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Post# 932035   4/12/2017 at 16:05 (2,562 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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How long was that it sat in the garage.. a few weeks anyways since I posted about getting it.  

 

Anyways. I grabbed and appliance dolly at the Rent-all place yesterday and set my mind to get the damn thing into the laundry room.. thank god I rented that thing.  

 

Took some fanangling, first moving the dryer, then the GE re placed into a corner and the dryer put back in  place.  Naturally the hoses on the GE were welded into place and I'm cursing trying to find the vise grips to loosen them but I did .  

 

Get the Duet in place (where the GE was) and of course the hot water hose was 1/4 inch too short to reach the hot tap.  The cold line was ok.  

 

So I figure before I do any more fussing I better check this thing works.. turn it on. .set to normal, cold/cold, throw in some clothes.. push start and in comes the water and some action.. then pausing, more water, a few times,, after about 5 minutes,, stop.. error code HF... wtf says I..     Look online.. water pressure stuff.  Then I see the manual was in the drawer below so I'm quickly scanning and figure this things needs hot water regardless of being set cold/cold.. As I'm standing there with smoke starting to come out my ears I noticed the faucet on the laundry tub is threaded. voila.. hot water line on there.. restart the machine and away she went.. no fuss, except that I hadn't levelled it properly for the spin cycle was rough but fixed that later.  

 

I've done 3 loads now and can't believe this thing cleans, but it does.. I can't see any water in it while it's washing. And it's so quiet compared to the trusty old FF.. Plus the drying only took half the time.. Have to say I'm impressed so far.. knocking on wood it doesn't break down..  And no I'm not getting rid of the GE. . I'm keeping it for that day this thing does break.  

 

Oh and while I'm doing all this I'm wearing a halter monitor (for heart) checkup for the last 48 hrs.. I'm itching to find out if there were any blips while I was struggling and cursing to get the dam thing in the house.. lol. 





Post# 932039 , Reply# 1   4/12/2017 at 16:38 (2,562 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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forgot the pic  


Post# 932048 , Reply# 2   4/12/2017 at 17:20 (2,562 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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If cold water is too cold, ATC kicks in and adds some warm. 


Post# 932051 , Reply# 3   4/12/2017 at 17:36 (2,562 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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that's great its working for you.....

yeah, many of these newer machines have sensors to detect not only water hooked up and turned on, but also to the correct faucet.....

testing these in the shop can prove difficult, as the techs only hook up to one side of the valve, or a "Y" is used for both....and the machine will still kick an error, as no HOT was detected...

there are many people who have a cold water only hookup for their machine, as that's all they wash with, and will purchase one of these, then to discover an error....


keep us posted to the machine.....and your health!


Post# 932259 , Reply# 4   4/13/2017 at 19:47 (2,561 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Remove the top,look at the pressure switch to see if there are screws that may be turned. If so,you can turn it to readjust its water level. I've had a few and they had that ability. The water would be up as far as the window base. That would make bedclothes come out better.

Post# 932281 , Reply# 5   4/14/2017 at 02:03 (2,561 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
That thing

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has got to be 12 years old. It looks exactly like mine and that's the age mine is this month. It was bought April 2005. It wasn't long after I bought mine that WP changed the design, and I'm not 100% sure, but they stopped making them in Germany shortly after that as well. So that machine is either as old as mine or OLDER. So glad it works & yes, they do CLEAN & rinse very well.

Post# 932282 , Reply# 6   4/14/2017 at 02:50 (2,561 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I was thinking the neighbors bought it after they moved in next door but I found out it was before they moved in so it is older than I was thinking. More than 8 years anyways.. and she's one of those people who washes a load of towels a day pretty much.. each towel and face cloth only gets one use.. hers, the husband and the teen daughter.. that's a lot of daily towels because I'm sure they probably use at least two each if you include one on the floor to stand on.   It won't be getting that sort of use here, maybe once or twice a week at the most. 

 

I think what impresses me most is how quiet it is.. I've never used a front loader before nor have I been around one being used so this is all quite new to me  .    I washed a few things earlier in the day again and the other half walks by and asked if I wanted him to bring me a chair so I didn't have to stand and watch it..lol 


Post# 932287 , Reply# 7   4/14/2017 at 03:42 (2,561 days old) by earthling177 (Boston, MA)        

I remember a few years ago, there was an ad campaign with a guy and his girlfriend in a laundromat -- they were watching the front loading washer work, and the guy says "it's a cinematic blend of color and texture..." and the voice over tries to imply that movies are better than laundry.

I don't remember which year they were running the campaign, but that summer all movies sucked and I actually preferred watching laundry than paying to see their garbage.

;-)


Post# 932355 , Reply# 8   4/14/2017 at 10:27 (2,560 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I just checked the serial # and it is made in Germany

 


Post# 932358 , Reply# 9   4/14/2017 at 10:40 (2,560 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I just checked the serial # and it is made in Germany

Duets of that vintage were.  The S/N will also clarify the question of age.


Post# 932359 , Reply# 10   4/14/2017 at 10:41 (2,560 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, these were made by Bauknecht. Congratulations on a free and working washer!

Post# 932364 , Reply# 11   4/14/2017 at 11:19 (2,560 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Made by Bauknecht

Don't think so. Bauknecht was owned by Whirlpool before the Duets launched, AFAIK.

Post# 932366 , Reply# 12   4/14/2017 at 11:49 (2,560 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Yes dear, I know, since 1989. But these were built in the old Bauknecht plant in Schorndorf, where the old school Bauknechts were built too. No European Whirlpool was built there.

Post# 932368 , Reply# 13   4/14/2017 at 12:31 (2,560 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Serial # is CSS3906351  type 199,  model GHW9150PW1


Post# 932369 , Reply# 14   4/14/2017 at 12:44 (2,560 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
I have the newer style

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Mine is Maytag branded, but still a Whirlpool.  Mine was bought in 2009, and the tag still says "Made in Germany".    At that time they were either sharing manufacturing, or were switching over, as some of the same models were being made in Mexico.

 

The salesperson, said I was better off with the German built machine, as they were experiencing problems from the ones coming from south of the border.   Mine are going on eight years, and I have been happy with the performance--well except the repair bill on the dryer recently. 

 

My understanding, from what was on the Whirlpool website at the time.  These machines were a Bauknecht design, and the reason Whirlpool purchased Bauknecht was for the front load washer. 

 

 


Post# 932370 , Reply# 15   4/14/2017 at 12:49 (2,560 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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2004 model year, produced 39th week of 2005.

 

I think the Duet Sport models were always produced in Mexico, and maybe the Kenmore HE2?


Post# 932371 , Reply# 16   4/14/2017 at 12:56 (2,560 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        
Thanks for the date

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So it's had at least a good 10 year run . 


Post# 932393 , Reply# 17   4/14/2017 at 14:06 (2,560 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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same as the model i have in my home if you went to use more water the cycle for more water is heavy duty the whitest white cycle is for bleachables

Post# 932421 , Reply# 18   4/14/2017 at 18:26 (2,560 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
If I remember

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Mine was produced in Fall of 2004. And it did have the board replaced during the 2nd year I believe. But since then, it's been perfect. The matching Duet dryer has never had a problem, which I find amazing since my dryer vents through the roof. Once in a while, my duet washer squeaks when tumbling back and forth (a very slight squeak in one direction, not the other), but then it will stop. It's done this for years. The dryer squeaks too until it warms up, then it stops.

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Post# 932424 , Reply# 19   4/14/2017 at 18:33 (2,560 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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My Duet was built in 2011 and is the first Direct Drive that's produced in Michigan. 


Post# 932484 , Reply# 20   4/15/2017 at 00:44 (2,560 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

My first Duet is a step up model from Mark's, has a few more options.  It's a GHW 9250mt2  Serial # CSr 1801546 -- any idea on Manf. date on this one?

 

Been a very solid machine, got is used almost 7 years ago.  No issues.  Have a couple of newer versions both have/had bearing issues. Got the almost matching dryer( it's white the washer is bisque..) and it needed a fair amount of work, new gas valve was a pain to put in.

 

 

Edit: hit google looks like mine was built in 2005, 18th week...  It's 12 year birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks!


Post# 932572 , Reply# 21   4/15/2017 at 18:20 (2,559 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Matt

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You still have that duet, but I saw you mention you've had a couple of newer versions that had bearing issues. Could you elaborate on that? Thanks

Post# 932843 , Reply# 22   4/17/2017 at 00:22 (2,558 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Hey Pete, you never showed me the Duet or that Panasonic upright! LOL I might have taken that one home.

Post# 933053 , Reply# 23   4/18/2017 at 00:01 (2,557 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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It just dawned on me that this thing has no readily accessible lint trap and you have to remove the bottom plate to get at it.. That's a concern as my GE filter flo pan always had a goodly amount of wet dog hair after each load.  Why the hell wouldn't they have put an access door down there.   


Post# 933055 , Reply# 24   4/18/2017 at 00:13 (2,557 days old) by earthling177 (Boston, MA)        

Pete,

As far as I can tell, there is a class of people who thinks that either cleaning lint is inconvenient, or that it is sometimes gross.

I used to have a housemate back in early 90's that not only would pick up the FilterFlo's pan with the tip of his fingers, he would shake and bang the thing against the trash can until the ball of lint would fall off. It was worse with the dryer's lint filter, because the screen would tend to grab and hold the lint.

We used to poke fun at him, that the lint was washed, rinsed and dried or, worse, that the lint was clearly just as clean (or dirty) as his clothes. He would just make a noise like he was grossed out and not touch it.

One way or another, I have the impression that people write so much to consumer's magazines complaining about anything that doesn't have self-cleaning filters that the magazines downgrade stuff with manual clean filters.

I believe that is one of the reasons we've been witnessing the disappearance of lint filters in washers.   ;-)

Cheers,
   -- Paulo.


Post# 933062 , Reply# 25   4/18/2017 at 02:00 (2,557 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Mark, My daily driver Duet is a couple of years younger than the original I got.  I replaced the bearings in it when I first got it and it has been fine for years.  I'm noticing a bit of noise now, I think it may be has a leak around the seal and the bearings are starting to go.  It's been a fine machine too, has a heater that I do use occasionally.

 

I also have a more TOL unit ( it has night mode, and a rinse selection button)  that needs a bit of work, much of it my own fault.  I replaced the bearings but I did not set them back far enough in the housing.  Did not notice it and when I rehung the tub assembly the shaft is too short to attach the flywheel and nut.  It was set tightly and I got frustrated and banged the shaft with a hammer to try and loosen it -- bad move.  I messed up the threads on the shaft.  It will take some time with a file to get them bach to usable so it's been sitting for a number of months.  I have been looking forward to trying it out, someday....


Post# 933065 , Reply# 26   4/18/2017 at 02:12 (2,557 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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PeteK:  It just dawned on me that this thing has no readily accessible lint trap and you have to remove the bottom plate to get at it.. That's a concern as my GE filter flo pan always had a goodly amount of wet dog hair after each load.  Why the hell wouldn't they have put an access door down there.
Whirlpool's policy due to consumer liability concerns.

Current models no longer have a separate lower panel.  The entire front panel must come off for access to the pump trap ... including control panel and detaching the door boot.

I replaced the pump a few years ago on a friend's HE3 (which is now nearing/at 14 years old).  She fosters rescue dogs, runs TONS of critter laundry.  Only repair it has had to my knowledge.  I was surprised to find NO hair in the pump trap on her machine.  A couple coins and candy wrappers.


Post# 933066 , Reply# 27   4/18/2017 at 02:26 (2,557 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Complete front has to come of

As long as the machine isn't on a pedestal, could it be possible to tilt the machine backwards to a 45° angle and then try to loosen the entire pump housing assembly?

Wonder if that would be quicker or just as much of a hazzle...


Post# 933102 , Reply# 28   4/18/2017 at 08:30 (2,557 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Well that's a crazy policy.  I guess time will tell if it eventually clogs up , hopefully not. 


Post# 933107 , Reply# 29   4/18/2017 at 08:59 (2,556 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
It seems like

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The "trap" is for larger items, buttons, coins, hamsters, than lint.

 

I check mine at least once a year, and have never found anything beyond a stray hair in almost eighty years.

 

I think Whirlpool hides it behind the panel more to generate a service call if needed, than liability.  Even though it is fairly easy to check. Just remove the panel (4) screws, the pump can be lifted over the cross member so when you open the port the water left in the sump will drain into a bucket. 

 

I then just wash out the inside, inspect for leakage and button it all back up.

It takes a bit longer than opening a trap door, but not too bad.  I would not like the newer models where the entire front has to be removed.

 


Post# 933237 , Reply# 30   4/18/2017 at 22:43 (2,556 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I agree that it IS

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a dumb policy not to have an easily accessible lint trap!
I'm the only one that does laundry and I would take off the bottom panel and check it and there was never anything there but a small piece of lint so I stopped doing it a long time ago. But I've seen pictures/videos online of people taking their's off and it was disgusting and packed full of crap. It's kind of mind boggling to me since every other brand on the market has the super easy accessible square panel in the front, EXCEPT WHIRLPOOL!

Even me being as careful as I am, I've still managed to wash a small screw driver and a couple of wrapped up paper towels in pants pockets that I somehow missed over the years.


Post# 933283 , Reply# 31   4/19/2017 at 01:04 (2,556 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Well if you've ever had the rubber backing disintegrate in  the washer you will want access to that pump.  Happened to me a while back - what a diaster.  The rug did not look to be in bad shape when I put it in, and did not set the machine for any hot or heavy duty options, but the backing all crumbled.  The tub was full of water and it started gushing out as soon as I pullet the pump's clean out.  Had to empty the filter quickly and reinsert it.  Unfortunately I had to clean the filter  a number of times, glad it was in the basement and the floor tile is quite durable as it made quite a mess.


Post# 933311 , Reply# 32   4/19/2017 at 08:04 (2,556 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
My previous post:

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Typo--should read eight (8) years, not eighty years.  Now that would be an old front loader, wouldn't it?


Post# 933316 , Reply# 33   4/19/2017 at 08:25 (2,556 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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I used one of these with an onboard heater and I found the Whitest Whites cycle worked really well.  A long, very hot wash with 3 rinses (using extra rinse, I think) with good spins between wash and rinses.  Although the rinses were at low water level.

 

The "Normal" cycle wasn't sufficient with its very short wash time.  It left the underarms of shirts smelling differently to the rest of the shirt.  Whereas the Heavy Duty cycle worked very well.  A bit noisy but a pretty good machine.  Matching gas dryer worked well but obviously didn't reverse and therefore balled bedding.  I guess Petek's doesn't have a heater whereas Mark's does.


Post# 933342 , Reply# 34   4/19/2017 at 10:39 (2,555 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Joining this late & comment on Paulo's Post# 932287

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We had some GE's - washer and dryer - brand new in 2005. Until we had the issue of mold and believe me we tried all the prescribes to avert mold-a-mania, we liked those front-load GE's. I managed to clean them up (no mold), and sold them. Personally, I like all washers, top and front loads - you can't beat FREE.

I'm glad you got it working, minus any injuries. Just think, there's probably many others like this just sitting at the curb waiting for its fate.

I didn't know that about the needed hot water source.

Our cat used to LOVE our Frigidaire front loaders we had before the GE's. Do you guys have any animals that will watch the ENTIRE wash cycle? Our Manx would. It was so damn cute. I sure miss our laundry watcher. Here's a photo from our cat calendar, some of you might enjoy. I love dogs, as well, but will they watch laundry from start to finish on a front loader???


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Post# 933351 , Reply# 35   4/19/2017 at 11:26 (2,555 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Speaking of Duet Error Codes :FREE(DUET) OLD WASHER (Sparta)

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Post# 933990 , Reply# 36   4/23/2017 at 02:43 (2,552 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Look at the state

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that thing is in. But hey, it's free. But it could be a pile of free junk too - who knows? My experience is that if you are getting ANY ERROR CODE, it's usually the board that needs replace. But probably not in all cases. But that was the case with mine on year 2. I was getting error F-DL (door latch). The error code means something is wrong with the door latch, right? WRONG! It was replaced with a brand new door latch and that did absolutely NOTHING. Second attempt at fixing it was the tech jiggled the wires, which made it work for another month but then it started doing F-11 AND F-DL... Last trip, the tech replaced the board and worked fine ever since. So anytime someone has an error code at all, I'm very suspicious of it being anything BUT the control board.

I guess someone could go get it and try to replace the board. But then considering the shape that looks, who knows how it's been treated all these years. It could have other problems like mold or bearings/spider.


Post# 933998 , Reply# 37   4/23/2017 at 06:10 (2,552 days old) by Ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
WP Dreamspace FL won't start.

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I am waiting for a replacement door catch as the one on the machine was broken no doubt forced open when locked as the hook inside was in bits. I repaired the original did a 95c wash to get rid of the smell from not being used for 5 years it worked perfectly, however the catch I repaired broke again and since fixing it again it just flashes the start light as if the door is open when its not does this now mean the board is fried and so putting the new one on won't make any difference?
Hope its fixable as it was extremely difficult getting in my house as its on a drawer.



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