Thread Number: 69434
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Post# 923092   2/22/2017 at 11:45 (2,590 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Just saw this article. I think the woman is on some mind-altering drug. CLICK HERE TO GO TO appnut's LINK |
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Post# 923094 , Reply# 1   2/22/2017 at 11:56 (2,590 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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The part about cleaning the filter is not bad advice... When I visited Chris' family last May, everyone was kvetching about what a lousy job their dishwasher did, so I checked the filter. It looked like a science project. I went for a tetanus shot and a malaria booster as soon as I could after that. It was extra-nasty and I'd venture a bet that it had not been done since they moved into that house a year earlier.
Funny note, on Sunday night when we had people over, my friend Bev was questioning me as to why I wasn't pre-rinsing anything while loading the KDS54. She told me the salesperson who sold her the latest dishwasher in her kitchen that everything had to be rinsed to and I quote, "keep the filter clean"! I think she has an LG now (her '88 Hotpoint that I installed for her finally gave up the ghost apparently...). |
Post# 923096 , Reply# 2   2/22/2017 at 12:06 (2,590 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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That's "progress" for you thanks to the eco-Nazis. When I read the article I thought to myself if dishwashers still had food choppers (I guess a couple still do?) and used a decent amount of water like they used to cleaning the filter wouldn't be necessary. Furthermore they wouldn't need filters in the first place. And lets face it many people just don't want to be bothered by another thing they have to remember to do and so are lax on maintenance.
Our 1996 GE has a food chopper, doesn't have a filter, and never leaves the dishes dirty. Nothing is ever pre rinsed before loading. And it washes a full load in about 40 minutes. That salesman comment is laughable. Everything has to be pre rinsed to keep the filter clean. So you have to do the work first that the appliance you have to do that job is supposed to do? LOL |
Post# 923097 , Reply# 3   2/22/2017 at 12:24 (2,590 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 923102 , Reply# 5   2/22/2017 at 12:50 (2,590 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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That's why my Kenmore Elite has what Whirlpool developed for the KitchenAid & Kenmore Elite lines--the micro clean filter. It cleans itself. And I'm thankful for that because I couldn't live with a machine with a filter--too difficult to crawl on the floor and fish out the filter in the bottom of the tub. |
Post# 923111 , Reply# 6   2/22/2017 at 13:37 (2,590 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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for the most part, it wouldn't hurt to have a removable sump type of filter basket to capture items like broken glass or items that would destroy/jam the motor or impellor...
you would not believe what items find their way into sumps of dishwashers.... but a fine mesh type to clean the water before it enters the pump.....nonsense....and a PITA to remove and clean... machines like an UltraWash, you would throw food into the dishwasher, just to watch it disappear without a trace!.. |
Post# 923116 , Reply# 7   2/22/2017 at 14:13 (2,590 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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I put some nasty dishes in my Dishwasher.. My lil ole Miele that I have...
I mean I put some NASTY dishes in my dishwasher... I use the Miele detergent tabs and the pots and pans cycle... I check the filter every so often and there isn't much of anything in there except hair... of all things... Every once in a while, the stainless on the door will get a ... haze.. I put a bowl of white vinegar in the dishwasher with a load of stainless and glassware after the dishwasher does the pre-wash.... I might even get a wild hair up my ass and wash stuff that normally isn't ran through all the time and use Cascade Boil out.. that MAY happen 3 times a year... I've never had to scrub my filter, I've never had to pick gunk off of it (except the hair)... It is amazing what hot water and a decent soap/detergent product can do.... |
Post# 923124 , Reply# 8   2/22/2017 at 14:48 (2,590 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Wow....the disinformation is strong in this thread.
I guess what many are forgetting is that "machine cleaners" have existed for decades, and were used fairly often even in the "good ole' days." My.....how we forget the all the boxes of Glisten and Dishwasher Magic that were on the shelves oh so many years ago. Ever since moving out to college, I've used Glisten in every dishwasher in every apartment I've moved to. And these were units with good ole time machines that used 8-10-12 gallons of water! But dang did they still need cleaning, from being full of gook, grime, rust, scale, you name it. It's not just a "lib-tard" phenomena. But hey, if you have to slander and point fingers to help you sleep at night, whatever. I like my modern dishwasher. It never pees on my dishes. It keeps my water bill low. I clean my round mesh filter once a month. I clean my parents' mesh filter out whenever I visit. They're never really that bad and just take a little rinse. Murando has gone over this extensively, and Whirlpool's platform for a few years now doesn't even recommend cleaning their filter more than twice a year unless you subject it to almost sadistic abuse. And their Maytag line still uses a self cleaning accumulator. AND KA and KM's high end lines have totally self cleaning filters still. Oh....and Bosch's mesh filter cups are relatively self cleaning as well. This is practically a non-issue, quantifiably. If you have any iron in your water, or anything above 5 grains of hardness, you're going to eventually HAVE to clean your dishwasher at some point, unless you pre-rinse at Olympic levels. Certain water chemistries and PH levels will or will not rinse cleanly. Yes....the new machines take a bit longer, but they hold more now. I can load it up over 2-3 days and just run it before bed. It's only a minor hassle if you're having a big dinner party. OH well.....not to harp on a highly charged phrase....but I guess the Alternative Facts are pouring freely like the torrents of effluent from a Reverse-Rack drain line. |
Post# 923128 , Reply# 9   2/22/2017 at 14:59 (2,590 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 923135 , Reply# 10   2/22/2017 at 15:07 (2,590 days old) by Joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 923136 , Reply# 11   2/22/2017 at 15:10 (2,590 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 923183 , Reply# 13   2/22/2017 at 17:37 (2,590 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I never seen any of those dishwasher cleaners until recently.....
I remember something along the lines of Rinse-Glo, in a small green foil covered box, but that was for sparkling glassware.... the only trick I ever remember to clean a dishwasher was a tablespoon of TANG added to the machine to help clean it.....or even adding a 1/2 cup of bleach to a cycle.... about the only place I ever seen a build up on a machine, was where the lower bottom/front of the door would close in on the inside, that area never seemed to get a flush during the wash.... I guess certain conditions would cause more build up on machines.... |
Post# 923204 , Reply# 15   2/22/2017 at 18:56 (2,590 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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I use Cascade Platinum , or Cascade professional with phosphates and the inside of my Kitchenaid still sparkles like it was new.
Now I do pull out the rack occasionally and check the pump intake to make sure there isn't any items stuck there, found a cat toy once. My prewash (kitty) died last September so don't have to worry about him sneaking in while I'm loading anymore. This model still has a food chopper, so no filter to clean.
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Post# 923208 , Reply# 16   2/22/2017 at 19:01 (2,590 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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Post# 923232 , Reply# 20   2/22/2017 at 20:28 (2,590 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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your post is hilarious.
I've never used machine cleaners either. But just for the he!! of it sometimes I will run an empty cycle with sugar free lemonade powder that has citric acid. I still have the affresh packet than came with my machine. I also put a little LCB at the start of each load and I think that helps a lot. |
Post# 923253 , Reply# 28   2/22/2017 at 21:51 (2,590 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 923262 , Reply# 29   2/22/2017 at 22:25 (2,590 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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No, this was my Melvin when he was a kitten. We called him pre-wash because he liked to sit in or on the dishwasher and lick the plates while you were loading.
This was also my previous dishwasher.
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Post# 923268 , Reply# 30   2/22/2017 at 23:31 (2,590 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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I second the motion that darlings take the hashing out of belief systems to Dirty Laundry.
My post was attempting to show the vast variability still out there among modern machines and how their scorn is somewhat undeserved. There's a LOT of hard working people out there that try to make those things function well, and people who assembled them and might be proud of them. That's the wonderful thing about machines; they don't care about belief systems. They run on mechanics and pre-programmed algorithms devised by engineers who conducted science processes. All under the direction of physical law. @Mark WP, Haha! Thanks! ;) |
Post# 923275 , Reply# 31   2/23/2017 at 03:26 (2,589 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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"As far as the European thing, I find it pretty hilarious that the Europeans want the American goods and the Americans think the European stuff is the best. It's all really a Matter of preference."
Uh uh! I think that is more an exception than a rule. In general Americans think American appliances are better and Europeans prefer European appliances. Personally I like all appliances, I browse on lots of websites all around the world to see what kind of appliances they have. But most of us stick to what we have and what we know. Our memories are mostly of appliances of our own continent too. And memories is what drives our participation in this website. ;-) |
Post# 923299 , Reply# 33   2/23/2017 at 07:45 (2,589 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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the lady in the back seat isn't in a Chevy either. Look at the head restraint, and you can tell it is neither a vintage 70's USA Ford Granada ESS or Mercury Monarch version by the wide curve above the quarter window in the roof line to the sail panel. |
Post# 923339 , Reply# 35   2/23/2017 at 10:51 (2,589 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes Mike, there are exceptions. At the moment Vitamix blenders are becoming popular here although very expensive. But the general rule is different. Snobbery with expensive appliances not included btw. It makes sense too. It's easier to get an appliance repaired that didn't come from across the big pond. I had a bad experience with a Cuisinart recently. No parts available anymore in this country although the same model is still sold new in the USA.
The lady in the back seat is in a Mercedes W114/W115. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-B... Back from the car into the kitchen now, back to dishwasher maintenance. |