Thread Number: 70881
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Maytag Jetclean Still underfilling after new water inlet valve replacement |
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Post# 938738   5/15/2017 at 20:21 (2,534 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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So, dishwasher still cleans and cycles perfectly although it is still having the surging issue. As Ive mentioned before, when it runs and recirculates the water at any time of the cycle it constantly is surging and sounds deprived of water. Water is getting to all three levels. Looks like it has plenty of water too. But it seems to be underfilling. This issue is easily temporarily resolved for each cycle by adding less than half a gallon of water to the basin after it fills each time throughout the cycle.
So we thought it was a bad inlet valve as suggested we replace it with a new one. We did, and I test ran it. It filled PERFECTLY. Started to recirculate and cycle into the pre wash and sounded absolutey perfect, no surging. Then after I ran it for about 7 minutes, I cancelled and drained it and then ran it on another rinse cycle, and then again, it started surging during the pre wash. It had just been working totally fine a minute ago! Makes NO sense. Like I said, adding water to the tub makes the surging go away. This problem NEVER occurred until AFTER i cleaned out to the sump. I didn't hear any type of surging before I cleaned the sump and chopper out. Before water wasn't getting to the upper wash arm very well and wasn't working at full blast as it is now with the sump cleaned out from gunk in the chopper. What the heck could possibly be the issue? Could it possibly be the float or something I did wrong in the sump assembly? The valve isn't the problem, so lets take that off the list. Im in serious need of help. This is a 2010 style Maytag Jetclean Plus Steam dishwasher with soil sensing technology. |
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Post# 938744 , Reply# 1   5/15/2017 at 20:59 (2,534 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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How high is your drain hose installed? I noticed you said you drained the unit and after that it began surging, could a possible siphon be taking place? |
Post# 938846 , Reply# 2   5/16/2017 at 15:25 (2,533 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 938897 , Reply# 3   5/16/2017 at 20:17 (2,533 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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Maytag, not sure if this will help, but I noticed if I run my new Fridgaire DW on any cycle except heavy it will surge and sound water starved. I'm thinking the water saving police have something to do with it. |
Post# 939048 , Reply# 4   5/17/2017 at 17:53 (2,532 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 939136 , Reply# 5   5/18/2017 at 00:42 (2,532 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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Maytag, have you checked the overfill float to see if something has gotten beneath it? Also, have you checked to see if the machine is still level, front to back and side to side? |
Post# 939326 , Reply# 6   5/19/2017 at 05:14 (2,530 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 940643 , Reply# 7   5/28/2017 at 11:37 (2,521 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 940649 , Reply# 8   5/28/2017 at 11:54 (2,521 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 940721 , Reply# 10   5/28/2017 at 22:00 (2,521 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 941941 , Reply# 11   6/5/2017 at 17:51 (2,513 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 941968 , Reply# 13   6/5/2017 at 20:33 (2,513 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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You know what, it never made the nouse until AFTER i took the sump apart and chopper assemebly. But water wasnt getting to the upper racks anyway so.. I dont know. Plus I dont trust on doing a lot of things myself. Im not too handy. But I definity know quite a bit about these things. The chopper was so confusing to get back on but I did it and I allined it correctly I thought, but maybe not. As I add a little bit of water the surging sound goes away....
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Post# 941978 , Reply# 15   6/5/2017 at 21:49 (2,513 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 942334 , Reply# 17   6/7/2017 at 19:40 (2,511 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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We will check that.
So I did a reset of the control board, and now the dishwasher acts extremely different. I hit the ''Hi Temp Wash, Heated Dry" four times like they tell you to, and now ever since its been acting really strange. The first thing it did was it didn't start washing after it filled up for the main wash. It just sat there and did nothing, so I cancelled it and restarted it and it was fine after that. Then, just now it didn't run the full 45 minutes on the wash cycle like it usually does on the "Normal" setting. It washed for about 20 minutes this time instead, and now it drained and Its rinsing now. I don't understand what I did wrong, all I did was reset the control board and now its acting a little funny. And also before this I should mention the dishwasher operated completely perfect, no issues other than that filling problem. Now, it still has the filling issue and now it seems like the control board is confused. Another thing it does now that it didn't before I did the reset is that when I used to hit the start button it immediately started filling with water. Now, after I did the reset it now waits about 2 seconds to start filling after I hit the start button. What in the hell is going on with my dishwasher? Should I turn the breaker off to it and then turn it back on when the dishwasher is off? Im just so sick and tired of worrying about this dishwasher. Any ideas? |
Post# 942521 , Reply# 19   6/8/2017 at 18:48 (2,510 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 942665 , Reply# 21   6/9/2017 at 12:30 (2,509 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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lets go back and start over and try to figure a few things out......
forget about what the last dishwasher did, that may have had a different programming or time frame to allow filling....... starting with this new one, how long is the time frame it is allowing for that valve to be open to allow it to fill?....my KitchenAid TT only allows 60 seconds.. second.....household water pressure.....with the aerator removed, turn on the hot water.....can it fill a gallon of water in roughly around 30 seconds?...I have extremely high water pressure, so I cant exactly give you a comparison... next your going to want to check the water valve and supply hose to make sure you are getting proper flow and pressure to the machine..... wondering, if you were to allow the machine to fill, then stop it, cancel and re-start the cycle....will it drain first, or allow it to add more water and continue on?.... I am just wondering if that machine is just not good for your particular application.....and that it may not be a machine error at all..... lets just try to go step by step...and rule out a few things....obviously it runs fine if you add more water..... most machines obviously are time fill, the overflow/pressure switch is only there for cases like mine, where it fills faster than the time allowed, and so it doesn't overflow.... lets see if we can get to the bottom of this...... |
Post# 942685 , Reply# 22   6/9/2017 at 15:39 (2,509 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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My dishwasher is fine now, the reset calibrated. So its working normally now. Anyway, the dishwasher has a fill time of 75 seconds. and while installing the new dishwasher, we had to rip the old water line out from under the sink and install a completely new one. I honestly have thought for a while that it isnt even a machine defect, it could be my water supply.
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Post# 942704 , Reply# 23   6/9/2017 at 18:18 (2,509 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 942727 , Reply# 24   6/9/2017 at 19:41 (2,509 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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