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Post# 939020   5/17/2017 at 14:31 (401 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Finally a May that feels like MAY! --Late JUNE, actually...


After all that Winter Vortex we'd had (& I still can't get rid of my cold or cough)...


But I don't like opening my windows, and I notice not too many other people in my neighborhood do either... And so far nobody else has theirs on yet either...


Another problem is the wife always complains about feeling cold...



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Post# 939022 , Reply# 1   5/17/2017 at 14:36 (401 days old) by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

Ours has been on the last two days, right now it's 88 outside and 71 inside.

Post# 939023 , Reply# 2   5/17/2017 at 14:54 (401 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
Give me a May like January

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Silly rabbit...we've already had a couple of days at 103 and 104 respectively...last month in April!

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Post# 939026 , Reply# 3   5/17/2017 at 15:04 (401 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor)        

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We're in a heat wave (for us) Hit 73 yesterday, maybe 75 today, 90 tomorrow then back to the 60's. Been gloomy, chilly and rainy since pretty much the beginning of April. I mowed for the first time today, but the black flies were horrible. Very doubtful my a/c will be in the window for at least another month.

Post# 939038 , Reply# 4   5/17/2017 at 17:03 (401 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
Turned ours on last Saturday:

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Temps in the upper 80's Sun, Mon, Tues, can shut er' off tomorrow with highs in the 50's (Only in Minnesota).

Post# 939041 , Reply# 5   5/17/2017 at 17:23 (401 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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turned on the new central this morning, wanted to keep it cool before the heat hit.....was actually dying to see how it works, so far so good, super quiet, but still didn't expect to turn it on yet...

it didn't come on until around noon....that's when the heat hit into the 90's, actually felt hotter than that....and this is only day 1, were expecting these temps for at least 2 more days.....

forget Spring and Fall, we go from one extreme to the next....

Post# 939045 , Reply# 6   5/17/2017 at 17:45 (401 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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At least not in this house. Just isn't that warm in our part of New York, that is my opinion anyway.

However going by what one has seen/heard whilst walking about others feel differently. Let them have at it, that is what I say. Con Edison isn't giving away anything and see no reason to pay triple digit electric bills any sooner than is truly necessary.

Post# 939047 , Reply# 7   5/17/2017 at 17:50 (401 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
We're in a winter storm.

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So y'all will pardon me if I depart from your A/C discussions and go throw another log on the fire.

Post# 939054 , Reply# 8   5/17/2017 at 18:09 (401 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

Ours has been on and off for the last month.


Post# 939055 , Reply# 9   5/17/2017 at 18:12 (401 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

My central air has been on for a couple of weeks. We've had several days in the mid-80s with muggy overnights, so opening windows hasn't been an option for this asthmatic. I'm keeping it set at 73 degrees.

Post# 939058 , Reply# 10   5/17/2017 at 19:05 (401 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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It's always on here.  Auto heat/cool switching.  Not unusual it runs a bit between cold fronts during the "winter" season.  Probably haven't needed heat since March.

Post# 939063 , Reply# 11   5/17/2017 at 19:30 (401 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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"So y'all will pardon me if I depart from your A/C discussions and go throw another log on the fire."

God will get you for that Walter!


Post# 939070 , Reply# 12   5/17/2017 at 19:43 (401 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor)        

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Well, my heat kicked on this morning with the thermostat set at 62. Closed the windows up now as its too chilly to even use the BBQ. Not worth putting a/c in for just 1 day. Maybe next month. Usually cools right off at night here off the lake and a window fan works fine. Once the humidity hits, a/c will be running, trust me.

Post# 939072 , Reply# 13   5/17/2017 at 19:47 (401 days old) by Xraytech (S.W. Pennsylvania, near Pittsb)        

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With it getting into the low 90s here today the central a/c was turned on this morning.
Just last week we had the furnace on in the morning and evening.
Hope this heat lady's only a day or two so I can turn the a/c off and save some electricity for the rest of the month

Post# 939079 , Reply# 14   5/17/2017 at 20:15 (401 days old) by washman (Butler, PA)        

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Ran mine the last 2 days.

Yogitunes, did you get a new HVAC system and if so, what brand


Hi frig!

Post# 939081 , Reply# 15   5/17/2017 at 20:18 (401 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

The A/C has been on at home for the past few days now. Sadly I'm not getting to enjoy the warmth (in the 80s) as I'm in Colorado where it's been cloudy, in the 40s and raining. And yes the heat is on where I'm staying. I'm kinda pissed cuz it was such a cold spring at home and now I'm stuck in cold again.

Post# 939084 , Reply# 16   5/17/2017 at 20:26 (401 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Barely hitting low 80's here outside and I turned off the heat yesterday morning after the heat cycled on upstairs with the thermostat set to 66°.

Have been running two old window air conditioners just a few hours since to get rid of the humidity, will probably add one or two more as it gets warmer.

It's still cooler upstairs even if I didn't run the air conditioner in my bedroom today, the temperature upstairs didn't reach 68°. I started the air conditioner in the kitchen when the temp reached 72° this afternoon and I shut it off about two hours ago and the temperature went up from 69° to 72° again.

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Post# 939088 , Reply# 17   5/17/2017 at 20:37 (401 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan)        

Main floor got to 78 today, upstairs even worse so on it went this evening. Off it will go Friday morning as it's scheduled to only get to 65.

Post# 939097 , Reply# 18   5/17/2017 at 21:15 (401 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        
93 Degrees in Springfield, Mass. today

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so I put in the 3 Friedrich window units. One more day of heat tomorrow, so yes, they are running already.

It was only a week ago that I had to turn the heat back on, because of how cold and damp it was.

Post# 939104 , Reply# 19   5/17/2017 at 21:44 (401 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
So far no complaints about being "Too Cold" & she--

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--doesn't even know that it's ON!!!!


Well, it took a while for the thermostat to go from 65º / 83º when I did switch it to A/C, to finally read what it says now...


I'd wished I'd made the change when it read 71º / 79º, but now what a relief I can turn the Temp. UP, now, & the house will feel cozy & the wife, hopefully in every case, won't complain...



-- Dave

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Post# 939120 , Reply# 20   5/17/2017 at 22:36 (401 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I keep it about

65 to 68 in the summer, about 68 in winter, we burned less than 250 gallons of oil this winter, but you can bet the power bill will make up for it this Summer!

Post# 939127 , Reply# 21   5/17/2017 at 22:51 (401 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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 They have been on and off since Easter. All are running since last night, don't see them going off until Saturday. Expected high of 70F by then.

Post# 939132 , Reply# 22   5/17/2017 at 23:53 (400 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

"forget Spring and Fall, we go from one extreme to the next...."

It feel like November & March weather (45-55F, cloudy, raw, chill clings to your bones) starts earlier and runs later every year. At the same time summer comes earlier and stays longer.

A/c in our building turned on today. Using the a/c at Eric's for the first time this evening.

Post# 939162 , Reply# 23   5/18/2017 at 07:11 (400 days old) by Jmm63 (Denville, NJ)        

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I'm in Michigan at my mom's Dave and these brick Allen Park houses get hot by the afternoon so  I got their a/c ready for the season for them.  Took off the outside cover, cleaned the condenser, changed the dampers from winter to summer and changed the filter.  We were quite comfortable at about 77 in no time.  I sure wish my house had central air, I'm going to have to bump it up the list of things to do.  

Post# 939182 , Reply# 24   5/18/2017 at 10:48 (400 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the A/C system is a PAYNE....

I was able to bump up slightly from a 3 ton to a 3.5.....the inside unit was an "A" frame, now its a "N" shape design, and roughly 6 inches taller, also allows access for opening up and cleaning

this Father and Son team installed it....well, actually I met them last Fall as the son bought a Kitchen Aid washer/dryer off of me......

I gave him a good deal on the set....and he gave me a fantastic deal on this unit and install.....he also offered, if this is not going to work for this house, he would take this back, and offer a deal on a complete heat/AC switch out, bumping upwards to a 4 or 5 ton unit...

they also showed me how to braze copper lines, without the use of cleaning and flux.....that lesson was worth more to me than you know....

all I know so far, its 90 outside, no shade or trees, the sun bakes on this house, and inside its at 74, and it is cycled off at the moment...well, its been three hours so far, and has not come back on.....

the original unit ran 24/7 and barely kept up......we had electric bills close to 1000.00 a month...

but for right now, I am a happy camper...better than I expected

the only thing with central air systems, unlike window units, you can't really shut off rooms or registers, it will throw the unit into havoc, best to keep everything open full matter what, you have to cool the entire house...

Post# 939214 , Reply# 25   5/18/2017 at 14:03 (400 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        
91 here at the moment, and the t-storm clouds are brewing...

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but we hate a/c, generally, so the box fan is on low next to me. We have 7 of them and use them in every room we inhabit here in central NY throughout summer.

In VT we have a new high-tech Mitsubishi Cold Climate heat pump that heats well down to minus 15F, it'll be interesting to see how well it cools, though we probably won't use it much in summer, if at all; we prefer the breeze off the lake. But no doubt the kids will use a/c when they are there.

Post# 939220 , Reply# 26   5/18/2017 at 14:49 (400 days old) by washman (Butler, PA)        

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Payne, IIRC, is a division of UTC, aka makers of Carrier and owners of ICP HVAC stuff.


So long as it is not microchannel, you should be fine

Post# 939268 , Reply# 27   5/18/2017 at 18:33 (400 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
My 1990 ish

2.5 ton Bryant is doing fine (knock wood).

Since we are talking A/C, what is a microchannel Ben?
I also noticed our neighbor has a second unit installed. it is not brand new looking. The green one in the back was also running today.
At first I thought it was a heat pump. maybe it is, for a grow room in his basement perhaps?
he has the lines going through a basement block window vent.

Post# 939282 , Reply# 28   5/18/2017 at 19:16 (400 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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It was in the high 80s yesterday so I had to turn on the ductless A/C unit in the bedroom when I went to bed. I set the timer for 1 hour as I just wanted to cool the bedroom down but at 2:30 am I had to get up and turn the A/C back on. It was humid here today and we had a downpour this afternoon. It is supposed to go down to about 35 F tonight (a couple hours north of here it was snowing this afternoon) and a high of only about 60 for the next several days. I am having another ductless split A/C unit installed tomorrow in the main living area.


Post# 939285 , Reply# 29   5/18/2017 at 19:39 (400 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor)        

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First time in shorts and no shirt this year. Cooling off somewhat after a surprise at 92 today, broke the record. Think the ceiling and window fans will make it sleepable. I really dont want to drag my a/c out and put it in.

Post# 939294 , Reply# 30   5/18/2017 at 21:06 (400 days old) by washman (Butler, PA)        

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Mike I attached a pic of a microchannel condenser design. Nothing new, really.  It's been used on autos for years now.


However in a residential HVAC environment, it has proven to be less than durable, hard to fix, and often the whole condensing unit needs replaced.  While it is lighter in weight and uses less of a charge than a typical copper tube design, it is nowhere near as durable. And York has had their tit in the ringer over this.


If you search on  youtube, there is a chap named israel hvac that has his own business in Louisiana.  He is not a fan of microchannel designs.


My uncle had a saying back in the day............copper is proper.  :)

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Post# 939295 , Reply# 31   5/18/2017 at 21:25 (400 days old) by duke ()        

TRUE--I do like them but they are a thin and easily damaged condenser.Huge fight last month with Trane over this issue on a rooftop unit.I strongly suggest hardware cloth to protect it or a factory hail guard.One good hit from a projected lawn mower pebble and bye bye  thousand bucks.

Post# 939346 , Reply# 32   5/19/2017 at 09:59 (399 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Thanks Ben,

I saw that photo on line last night.
My sister got a Payne unit 3 years ago in my folks house she now has. My mom never wanted central air.
She used to keep the blinds and drapes drawn on the sunny side of the house so it didn't heat up. They were usually away from home in their healthier days on antique scavaging outings. By the time they got home at night, it had cooled off enough to sleep with a fan.
I tell you, depression kids were very frugal. My dad used to tell us we only earned what we saved. Believe it or not, a Democrat to boot.

Post# 939485 , Reply# 33   5/20/2017 at 07:17 (398 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
What A Difference A Day Makes...

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Twenty-four little hours.......

Went to sleep with windows open and fan running, overnight felt sort of chilly so reached down for the blankets. This morning greeted with a nice crisp, slightly chilly and windy weather. Just perfect.

Yesterday's high temp in NYC was 91F. Today things will be around 63F.... Cannot be sure but think there was a slight bit of rain overnight as ground looks wet.

Post# 939510 , Reply# 34   5/20/2017 at 11:11 (398 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
We got eleven inches of wet snow at our house, in the end.

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Lots of trees down around town, lots of patio covers, verandas, etc.

Had a bit of satisfaction - after the hail storm of '08, I had a big fight with the contractor rebuilding the 14x64 polycarbonate veranda cover. Insisted on cutting the spacing between joists in half, never mind what 'code' allowed. Doubling up on the panel overlap and spending an extra $2.00/panel for the slightly thicker but better UV protected ones.


So - ours took the load with no problem - let's see this snow was officially 20lbs/cubic foot. So - 16426.666lbs load on the roof when the snow stopped early this morning. That's a bit over 7, 450kg for those of us who think in normal weight.


That was enough to bring down not one, not two but eight of the patio roofs he'd done in the past five years. The length of the guarantee to stay up he gives. 


There are some advantages to living in a small town. Schadenfreude is one of them.



Post# 939551 , Reply# 35   5/20/2017 at 18:29 (398 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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It was 92 here yesterday and 80 this morning at 7am when I left Vanderbilt.  Thunderstorming right now and temp in the 60's.  I've had the AC on for the last week at least.  My 17 year old Amana (Goodman) so far has done well.  Tony and I are having thermostat wars...he's hormonal now and having hot flashes.

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