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Post# 928032   3/21/2017 at 06:14 (395 days old) by chachp (Conway, AR)        

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What are they washing in this thing?  And what's left over in the soap dish?  And look at the price for a machine in this condition?  Is that really just from hard water?  

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Post# 928035 , Reply# 1   3/21/2017 at 07:21 (395 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Walk-on by baby.

Post# 928037 , Reply# 2   3/21/2017 at 07:27 (395 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        

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We often see DWs in this condition and worse, the first thing the users were doing wrong is they were pre-rinsing their dishes, How do I know this, because this DW was not working properly And the only way it was putting out dishes that were at all clean enough to use was because they were going in clean.


If you use a DW properly always putting visibly dirty dishes you will quickly know when something is not working with your machine.


My Aunt in Pennsylvania had a KDS-18 that was completely black inside, it turned out to have a bad wash-arm-support, bad inlet valve and clogged filter. It was so bad we trashed the DW and installed a new WP DW.

Post# 928057 , Reply# 3   3/21/2017 at 09:56 (395 days old) by chachp (Conway, AR)        
I had no idea pre rinsing did this!

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Not that I would ever have that problem at my house but I really never expected that.  All I could think was how could I eat off of dishes that came out of a machine that looked like that!


Post# 928062 , Reply# 4   3/21/2017 at 11:19 (395 days old) by RevvinKevin (Between Mickey Mouse & the Queen Mary (So. Cal.)        
I know John is adamantly against pre-rinsing, but....

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To be clear. pre-rinsing or pre-washing DOES NOT CAUSE this condition!  


To rephrase what John said, if you load your dishwasher without pre-rinse anything, you will quickly be able to tell if the dishwasher is not operating properly (dishes still dirty after the cycle is done).  This one obviously has not been working correctly for a long time, with all that mold / mildew in it.  Yuk!




Post# 928079 , Reply# 5   3/21/2017 at 14:56 (394 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i think this dishwasher needs a major maitnance and cleaning

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i think this kitchenaid dishwasher is in need of a serious maitnance and major cleaning not only from the inside but the outside as well just my 2 cents here

Post# 928101 , Reply# 6   3/21/2017 at 17:33 (394 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
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I have seen that type of build up on many racks used in poor performing dishmachines. Always caused by improper use, bad machine design, shitty chemicals, lack of maintenance or water heating issues.

Post# 928115 , Reply# 7   3/21/2017 at 18:32 (394 days old) by Gyrafoam (Roanoke, VA)        

Must have quit working and they closed it up and walked away with water in it. Mold went wild.
Clearly worse then repeated use of the Rinse & Mold Cycle.

Post# 928169 , Reply# 8   3/22/2017 at 00:52 (394 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

How can the machine be in "mint" condition when its a mold hole on the inside?Think the seller has been breathing too much of that black mold in there!You would have to PAY me to take that washer-may have to be buried in the hazmat dump!

Post# 928262 , Reply# 9   3/22/2017 at 13:15 (394 days old) by Gyrafoam (Roanoke, VA)        

Spray it with Clorox Clean-Up and it will be gone in two minutes.

Post# 928814 , Reply# 10   3/25/2017 at 07:45 (391 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Kevin, John's Aunt Arlene's policy, which her family followed, was to practically scald the dishes before putting them in the dw. We were sitting outside on the deck when it was started and even from outside you could hear the clunking of the wash arm as it hit the underside of the lower rack as it tried to turn because the wash arm hub and the wash arm support were eroded away. By rinsing the dishes and then using enough detergent to clean dirty dishes, the detergent pulled the oils out of every bit of vinyl, synthetic seal and every bit of plastic. They become literally eaten away. As John said, they had no idea that the dw was not cleaning because tableware went in ostensibly clean.


The dishwasher pictured here probably has similar failures compounded by non-chlorinated detergent which, coupled with lower water temperatures, allowed the mold and slime to grow. The detergent not being washed out of the dispenser is another indication that the wash arm is not turning.

Post# 930034 , Reply# 11   4/1/2017 at 05:24 (384 days old) by chachp (Conway, AR)        
I am just amazed....

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I've been watching this auction since it was originally posted at $125.  They then re-listed for $200 and now has it listed for a Buy It Now at $245.


Is it just me who thinks this is nuts?  Would somebody really buy this machine at that price and attempt to clean it up?


Maybe I should just mind my own business and hope the guy gets lucky but it never ceases to amaze me how some people think they have a goldmine on their hands because something is "Older" or "Vintage."

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Post# 930035 , Reply# 12   4/1/2017 at 06:05 (384 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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"little to no usage"    that's a given!  Can you imagine the smell inside?

Post# 934863 , Reply# 13   4/26/2017 at 23:20 (358 days old) by funktionalart (Phoenix, AZ)        

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I'd save the steel panels and trim kit and set the rest on fire….I have one of those machines, and love it. But as was noted above, this level of mould accumulation is from someone closing the door on a damp and faulty machine and walking away for weeks/months on end. Bet there's a quart of swamp quality water sitting in the sump and drain hose...

Post# 934899 , Reply# 14   4/27/2017 at 06:38 (358 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Pour in

About a gallon of Clorox, and a couple gallons of boiling water and let it run...It will be clean as new in no time.

Post# 935395 , Reply# 15   4/30/2017 at 00:52 (355 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

Screw the Clorox make it a gallon of gasoline and a stick of dynamite!


I wouldn't want to see the home that thing came out of... 

Post# 935417 , Reply# 16   4/30/2017 at 03:06 (355 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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What he ^ said!

Post# 935431 , Reply# 17   4/30/2017 at 06:01 (355 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Stained DW

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The black stains in this DW are not likley mold, they are more likley caused by conditions in the water supply coupled with mechaneal problems with the DW.


This DW could be saved if you wanted to save it, bleach would probably do little or nothing for staining if for example it is caused by magnesium in the water. In any case one should never consider putting a gallon of LCB in a DW, 1/4 cup would be about all you would ever need to sanitize and remove stains that LCB will remove, putting in a gallon will only destroy any rubber parts of this DW that may still be good.

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