Thread Number: 70807
/ Tag: Vintage Dryers
Frigidaire DCIF-64 |
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Post# 937744   5/11/2017 at 12:34 (2,540 days old) by jgrey (pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Hi, I've got a vintage Frigidaire DCIF-64 dryer that I'm trying to get working. It runs and gets warm but doesn't dry my clothes. Any ideas of what the problem might be? |
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Post# 937753 , Reply# 1   5/11/2017 at 13:50 (2,539 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 937754 , Reply# 2   5/11/2017 at 13:52 (2,539 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 937765 , Reply# 3   5/11/2017 at 14:11 (2,539 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)   |   | |
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The "F" in the model number indicates a Filtrator dryer that is vent-free. I imagine the internals could be clogged with lint and such. PhilR would know better. |
Post# 937809 , Reply# 6   5/11/2017 at 17:22 (2,539 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Could also be a bad connection - the 240v leg may not be making proper contact with the heating element. Do you notice any odd smell or sizzling noises that could indicate a loose wire somewhere?
Also, had a problem like this years and years ago that caused me to scrap a perfectly good vintage Kenmore dryer - it turned out to be a bad circuit breaker! |
Post# 937822 , Reply# 7   5/11/2017 at 17:51 (2,539 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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First thing to check is the blower belt for the belt driven blower, your dryer has two blowers, one attached to the front of the motor and one driven off the back of the motor by a belt.
Other than that if it is heating up it may need a good cleaning, the easiest thing to clean is the removable heat exchanger behind the removable front panel below the loading door. Be sure all the 1/2 " tubes are completely clear and the fined section as well, you can use an air hose and finish with hot water. |
Post# 937848 , Reply# 8   5/11/2017 at 19:54 (2,539 days old) by TrainGuy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 937977 , Reply# 9   5/12/2017 at 09:54 (2,539 days old) by variflexpghpa (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Hey Rich Waaaaaay long time since we crossed paths. If this dryer is in the area, I'd enjoy going along on that service call. My 65 is resting quietly in storage. |
Post# 938008 , Reply# 10   5/12/2017 at 11:33 (2,539 days old) by jgrey (pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I appreciate the offer. I'm on the other side of the state though, in the Poconos. I'll have time this weekend to tear it open and give it a good cleaning; hopefully that will fix it. |
Post# 938650 , Reply# 12   5/15/2017 at 11:45 (2,536 days old) by jgrey (pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Is it possible that trying to run it with those blockages caused the thermal fuse to blow? |
Post# 938684 , Reply# 13   5/15/2017 at 15:33 (2,535 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Cannot Obtain Desired Temperature:
Incorrect thermostat setting. Remedy - Adjust or Replace thermostat Drying Time Too Long - Lint obstructing exhaust holes in Filtrator base. Remedy: Clean lint from Filtrator base holes. lint obstructing Filtrator holes. Remedy: Clean lint from Filtrator holes. Air leaks at Filtrator seal and or door seal. Remedy: Check seals; adjust or replace as necessary. As another poster stated previously it cannot be over stressed that these Filtrator dryers need to be kept quite clean inside. Don't know how "deep" your previous cleaning (and rodent nest removal) went, but sometimes only a good tear down will do. While in there make sure that the thermostat bulb/sensor is clean and not covered in lint. Sadly musty smells can came from any condenser dryer due to the build up of moisture in an enclosed warm environment. You may want to wash the Filtrator parts (if possible) in a mild disinfectant solution and or carefully wipe down interior parts as well to get at source of the whiff. If you've had mice living inside that dryer then most certainly they left a bit of themselves behind (droppings and or urine), which will also give off a smell when dryer heats up. You might want to purchase/download a copy of service manual from this site. There you will find troubleshooting, repair and other useful information for your dryer. |
Post# 938746 , Reply# 14   5/15/2017 at 21:47 (2,535 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Jacob, tell what you found, are both blowers running? Rear blower belt good? You should feel some air blowing out the rear top openings in the black rear panel.
Try running the dryer with the door open, you should feel some suction through the holes below the lint filter area. If you put your hand toward the top rear [ inside ] of the drum you should feel some good heat within a minute, if not check the amp draw while the machine is running [ should be around 20 amps on both hot lines.
If amp draw is way low you either have a bad heater element or the dryer is not connected to the power source properly.
There is no thermal fuse in this dryer.
Very little of the information in replay #13 is useful, I have had two of these FD no vent dryers for over 25 years, one in each house. They do not need much routine cleaning and neither has ever developed any musty smells. Your dryer may need repairs and cleaning however. |
Post# 938817 , Reply# 16   5/16/2017 at 11:47 (2,535 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 938895 , Reply# 17   5/16/2017 at 19:04 (2,534 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Some good progress, Yes the 1952-60 FD vent-free dryers are completely different machines, 1961-68 are all about the same, repair manuals are out there.
If the heater is working properly it should dry clothing.
Keep in mind these dryers are 50% slower at drying clothing and use 25% more total power than regular vented electric dryers.
Let us know how it checks out. |
Post# 939163 , Reply# 19   5/18/2017 at 07:39 (2,533 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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These dryers used a little different element than standard FD dryers, it was a little lower wattage for one thing around 3900 watts I believe.
The element is an open style strung through ceramic insulators, depending on the condition of yours they can sometimes be repaired or a new similar wattage coil installed. I may even have a good used one for one of these dryers. |
Post# 939175 , Reply# 20   5/18/2017 at 10:27 (2,533 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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The 1961 and late Filtrator dryers are quite different from the 1960 and earlier models.
The belt for the lower blower is similar to what Whirlpool used in their old dryers and still available. It's a bit shorter than the original but it works. They are clear rather than black. This video is from a 1967 Filtrator but it's quite similar to a 1964. I also have a 1964 Deluxe dryer but I wish I had a Custom Imperial like yours! Do you have the matching washer?! |
Post# 939180 , Reply# 21   5/18/2017 at 10:45 (2,533 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Here are some pictures I took from my 1964 Tech Talk, the heater in Filtrators is 4100 watts, slightly less than the heater in the economy vented model which is 4400 watts.
I took pics of the wiring diagrams, not very clear but I hope it helps. |
Post# 939351 , Reply# 22   5/19/2017 at 10:43 (2,532 days old) by jgrey (pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I believe I've found the problem. The heating element is definitely broken.
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Post# 939357 , Reply# 23   5/19/2017 at 11:38 (2,532 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 939411 , Reply# 24   5/19/2017 at 19:38 (2,531 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 939631 , Reply# 25   5/21/2017 at 08:03 (2,530 days old) by Helicaldrive (St. Louis)   |   | |
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Smart. Very smart. Not to mention creative. |
Post# 940081 , Reply# 27   5/24/2017 at 18:59 (2,526 days old) by TrainGuy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 941882 , Reply# 29   6/5/2017 at 12:18 (2,515 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Lots of heat and steam when you open the door in mid-cycle is normal!
You might see some water dripping from the right side of the dryer which isn't normal but a common problem with these dryers that's fairly easy to fix if it bothers you! Another common problem is the small blower fins that expand and make a scratching noise when the temperature rises in the dryer. This noise should disappear as soon as you turn off the heat (by pressing the "no heat" button). It's less likely to happen on "Delicate" setting. You can always bend the fins of the blower to avoid getting that noise for a while if it happens... |