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Post# 939795   5/22/2017 at 18:43 (2,501 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)   |   | |
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I'm looking at getting a new front load washer. I'm considering A Speed Queen, and a Maytag. I know that the Speed Queen does not have an internal heater, and is smaller capacity. Does the Speed Queen dumb down the water temps, or is it straight from the taps. Also will the Queen hold king size bedding. Bulky mattress pads and Duvets. It does not seem like it. Anybody have either? Pros and cons. I'm also concerned about cycle times. I tend to do a lot of laundry all at once, and know that's an issue. Malcolm, anybody?
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Post# 939840 , Reply# 3   5/23/2017 at 07:08 (2,501 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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SQ FL washers do not lower the hot wash temperature when set for a hot wash.
The capacity should easily hold any reasonable King Sized bedding [ go on SQs web site and you can see the demonstration ]
Both machines are good machines and will get the job done, but if you ever took them both apart you would see there is no comparison in build quality. It is like comparing a 1966 Kitchenaid DW and a Westinghouse DW of the same year, yes both were top performers in CUs tests that year, but the KAs outlasted the WHs at least 3 to 1, I would expect a SQ FL washer to easily out last three or more of any other FL washer you can buy today.
It really boils down to do you want to buy another washer in your lifetime, In my case I an leaving my 12 YO SQFL washer to someone in my will, as I know that I will never wear it out.
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Post# 939849 , Reply# 5   5/23/2017 at 08:43 (2,501 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Either the SQ lasts 30 years, or it lasts far less because of a motor control board failure that will cost too much to fix, and it will go to the scrap pile with a nice stainless tub and a few other comparatively overbuilt parts that will go to waste... That said apparently all FL machines have these boards...Stauber anyone? If king sized comforters are a routine wash item get one of those ginormous machines not named Speed Queen....ahem, imho. |
Post# 939889 , Reply# 8   5/23/2017 at 14:29 (2,500 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Post# 939891 , Reply# 9   5/23/2017 at 14:39 (2,500 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 939892 , Reply# 10   5/23/2017 at 15:15 (2,500 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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when it comes to opinions on this sort of stuff....
always go with what a mechanic will advise you, not a salesperson.... go with the advice of someone with experience..... and finally, go with someone willing to put their money where their mouth is.....will they give you your money back if you take their choice of machines and it fails? bottom line, just make good choices.... puffy comforters take up more space than a quilt....but usually a king size quilt, sheet set and pillow cases fit one load in a 3.3 cuft tub with no issues...your mileage may vary... |
Post# 939898 , Reply# 12   5/23/2017 at 15:58 (2,500 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"That's one thing I don't understand or like... no spin, only draining between wash and rinse, or between rinses. NOT a good way to promote thorough rinsing."
Rationale behind not extracting immediately after wash (for H-axis washers at least) is to prevent pulling soil/detergent residue or whatever through "clean" wash. In early days all commercial H-axis washers only did just that; washed and rinsed. Laundry was then removed to a separate extractor for water removal. When commercial H-axis machines (and by then domestic versions) received spin cycles, many still only spun after the second or even third rinse. My older Miele only does one short pulse spin after the third rinse, a full spin after fourth then final spinning after last rinse on the "normal" Cottons/Linens programme. Idea here was to remove soap/detergent and muck residue by dilution, much as some would do via hand washing. Also in the days of high sudsing detergents rinsing several times before attempting to spin lessened the chances of froth choking the pump (suds lock). Also not spinning after the main wash gives laundry a chance to be cooled by the first rinse which one supposes helps make for less creasing. It is an accepted fact however that the more spin cycles a washer has between rinses, the less need for that cycle. By adding a spin cycle between say the second and third rinse, means under most circumstances a washer can get by with one less spin cycle. On my OKO-Lavamat the default Normal/Cottons/Linens cycle will spin after the first wash and indeed rather violently after each subsequent five rinses. However if one choses the "Sensitive" option the machine will do two deep rinses after the main wash with no spins in between, same as the older Miele. It then goes onto three (or four, cannot recall atm) rinses with spins (again some violently) between. AEG claims this "sensitive" cycle is for things that are worn frequently and or wanting to be carefully rinsed for those needing such a thing. One complaint about the first SQ front loaders (and reason one didn't bother with them at the time) is the machines only had short pulse spins between wash and each rinse. |
Post# 940229 , Reply# 14   5/25/2017 at 15:01 (2,498 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)   |   | |
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i'm still a little confused, just on the size of the Maytag, vs. the SQ. Otherwise I have no hesitation in buying the SQ. I do like the shorter run times of the SQ. Personally, I think a lot of the other brands waste a lot of time sensing and tumbling with no apparent reason. The SQ seems more straight forward in that aspect. Well Thanks again for all the opinions and concerns, I really appreciate it.
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Post# 940233 , Reply# 15   5/25/2017 at 15:13 (2,498 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 940237 , Reply# 16   5/25/2017 at 16:02 (2,498 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 940275 , Reply# 17   5/25/2017 at 21:53 (2,498 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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I'm not sure all king sized comforters would tumble in a SQ FL machine. I think one with a lot of poly fiber fill might stay fairly stationary in the tub...that might not be a very satisfying thing to watch even if it stll managed to clean it fairly decently. Bring your king sized comforter to the showroom and find out. |