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Quick vids: Speed Queen AWNE92 TL
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Post# 922241   2/18/2017 at 19:01 (273 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        

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Hi guys,

 

Story about this machine: this is the SQ TL I bought from John L while in the USA last year. It was US voltage which has been converted using 240V export parts which John and Jason graciously did for me before it was loaded onto the container.

 

But, I neglected to buy the 240V control board while in the US and it only just arrived this week. So, after swapping out the control board I've done 2 very quick vids.

 

Yes: you'll notice it neutral drains: Australian spec SQ's neutral drain.

 

I've noticed the spin doesn't reach full speed in the spray rinse, only in the final spin.

 

The TL sits proudly next to the Stainless Steel SQ front loader which works beautifully.

 

Cheers

Leon

 

 

 

 





Post# 922245 , Reply# 1   2/18/2017 at 19:11 (273 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Leon, thank you.  I'm surprised USA EPA allowed such a long spin spray rinse.  Did you modify the direction of the spray for the fill flume?  Wonder why Australia requires neutral drain vs. spin drain in U.S. 


Post# 922247 , Reply# 2   2/18/2017 at 19:28 (273 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

I've never ever seen a speed queen do a drain before the spin, this was REALLY interesting to watch and fascinating! Because for the longest time I've seen and heard speed queen commercial coin op units spin drain. Also I notice this machine is a whole hell of a lot quieter then the US models. However I have the same question as the user above, why does it do a neutral drain before the spin?

Post# 922250 , Reply# 3   2/18/2017 at 19:35 (273 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Hi Bob

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Hi Bob,

 

No, I didn't modify the fill flume at all: this is pretty much the same machine as in the US, but with the fitment of the electric drain pump for the neutral drain.

 

As to why it neutral drains: it 'supposed' to assist in getting rid of lint better in the wash process rather than through the dryer. All SQ's going back 20+ years have all been made to neutral drain for the Oz market. Even Maytag Dependable Care's from 1994 were made as neutral drain.

 

Keep in mind the majority of Australian's hang their washing rather than use dryer's.

 

I have Speed Queen / Kleenmaid service documents which document how service agents were given a 'neutral drain kit' to modify spin-drain models that were first sold on the Oz market....in response to customer complaints about 'linting'.

 

Cheers

Leon


Post# 922252 , Reply# 4   2/18/2017 at 19:37 (273 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Leon, thank for you enlightening me.  I keep forgetting not everyone uses tumble dryers world wide. 


Post# 922275 , Reply# 5   2/18/2017 at 21:10 (273 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

That's a neat feature, I kinda wish the US versions also had a neutral drain.

Post# 922294 , Reply# 6   2/18/2017 at 21:57 (273 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

They will pretty soon. They will also have lid locks and linear motors.

Post# 922346 , Reply# 7   2/19/2017 at 08:34 (273 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Love The Neutral Drain

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It is just so much more civilized than slamming all your clean clothing against the wash basket and then forcing all the dirty wash or rinse water through you clean clothing as the washer struggles to get spinning thus turning your clean clothing into a giant lint, scum and grit filter.

 

As many of you remember Whirlpool learned the hard way when they brought out the Direct Drive washers in the early 80s and they tried to take the same short cut that most other TL washer makers to save manufacturing costs. The result was quickly noticed by users, WP was taking back DD washers and giving customers Belt Drive machines. WP had to go back to the drawing board and design a Neutral Drain system into the DD washers.

 

Just this past Monday I ran a Service call on a A7500 DC Maytag washer where the user was complaining about strange light colored stains on dark colored clothing. The Maytag washer was working perfectly, yes they were using too little liquid detergent for our water conditions and washing in cold water in DC in the winter neither of which helps, but the fact remains that in a neutral drain washer you would have never seen this problem.

 

I sure wish SQ would hurry up and do a separate electric drain pump, the biggest mechanical problem we see with SQ TL washers are burned up belts, melted pump drives and melted main drive transmission pulleys from items getting thrown over the wash basked during spin draining and getting stuck between the tubs, we buy the plastic transmission pulleys, belts and water pumps by the dozens.

 

Hi Leon glad you got the washer running, now onto the Maytag Neptune TL.

 

John.


Post# 922399 , Reply# 8   2/19/2017 at 13:01 (272 days old) by Marky_mark (Sitges, Barcelona)        

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Hey Leon

Good to hear you got it up and running. It looks great sitting next to its counterpart SQ FL.

Enjoy
Mark


Post# 922403 , Reply# 9   2/19/2017 at 13:13 (272 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Love the long spray rinse like Bob mentions. Thanks for posting Leon!

Post# 922424 , Reply# 10   2/19/2017 at 17:18 (272 days old) by Streakers (Columbus OHIO!)        
Soooooo

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Does that mean that the new Speed Queens I have sitting in my basement (which I've never even run) - they're the TOL models with the manual timer - will they have a spin drain?

Like Leon - the ones I used to have back in Australia all had a neutral drain run by a separate electric pump... That's what I was kind of expecting in the ones I bought here...

Short of pulling the front cover off - can someone clarify what this beast will do for me?

Cheers
Steve.


Post# 922429 , Reply# 11   2/19/2017 at 17:35 (272 days old) by Mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Hey Steve

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Hey Steve,

I'm almost 100% certain your SQs will spin-drain not neutral drain.

According to the parts manual I ordered all the parts from, the electric drain pump and extra wiring harness required are for Australian spec machines only.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 922434 , Reply# 12   2/19/2017 at 18:18 (272 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
US SQ TL Washers

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It will differently Spin Drain


Post# 922718 , Reply# 13   2/20/2017 at 20:24 (271 days old) by Streakers (Columbus OHIO!)        
Okey Dokey

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Well that's interesting...

Thanks fellas... Leon, I blindly and ignorantly presumed like back home that they would have an electric pump like the ones back home and would have a neutral drain...

I kind of prefer the spin-drain better (seems far more 'exciting') - weird I know, but perhaps I'm just so used to seeing the neutral drain in the Queens back home and want something different... Makes me want to hooks these bad boys up now even more and put them into service..!

Anyone want to come and lug them up the stairs for me?? Carton of beer and a massage in it for them!





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