Thread Number: 69784  /  Tag: Detergents and Additives
Making Persil
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Post# 927209   3/16/2017 at 15:07 by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)        

So I've heard from looking around that original persil was a mixture of an oxygen bleach (perborate), an alkaline builder (metasilicate), and soap. I'm also using phosphate in my mix. So I'm going to use either fels or homemade soap and need to know approximate ratios or measurements of oxygen bleach and metasilicate. If anyone know a any thing that might help I'd appreciate it. Thanks all

Post# 927850 , Reply# 1   3/20/2017 at 02:39 by Stan (Napa CA)        

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A thought provoking question.
In a standard powdered detergent, the builder can be as high as 40% of the total weight.
With Persil.. Who knows
So this is just a suggestion but as you experiment to reach a workable formula, measure your ingredients by weights. Start out with a total weight say 16 oz. Create your formula by weight and percentages of each ingredient, so that when you find what works, it can be produced to a large size exactly with no variation.
HTH let us know how you do.
Also, will you be doing this with a TL machine or FL?
And what type of homemade soap? I may be able to help you with that.

Post# 928024 , Reply# 2   3/20/2017 at 22:46 by Stan (Napa CA)        
I Didn't

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Word that very well.
For example, you could do a test batch of say 16oz Total weight.
Soap 8.8 oz (55%)
Perborate 2.4 oz (15%)
Metasilicate 2.4 oz (15%)
STPP 2.4 oz (15%)
If you find this works, you can use those percentages to duplicate the formula to make another 16 ounces, or 50 lbs...

Post# 929160 , Reply# 3   3/27/2017 at 02:55 by Stan (Napa CA)        
What happend with this ?

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Did you come up with anything Mark?

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