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Thread Number: 70577
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Intersting WP Belt drive washer |
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| Post# 935156 4/28/2017 at 15:03 (2,547 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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This immediately reminded me of the newer WP Top loads...except it features all mechanical controls...I feel like this would've satisfied more people if they went to this design. Agitation and spin looks very strong too. Thoughts? | ||
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| Post# 935157 , Reply# 1 4/28/2017 at 15:08 (2,547 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 935176 , Reply# 2 4/28/2017 at 17:40 (2,547 days old) by jamiel  (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 935178 , Reply# 3 4/28/2017 at 17:42 (2,547 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 935232 , Reply# 4 4/29/2017 at 00:54 (2,546 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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For a direct drive--THIS would be the one to get!!Not blender like as the other DD's are. | ||
| Post# 935233 , Reply# 5 4/29/2017 at 00:54 (2,546 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore) | ||
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interesting on how this machine pauses briefly during the spin and coasts for a moment or two then it engages the basket again and revs back up to full speed. The pump runs the entire time but the motor that drives the basket doesn't | ||
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Post# 935246 , Reply# 6 4/29/2017 at 06:17 (2,546 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 935267 , Reply# 8 4/29/2017 at 08:26 (2,546 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Mechanical Controlled World Washer These came out in the later 80s in 24" wide and 22" cabinet models. It is belt driven, they washed well and spun around 800 RPMs.
Unfortunately durability of the main seal was always a problem much like many of WPs and GEs offerings today, once the seal leaks the main bearings are toast and the machines are not easily repairable so 99% of the time they just get junked when the seal starts to fail. " GE is using a drive system like this in their 24 " & 27 " top load stacks the last five years and these machine are dropping like flies, many people have not even gotten two years out of them, GE is replacing the entire machine at a reduced price if you complain. | ||
| Post# 935269 , Reply# 9 4/29/2017 at 08:56 (2,546 days old) by brucelucenta () | ||
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app nut It really is a belt driven unit. I have seen one of these before too. | ||
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Post# 935437 , Reply# 10 4/30/2017 at 06:35 (2,545 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Belt drive
Had the Kenmore compact portable electronic version- loved it for what it was. Personally it did a better job at cleaning than the DD in the laundry room. Fitted a lot of clothes for a compact- and I mean a lot- almost the full size DD amount! Impossible to get suds lock on that critter. I know because I goofed multiple times adding the DD with prewash amount. How did I get ahold of one? Found it by the dumpster one day only a year old. I had to roll it into my condo- it was like a command from God LOL. Turned out it would not drain because it had a hair pin in the pump- very stereotypical. Over all I have to say I was using it more than my full size DD, rolling it up to the sink just to do laundry.
The machine had one major flaw that ultimately had me give it away in 2011. When ever it would stop from spinning, it would literally physically spin around 180+ degrees. The cabinet was simply to light for the heavy spinning tub. It would often damage the sink as it would tug violently at the coupler. Had to hold and bracade the thing at times. Thought about removing or oiling the break band which I did (oiled it generously)- it helped- but backfired as the tub would spin half way in agitate. Although I did later on find out it was a mistake to give up on that machine- the new control boards actually allotted for a 30 second coast down before engaging the break band. Could have gotten one of those, but I was already into other machines. If you guys ever find on, its certainly by far the best portable ever made- and yes it does clean better and is gentler than a regular DD. Apartment folks don't know what the full size folks are missing lol. :) | ||
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Post# 935440 , Reply# 11 4/30/2017 at 06:50 (2,545 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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No clutch
At least my model. The motor in the first 2 minutes of spin would start and stop- completely normal- most likely to let the small pump catch up. Remember that these had to spin what was practically a full size DD amount of clothing water through a restricted adapter. Overall great design, and I am esthetic to see this was produced in a full size (I think) cabinet for the Spanish market.
Personally I think Whirlpool should have skipped the DD altogether and gone right to producing this in apartment size, the size seen in the vid, and the DD size common to everyone. Not only would it have been cheaper, it would be easy to beef up the seals as I've heard complaints on here about them. I guess the only factor might have been the electronic pulsing of the motor- but again I'd imagine that even in the late 80s that could have been off set by all the material saved on the case transmission and metal frame. At times I feel like domestic machines either spend way to much on raw material, or don't yet produce a machine that fails prematurely when it does not have to. | ||
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Post# 935447 , Reply# 12 4/30/2017 at 08:04 (2,545 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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the idea of the spin-pause-spin as noticed on the VMW machines, with the spinning tub, air currents keep the water stuck to the outer tub and spinning with the load, and the pause allows the water to fall to the bottom so it can drain, and then spin concludes....
I know some of the newer outer tubs have tiny vanes built into the walls, so the water will not spin with the load, but fall down instead.... | ||
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Post# 935450 , Reply# 13 4/30/2017 at 08:17 (2,545 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Water spinning with the load | ||
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Post# 935471 , Reply# 15 4/30/2017 at 10:51 (2,545 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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| Post# 935496 , Reply# 16 4/30/2017 at 13:30 (2,545 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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I love that these have the brake at the end of the spin...something the present VMW units don't. Tbh, I feel like they might bring this design back soon considering how problematic the VMW design still is, not to mention the how well it washes. | ||
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Post# 935499 , Reply# 17 4/30/2017 at 13:43 (2,545 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 935611 , Reply# 18 5/1/2017 at 01:01 (2,544 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore) | ||
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What does VMW stand for? I know it has to do with the the machines after the direct drives but not sure what it translates to. | ||
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Post# 935615 , Reply# 19 5/1/2017 at 02:01 (2,544 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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