Thread Number: 70673
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
New Kenmore 4.7 cu ft triple action agitator washer with steam |
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Post# 936471 , Reply# 2   5/5/2017 at 06:43 (2,546 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 936485 , Reply# 4   5/5/2017 at 08:32 (2,546 days old) by wishwash (Indiana)   |   | |
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Joeypete, would you mind taking a short video washing a normal load on the auto sensing water level? I'm curious so see how turnover is with everyday garments. It seems to do alright with towels in the video you posted a while back. |
Post# 936500 , Reply# 5   5/5/2017 at 10:22 (2,546 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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How can having "steam" in a top load washer be anything more than a marketing gimmick? I mean HOW can it actually do anything other than fog up the window glass in the lid?
> The upper part of the tub and lid would have to be completely sealed (like a FL washer) to prevent steam escaping. Granted this is not impossible, but it adds to the cost of the machine and manufacturers try to spend as little as absolutely possible, so they can make as much as possible.
> A completely sealed tub / lid could possibly create another issue if the user always left the lid closed when not in use. I would think residual moisture might lead to a potential mildew problem, like in a front loader. Granted the upper tub seal wouldn't have water splashing on it, but steam/moisture would certainly condense there.
> Clothes would be settled/packed at the bottom of the tub, especially if they have already been saturated with water. Lest we forget steam rises, thus, no way to penetrate garments at the bottom of the tub. At least in a front load washer the tub fills with steam and the garments tumble through it. This cannot happen in a TL washer.
> If the machine has already "filled" with water, garments would be "mostly" under water and steam would have NO effect on anything IN the water, UNLESS its injected at the bottom of the tub, bubbling it up through the garments like a jacuzzi. (a fake boil-wash? haha)
Whether it's an impeller or "triple action agi-peller" machine (same difference in my book), I do not see how steam in a top load washer like this can be of any possible benefit to anyone other than the manufacturer charging more for the machine.
Kevin
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Post# 936502 , Reply# 6   5/5/2017 at 10:50 (2,546 days old) by yoblount (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 936506 , Reply# 7   5/5/2017 at 11:03 (2,546 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Every "steam" washer I've seen DOES have a steam injection system, that's exactly what it means! It has nothing to do with heating or maintaining the temp of the wash water.
I have one FL washer (KM He5t) with a heater AND steam and 2 others with heaters only, no steam. The He5t can heat the water w/o steam, OR use steam w/o heating the water. These other two are not labeled as having "steam" because they do not have the steam injection system.
Also, there are no top load washers in the US market with heaters to heat or maintain wash water temps. This post was last edited 05/05/2017 at 11:19 |
Post# 936507 , Reply# 8   5/5/2017 at 11:06 (2,546 days old) by appliancedude16 (Sunnyvale,California, U.S.A)   |   | |
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They probably put in the steam after a little water is added. -Appliancedude16 |
Post# 936508 , Reply# 9   5/5/2017 at 11:08 (2,546 days old) by appliancedude16 (Sunnyvale,California, U.S.A)   |   | |
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They probably put in the steam after a little water is added. -Appliancedude16 |
Post# 936561 , Reply# 10   5/5/2017 at 14:32 (2,546 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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From watching videos on YouTube, the TOL Cabrio creates its "steam" by adding some pure hot water to the tub some time during the main wash and pauses, while slowly turning the tub with the heater engaged, to raise the temperature of the water a little. The LG top loaders work just the same (turning the tub for an hour+, while "heating" gallons and gallons of water at ~900 watts). That's really all a steam top loader can do.
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Post# 936570 , Reply# 11   5/5/2017 at 14:48 (2,546 days old) by yoblount (TX)   |   | |
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Here is the description of the "Steam Clean" option of the top load Whirlpool Cabrio WTW8500DW. My MIL has the Kenmore version.
STEAM CLEAN The Steam Clean option adds additional soak and wash time to many cycles to help remove tough stains, as well as a steam boost for added cleaning power. Steam Clean uses a heater within the washer to maintain the selected temperature setting throughout the wash period. Steam Clean may be selected as an option with other cycles. Link to the manual: www.whirlpool.com/content... |
Post# 936575 , Reply# 12   5/5/2017 at 15:09 (2,546 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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News to me some TOL TL washers now have (weak) heaters in the US market. I stand corrected, thank you.
I don't pay close attention to these top load impeller washers, because I've used a couple and I would still never buy one. I am just not impressed, or convinced they aren't harder on the clothes.
However these are still not a true "steam" washer as FL "steam" washers are, it's just a misuse of the term (all marketing). |
Post# 936576 , Reply# 13   5/5/2017 at 15:10 (2,546 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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but it just seems, as mentioned, that SteamClean option just heats the water....
not a true steam generator that would blast the clothing with steam like an iron or clothing steamer would do... very vague on description of stuff like this....for example, how hot does the water get if you select hot, or add the steam option.....I am just looking for temps higher than what my water heater can deliver...for the price you pay, it better! in fact, I just checked, my water heater is delivering 180 degrees at the sink.....most machines I have seen will only raise or keep the water at 140 degrees at the most.... |
Post# 936728 , Reply# 14   5/6/2017 at 06:55 (2,545 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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