmart me, and all it does is burn things because I don't catch it in time when I have something in it.

In this case, I turned the oven on, ran to the bathroom quick, came back, and by that time the damage was already done. Same thing happened at Thanksgiving when I put my sweet potatoes in. Thankfully we all love charred marshmallows but still.

There should be an option to disable 'rapid preheat' by default.

A customer is remodeling their kitchen, I am taking their old working appliances, so I've got a convection Jenn-Air coming in a few weeks from that project. I'll put it in until I get my Mtouch Miele paid off and can take it home.

I wish I would have bumped the realtor up to the convection version of this oven, but they were price-point shopping and I'm stuck with what they paid for.

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Post# 922177 2/18/2017 at 13:33 (2,616 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)
Checkrate/Likes .... I am not a fan of modern standard 'conventional' ovens. Ovens made for people that don't want to wait for an oven to pre-heat... I have this stupid whirlpool wos51ec0as that I put in for the realtor.. Jump forward to the fact that I am now in one of these units... This oven has to go. When you start preheating the oven, you have to hit the start button again to preheat traditionally for multi-rack baking. What that means is it won't use the broil element to preheat for single rack (rapid pre-heat). That is all fine and dandy... If it worked like that.. If you change the temp, it goes back to preheat, you have to change the preheat mode again... If you hit the button at the wrong time, the display clears the rapid preheat option, making you think it dismissed it, but it still rapid preheats... When I make bread, I was taught to do the final proof in the oven for a set time, then start the oven to get that last bit of oven spring... This oven pisses me off. My mom loves this oven, because it is so large... It looks nice.. but I do not like how this bakes.. It is trying to 'assist' me, or outsmart me, and all it does is burn things because I don't catch it in time when I have something in it. In this case, I turned the oven on, ran to the bathroom quick, came back, and by that time the damage was already done. Same thing happened at Thanksgiving when I put my sweet potatoes in. Thankfully we all love charred marshmallows but still. There should be an option to disable 'rapid preheat' by default. A customer is remodeling their kitchen, I am taking their old working appliances, so I've got a convection Jenn-Air coming in a few weeks from that project. I'll put it in until I get my Mtouch Miele paid off and can take it home. I wish I would have bumped the realtor up to the convection version of this oven, but they were price-point shopping and I'm stuck with what they paid for. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 10 View Full Size

Post# 922184 , Reply# 1 2/18/2017 at 13:55 (2,616 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)
Checkrate/Likes That being said... I made this dough, I don't like the flavor of it.. I am trying to find a dough I can use as a universal dough that doesn't have a ton of ingredients and is close to what Texas Roadhouse's roll dough would be. If I can find something like that, I'd love to make Kolaches with it. Here is that dough used in a different form... I over filled the apricot ones and the filling was too runny so I had a mess. The ones that are folded differently, not rolled were poppy seed! yummy Photos... < > Photo 1 of 6 View Full Size

Post# 922186 , Reply# 2 2/18/2017 at 14:14 (2,616 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)
Checkrate/Likes I have a basic GE electric stove that was 2 years old in Dec. It works just like the old fashioned ovens, with the exception of being able to broil with the door closed. The controls are electonic touch pads, which I haven't found to be a problem. When I proof bread in it I turn it on to 225 F for about 30 secs., turn it off and place the dough on the lower shelf. This gives just enough heat to help the dough rise more quickly. This oven bakes more evenly than any I've ever used and the thermostat was true to the set temp from the day it arrived. Yesterday I used the broiler for the first time since I've had the stove to broil some hamburgers. I have never owned a stove that required the door to be closed during broiling, and what a pleasant surprise! No smoke in the house, yey! Since I haven't broiled anything for a long time I kept an eye on it. About 4 mins in the element started to gradually fade from red. I thought, WTF, is this not working? Well, apparently the element is thermostatically controlled to cycle on and off as the max temp is 550 F. I turned the burgers and the element cycled back on. Those burgers were excellent, perfectly broiled to med in 12 mins., 6 per side. No grease splattered on the stove and our house didn't smell of grease. Tomorrow I'm going to broil a nice London Broil that I have marinating. I'm glad I finally gave the broiler a try,it's a winner. I have no use for convection, or all the new options that are now available. I like simple. And since I have asthma I don't want a self cleaning oven because the smoke they generate is obnoxious and unhealthy. It only takes about 30 mins of concentrated effort twice a year to keep the oven clean as I give it a lick and a promise pretty much every time I roast anything that spaltters. Eddie CLICK HERE TO GO TO ea56's LINK

Post# 922193 , Reply# 3 2/18/2017 at 15:05 (2,616 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)
Checkrate/Likes 1 I should rephrase my comment to aim it at this rapid preheat crap people are all wanting. I wish I would have put a basic GE in here, but that basic GE for the size cost more than what I got the whirlpool for. I don't think I'd have the issues I'm having if I had your oven. GE does make a pretty nice oven.