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Thread Number: 70797
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Persil Pearls (US) Discontinued |
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| Post# 937689 5/11/2017 at 07:23 (2,535 days old) by mamapinky (blairsville pa) | ||
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The Pearls will no longer be sold in the US but the liquids and caps will. Someone on Houzz just posted a pic from the question section on Persils Facebook page. Cheryl | ||
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| Post# 937691 , Reply# 1 5/11/2017 at 07:29 (2,535 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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I have not tried the pearls. They have been absent form local store shelves for some time here. I like the liquid though. I buy the original scent, two in one. It reminds me of how Oxydol smelled. Not perfumy, just fresh. | ||
| Post# 937695 , Reply# 2 5/11/2017 at 08:03 (2,535 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
 We had a discussion not long ago re: Persil. I, like others, thought that there was a re-set in the product line coming when our local stores was clearanceing some of the items.
I have tried the Pearls twice now with less than great results. I experienced the white towels, only the towels graying. Wash them in Tide and they are white again. It may be an interaction with our local water, or the type of cotton in the towels, but this was my experience. Maybe others were having a bad experience as well, or maybe they just weren't selling as well.
I have had good results with the other variants of their liquids and the pods. | ||
Post# 937702 , Reply# 3 5/11/2017 at 08:11 (2,535 days old) by askolover  (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 937741 , Reply# 4 5/11/2017 at 11:41 (2,535 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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 They're still for sale here in Ontario. I bought a bottle of them a week or so back to try . Hard to say how good they are since we don't have much "whites" or anything that gets really dirty or stained. It was more a fun factor purchase . tbh I usually get buy with a bottle of Xtra or Arm&Hammer for $2. from a discount store. | ||
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Post# 937746 , Reply# 5 5/11/2017 at 13:13 (2,535 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Post# 937758 , Reply# 6 5/11/2017 at 14:01 (2,535 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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| Post# 937794 , Reply# 8 5/11/2017 at 16:24 (2,535 days old) by washmeup (scottsdale) | ||
Persils Pearls | ||
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Post# 937800 , Reply# 9 5/11/2017 at 16:52 (2,535 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Persil Pearls: | ||
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Post# 937845 , Reply# 10 5/11/2017 at 19:33 (2,535 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 937859 , Reply# 11 5/11/2017 at 20:26 (2,535 days old) by dsimonl (Portland, OR) | ||
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Well drat! I just recently discovered them. My whites have never been cleaner. Luckily they are still available online. Just ordered 6 more. | ||
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Post# 937906 , Reply# 13 5/11/2017 at 23:52 (2,535 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 938082 , Reply# 16 5/12/2017 at 19:35 (2,534 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Post# 938096 , Reply# 17 5/12/2017 at 20:07 (2,534 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 938102 , Reply# 18 5/12/2017 at 20:20 (2,534 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"There are at least two kinds of Persil Megaperls from Henkel, Germany: there is one for colors and one for whites (or Universal). There may be more, I have not kept current. "
Was nosing around German consumer testing website reading their comparison between "color" detergents and those with bleaching agents. It was their opinion that the bleaching systems in Persil "Universal" and one assumes other similar products would bleach colors with repeated use. www.test.de/Colorwaschmit... Of interest Ariel and Tandil detergent concentrated/ultra/perls sold in Germany beat Persil megaperls in test rankings. However when it came to just powders, Persil "Universal" beat Ariel. www.testberichte.de/a/waschmittel... | ||
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Post# 938149 , Reply# 20 5/12/2017 at 21:15 (2,534 days old) by Logixx (Germany) |
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Concentrated vs. just powder
When purchasing laundry detergent in Germany, one must differentiate between "compact" and regular powders. Concentrated or compact powders are usually sold in plastic bags, while regular powders are sold in cardboard boxes (sometimes touting 100+ loads). The unfortunate thing is that manufacturers add a lot of fillers to the regular detergents and frequently less active ingredients. That is why all "large box detergents" received worse tests scores than their concentrated counterparts. P&G's Ariel was the most noticeable case: Ariel Compact did excellently, while the formula in the large box failed completely.
Personally, I never cared for the Megaperls because some always get stuck in the dispenser, while powder dispenses without problems. OT: over here, Henkel has released three new Vernel flavors called Vernel Suprême that are "inspired by fine French perfume", as well as a liquid "sauber und glatt" that's supposed to make ypur laundry "clean and smooth" by making ironing easier. | ||
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Post# 938186 , Reply# 21 5/13/2017 at 00:51 (2,534 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"clean and smooth" by making ironing easier"
Fabric softeners or conditioners have been making that claim for years now. To an extent it is true, but one supposes modern formulations have added something extra.
Laundries use fabric softener/conditioner if things aren't going to be starched to help things feed easily through ironers/mangles. P&G offered Downy "Advanced" which was great for smoothness/wrinkle free laundry. Thing one remembers is that when laundry was spun after final rinse with the stuff, water had a sort of foamy look which was interesting. Anyway it didn't last. By the time finished one bottle and went to look for more, Downy Advanced was discontinued. ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/244... | ||
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Post# 938189 , Reply# 22 5/13/2017 at 02:31 (2,534 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Wouldn`t surprise me at all if Persil Megaperls were gone for good in the US.
Henkel`s Persil is not the well known market leader for over a century in the US as it has been here. As a newcomer it might be a wise move to focus on products that actually sell and as a matter of fact powders are not that popular anymore in the US as they used to be. Then if you don`t follow the "start filling washer, add detergent, add clothes" routine for TLs you might end up with spot bleaching which means the clothes are ruined. New TLs might have lid locks which don`t allow for a tried and true routine so I guess they decided to go the "follow washing machine instructions for adding detergent" path. Anyway, spot bleaching doesn`t shine a good light on a new product and as a newcomer they probably can`t afford a single unhappy customer. Launderess while your`re absolutely right that FS has always been beneficial for ironing, I think Alexander was referring to a new Persil liquid detergent that claims to lessen the need for ironing. No idea how that is accomplished haven`t had a look at the ingredients so far, might be polymers, I don`t know. Besides of that there are a few new upscale Vernel versions out now. This post was last edited 05/13/2017 at 03:27 | ||
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Post# 938195 , Reply# 23 5/13/2017 at 04:49 (2,533 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Have noticed the shelf space given Persil products has shrunk dramatically at the HyVee grocery store I frequent. The pacs and pearls are gone. ProClean and ProClean 2-in-1 liquids are still on offer, but have been downsized to one row each on the bottom shelf. Quite a demotion for what is considered a premium detergent. There used to be several rows of each variation on the prime real estate arm-level shelf.
I use only the ProClean 2-in-1 version, as CR scores it substantially higher for stain removal that regular Pro-Clean and other Persil variations. Always thought the pearls might migrate to the boot of my front-loader. Anyone found that to be true? | ||
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Post# 938202 , Reply# 25 5/13/2017 at 05:54 (2,533 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 938221 , Reply# 26 5/13/2017 at 06:21 (2,533 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Gone from Walmart
So that's it then, isn't it? If where it all began no longer stocks the power pearls, then it's official.
www.walmart.com/ip/Persil... Still you never know; Persil is known for stain removal and outstanding whiteness; something you cannot get in certain instances from a liquid alone. Nearly every European consumer testing group is unanimous; liquids/gels are not good for badly marked laundry. As such cannot imagine Henkel is going to allow Tide to remain #1 as it were when it comes to that area. I mean how can a laundry detergent brand claim to go against P&G when it cannot beat TWB? Thus mayhaps Henkel has called a "time out" while looking to solve some of the issues with Power-Perls. Simple solution would simply make the stuff a compact powder as Persil is sold also in Germany. Pulver ist besser! www.test.de/Waschmittel-P... | ||
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Post# 938268 , Reply# 28 5/13/2017 at 10:57 (2,533 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 938323 , Reply# 30 5/13/2017 at 17:21 (2,533 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA) |
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Laundress should have her own sydicate in either a newspaper or webcast. I enjoy reading your posts very much and always look forward to them. | ||
| Post# 938330 , Reply# 31 5/13/2017 at 17:37 (2,533 days old) by iej (.... ) | ||
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Maybe a YouTube channel sponsored by Tide or Persil :D | ||
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Post# 938364 , Reply# 32 5/13/2017 at 19:29 (2,533 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Mark my words | ||
| Post# 938515 , Reply# 33 5/14/2017 at 15:40 (2,532 days old) by wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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I've never been a fan of Persil. It cleans OK but I don't like the scent at all. If only we had a detergent exchange here, it would save that bottle from just sitting in my laundry room! | ||
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Post# 938530 , Reply# 34 5/14/2017 at 17:42 (2,532 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Here are some pics of Henkel products at our local drugstore. It seems all the inventory of Persil and Perwoll was somehow shoved into the detergent aisle (and I didn't even take a picture of everything).
Besides the three Vernel scents, there are also new Persil Sensitive Pods with "real soap and almond milk". | ||
| Post# 938611 , Reply# 35 5/15/2017 at 06:53 (2,531 days old) by iej (.... ) | ||
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Just looking at the shelf price tickets there in Germany. That's running at considerably less than half the price of equivalent Unilever Persil here in Ireland. | ||
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Post# 938620 , Reply# 36 5/15/2017 at 08:20 (2,531 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Methinks Henkel/Persil Is Feeling The Heat
Now that many German consumer testing sorts along with Internet chat have said you can get just as good results with cheaper products, such as Aldi's detergents.
Same here really with P&G. Tide began stumbling during last recession when many consumers were forced by financial circumstances to look elsewhere. Funny thing was most discovered that other products cleaned just as well as Tide for less. One used to rarely see Tide on sale, nowadays however you cannot help but to find most versions on special offer somewhere. If one plans ahead and stocks up..... | ||
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Post# 938687 , Reply# 37 5/15/2017 at 15:53 (2,531 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Discounter brands have been almost as good as / as good as / sometimes even better than the "big name" products from Henkel or Procter for years now. This holds true for laundry and dishwasher detergents. Why pay 25 Cents per load when using Persil Megaperls 360° Cleanliness and Care... when I can get the same clean for just 11 Cents from Aldi etc.?
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Post# 938688 , Reply# 38 5/15/2017 at 16:14 (2,531 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Laundry detergent market is what one would call "mature&
Like toothpaste, toilet tissues and a host of other products there is only so much you can do to differentiate one from another.
Leaving aside proprietary and or patented bleaching and whatever systems most detergents pretty much are the same under the bonnet. What changes are the endless variations of scent and promised qualities. Persil from Germany attained near cult status here in USA because there was nothing like it on market. Especially if one owned a front loader from Europe such as Miele. It really has only been rather recently that American detergents have dropped high frothing ingredients for instance in favor of "HE". As others have frequently pointed out there is nothing "special" about Persil in its native territory. | ||
| Post# 938764 , Reply# 39 5/16/2017 at 05:58 (2,530 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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Where are you finding Tide on special offer? The best I've ever seen on Tide is one dollar off. | ||
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Post# 938860 , Reply# 40 5/16/2017 at 16:59 (2,530 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Cannot speak for your area, but here in NYC:
Ride Aid - nearly every other week Tide is on sale (usually liquids and pods, but sometimes powder) Target Various other supermarkets such as Morton Williams/Associated, Shoprite, etc... Rite Aid nearly is always the lowest. www.riteaid.com/savings/w... Last week Arm & Hammer liquid detergents were on sale at $1.99. They sold out of the stuff in a few days, ditto for when second truck load arrived later in week. In fact you can always tell which detergents are on sale at local Rite Aid, as that is what you'll see overwhelmingly at the laundromat which is one block or so away. | ||
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Post# 938872 , Reply# 41 5/16/2017 at 17:47 (2,530 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 938920 , Reply# 42 5/17/2017 at 00:15 (2,530 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Combine offers to get bigger savings 
This week at Target , you receive a $5 Target gift card if you buy any two Tide or other P&G brand items. If you buy two bottles of Tide, you can use two $1 Tide (manufacture) coupons, and if you find any Target coupons for Tide, you may also use them too. That could add up to big savings. At Target, you may combine (stack) both a manufacturer's coupon and a target coupon on the same item.
From this week's ad: Free $5 Target GiftCard when you buy any two Tide, Gain, Charmin, Downy, Bounce, Bounty or Puffs products listed. Gain 100-oz. 64-load liquid, 35-ct. Tide Pods or Gain Flings, or Tide 75-oz. 48-load liquid. | ||
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Post# 938921 , Reply# 43 5/17/2017 at 00:19 (2,530 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Regarding Persil Pearls | ||
| Post# 939355 , Reply# 44 5/19/2017 at 11:29 (2,527 days old) by dsimonl (Portland, OR) | ||
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Just received my 6 jugs of original scent power pearls from Target.com. Free shipping. Those should last me a while since I only use them for white loads. | ||
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