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Apex......Columbus finds and my ANGER and Disappointment!!!!!!!!
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Post# 141517   7/11/2006 at 20:19 (6,491 days old) by utjj99 ()        

Ok.........well we all know about the Apex now. Just so I can clear this all up in one little posting here is the knack of it all. I'm pretty new to the whole washer collecting thing. I have a few machines that I've gotten from either friends or from ebay or so forth. My geniuneness has been called into question as to my knowledge about the Apex. I didn't know how rare they were.....I simply knew that it was a top load model and as I've decided to collect mainly combo's and front load machines. Now for the anger and sheer disappointment in some of the people on this site. I recieved two e-mails today from two different members of this site both long time members at that accussing me of making this all up and of using the machine to recieve sexual favors from Robert! I am so hurt at this moment I could cry! If it wasn't for Roberts happiness I would take a SLEDGE HAMMER to that Apex and to everything else in that building for sheer vengence and pain!!! I HAVE NEVER in my life been made to feel like how I feel right now. I will be contacting Robert to have him delete all of my posts from this site and to also delete me from it as well. I wish to recieve no further e-mails from anyone. I will be giving all of the contents of the building to Robert FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!! mind you and he can devide them how he wishes.




Post# 141529 , Reply# 1   7/11/2006 at 21:18 (6,491 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Lord Have Mercy.

Post# 141533 , Reply# 2   7/11/2006 at 21:26 (6,491 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
yikes!

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wow... this is sad news.

I wish you wouldn't go. I can't believe that someone would suggest such an insane thing. I mean, whats the thinking? Do these people think that Robert is going to come to get his dream machine, discover its not there, and then give you a roll in the hay as a consolation? A consolation for ~his~ busted dreams? the logic, or rather, the lack thereof, is simply stunning.

Why not just post the emails and point out the dolts who said such insane things? Nothing better than sunlight to disinfect this wound.

I'm new here too. I don't post a lot, I don't have the room for a collection, and I'm not sure I'd want one. I would love a few choice machines that would earn their keep in my laundry room. So maybe i'm not hardcore or anything, but I think its awesome to see the folks with huge collections and I applaud them for keeping alive a little piece of what would be otherwise forgotten history. If it brings you joy, then its a good thing. John, it seems like you have made a lot of people happy here, including Robert.

So i'd urge you to shrug off the slings. I know it must suck to be blamed for such an outrageous thing, but you and I and anyone else like us, including the good folks on this board, are thrilled for Robert, thrilled that you've made him a happy man and that you've done so selflessly.

Those folks who would claim such a thing are just petty twits with nothing else better to do than rain on a perfectly nice parade. They aren't giving Robert much credit either, which is sad.

Don't let it get you down, buddy. Just laugh in their faces. :-)

-Eric


Post# 141539 , Reply# 3   7/11/2006 at 21:47 (6,491 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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No this aint real. Do not let someone, even in an email or in person let you know their feelings of how it should have gone. That is someone trying to control you. Take no offense to these jealous folks. You have every right to your postings, and don't give up.

Matter of a fact, tell those bithes to come see old redneck butch Stevie, I'll take care of those queens.

Steve


Post# 141542 , Reply# 4   7/11/2006 at 21:58 (6,491 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        
John

Everyone one this board knows Robert. And everyone on this board knows that would not be true.

To teach their STUPID asses a lesson I would post their names and email address.

What a shame for such a nice person to have to go through!

Who ever you are... I do hope Steve kicks your ass! Shame!


Post# 141547 , Reply# 5   7/11/2006 at 22:10 (6,491 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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John
I'm sorry that this happened to you. But don't let a few people ruin your enjoyment of this great site. There really are a lot of nice people here. There are always a few weirdos anytime you have a gathering of humans. Don't let them win. Years ago I experienced some unwarranted harassment from a former member through emails and postings on another web group. I am glad I didn't let that stop me from enjoying this website and the people on it. I would forward these emails to Robert so he knows who these twerps are and let him deal with them as webmaster.
Hope you stay.
Rich


Post# 141551 , Reply# 6   7/11/2006 at 22:17 (6,491 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Boy is this sad news all right. John I’m so very sorry that a few pathetic individuals had to make you feel so bad with their nonsense. Please know that there are so many great, fun people in this club and we wouldn’t want you to leave us just because of a few rotten apples. 99% of the people here are not like that, many of us have met and have built lasting friendships over the years, I can’t tell you how much I cherish the friends I’ve made here.

In case any one is wondering, I spoke to John over the phone on both Sunday and Monday and he knows exactly what he saw. He described it the Apex to me perfectly, enough said period. John has been so incredibly kind, generous and unselfish it really saddens me to know that there are a couple of people inside Applianceville that would treat him this way.

I would really like to know who sent those horrible emails, although we would have to be careful because the culprits could be using other peoples names, we might be able to figure it out, none the less.

As Eric said so eloquently, “Nothing better than sunlight to disinfect the wound“. I couldn’t agree more!

Again John, please stay, I know you want to have some front load washers in your collection, and while a collection itself can be very satisfying, it’s 100 times more satisfying if you have people in your life to share your collection with who truly appreciate these machines, and that you’ve found.


Post# 141555 , Reply# 7   7/11/2006 at 22:29 (6,491 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

Oh good Lord, when will the silly queens just grow up. John, please stay with us. Even though I've not had the pleasure to actually meet the folks on this sight, I cannot tell you how many hours of enjoyment this site has brought. Just to know there are others out there like you is priceless! Don't let a couple of assholes ruin it for you. WE ALL KNOW BETTER.

Post# 141562 , Reply# 8   7/11/2006 at 23:08 (6,491 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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John, I probably can't add much to what has already been said, you seem like a very good person so don't let the few a$$holes get you down, the good far outweighs the bad and in time, you'll forget all about this and come to enjoy and treasure this club as much as the rest of us.

Keep your chin up - Greg


Post# 141571 , Reply# 9   7/11/2006 at 23:25 (6,491 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Don't let the few a$$holes get you down...

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John,

I can't agree more with that advice.
A while back, I had lost my dog and someone on the site posted a You Tube that was in total distaste and disrespect about a dead dog floating in a pool. I took this personally right after the death of my beloved pet and emailed the person who posted to retract the post. I had so many of these wonderful AW 'friends' come to my rescue, that it touched my heart.
I know it only takes a few individuals to spoil it for everyone, but keep your chin up and look at all the good these diverse people do for each other with support and help on all subjects. I believe you could not find a more genuine and caring group anywhere. We are 'support' for each other in times of need whether it be death or the frantic search of a vintage appliance.
So please put those vicious individuals into perspective, and, look at the overall picture.
I thank a higher being every day to have found a loving and caring 'extended family' who's name happens to be Automatic Washer and who resides in Applianceville.
From the bottom of my heart I thank everyone for your kindness.

GadgetGary


Post# 141573 , Reply# 10   7/11/2006 at 23:34 (6,491 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Oh, John,

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That is more than sad, that is just plain sick. We have all gotten over-the-top e-mails - it is just part of the cyber world. Please do us a favour:
The basic quality of this club is the respect we show to each other. Some of us (moi?!) get a bit excited at times, then we apologize and kiss and make up. Or out.
What you've run into is sick.
Neither you nor Robert deserve that sort of treatment.
Please, reconsider what is best to do. Maybe take a break, lurk for a while - if you feel like you have to leave, then that is our loss. I for one, would be pleased if you stayed on.
Keven


Post# 141580 , Reply# 11   7/11/2006 at 23:45 (6,491 days old) by brettsomers ()        
i think this calls for an...

*OH LAWD!*

Post# 141581 , Reply# 12   7/11/2006 at 23:48 (6,491 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
Dear John

Please don't leave us because of a few catty jerks. Just let Robert know whodunnit and he can ban their asses from this site.

Let me also tell you about some of the good people here.

Last year we had a convention at Greg's (Gansky) house in Omaha. I really wanted to go, but airplane tickets don't grow on banana trees and I was mired in a (failing) business here on the most expensive island on earth. I whined online about my financial inability to attend the convention. Lo and behold, another member contacted me and offered to pay my way to the convention. I went ahead and bought my tickets. Sure enough, this member sent me a check to cover my airfare and lodging. I hope by the time the next convention rolls around I can pay it forward and do the same for some one else.

Not long after, I realized that my business, Appliance Garage was indeed NOT happening. Again, I lamented about this here. Another member stepped up and sent me a check for $1000. Dennis (my partner) cried when he saw that. I was stunned by the kindness and it sure helped us get through a really bad time.

So yeah, there are some catty bitches who hang around here, but most the folks here are the nicest you would ever want to meet. Don't leave us because of a few idiots

David-in "Paradise"


Post# 141603 , Reply# 13   7/12/2006 at 04:47 (6,490 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)        
sorry someone hurt your feeling

John I hope you won't leave! I have never meet you but I would like to and there arn't that many of us from Ohio. When I read about your find and gift I was very happy {as were many others i'm sure} and my first thought was will he need help moving every thing {and maybe a little twang of jealousy!}. It never entered my mind that there was an alterior motive until I read this, and I too am mad that someone did this to you. I e-mailed you that I was willing to help move everything as soon as I read your first post and the offer still stands if you need help. I'm close by and would like to help any way I could,. Sincerly Jeff

Post# 141608 , Reply# 14   7/12/2006 at 05:55 (6,490 days old) by kenmore58 (Rhode Island)        

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John,

Please do not do anything rash. I do not think you will find a more cordial group of people than those in this group. Unfortunately, a few jealous individuals have nothing better to do than to make rediculous accusations.

As I mentioned before in a previous post, I have never been involved in a group that generates such warmth and friendship as this one. Within a hour of being at my first wash-in, I felt that I had known the attendees for years. These contacts continued after the wash-in, whether it be in the form of in-person contact, phone calls, or e-mails.

During my recent personal problems of separating with my partner, I started a thread about that subject at a very low point in my life. I could not believe the outpouring of support I received. People I had never met or spoke to sent genuine notes of concern -- something I will never forget.

As far as Robert getting the Apex, doesn't he deserve it??? The work that he does for us keeping this site running is unbelieveable. He is to be commended for his work. I couldn't be happier for him to receive a "dream machine" in his collection.

Don't let one or two bad apples spoil it for you. Stay with us.

Ron


Post# 141612 , Reply# 15   7/12/2006 at 06:50 (6,490 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        
Finding and announcing machines members are looking for

Just a thought I got while reading thru this thread-Say you find a particular machine another member is hunting for-before announcing the find-communicate with the person you want to pass the machine to by private EMail and work it out with him before you annouce it.May prevent problems of this sort.

Post# 141615 , Reply# 16   7/12/2006 at 07:07 (6,490 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Jealous People

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Are very VERY sad!

My interest lays mainly in vacuums and yes I know several guys who I count as fantastic friends who own models I would give parts of my anatomy to own- HOWEVER I know in a lot of cases they have paid far more than I would have done to get them and deserve to have them.
Ive not been here long and only know 4 guys (who I knew before anyhow!) but have got the impression so far its a great place to "hang out"- unfortunatly the chances of me actually meeting anyone in person are pretty remote what with being in the UK but its cool to have "Long distance" friends :).
I would be tempted to "name and shame" whoever is responsible, but as you say it may be difficult if someone has hacked a user name :(

Seamus


Post# 141616 , Reply# 17   7/12/2006 at 07:08 (6,490 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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And just why is no one bribing ME with rare washers in exchange for sexual favors? Huh? Why not? I'm totally insulted! :)

Bethann, would you do the honors of serving up some lovely slices of cake?


Post# 141617 , Reply# 18   7/12/2006 at 07:16 (6,490 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Dear John,
Unfotunately jealousy and coviting lurks in places we sometimes never expect it to.Please don't allow these few low life individuals (whoever they are) to ruin your placement here with the rest of us.I can't speak for anyone else (I'm sure I'm not alone) but I myself value anyone in this group of verry mixed and genuine individuals who go out of their way to share their passion,love,admiration,knowledge,excitement,compassion and oppinon openly with all of us just like you have.Please don't allow this rare mentality to ruin your stay here.They aren't worth it.


Post# 141620 , Reply# 19   7/12/2006 at 07:55 (6,490 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

John, please don't let somebody or somebodies who are just one shake away from tripping their out-of-balance switch ruin this club, or your remarkable find, for you. You found the machines. Keep what you want. Do not give up the machines you really want just because you are angry about some lies people have told about you. It's rough for some people when the moon gets full and they discover they are out of whatever they take to steady their nerves. I hope that you will save the machines, enjoy them and maybe post pictures of the collection so that we can celebrate with you. Members of this group share a love of various pieces of domestic technology and it will be hard for you to find others who will share your joy like we will. It is wonderful to find others who give validation to your interests, instead of telling you that you are nuts, but we are not perfect. Please forgive those who suffered a bit of mass washer hysteria, which sometimes happens when a stash of hidden machines is discovered or uncovered, as the case may be. I am happy for you and Robert and glad that there won't be any more kvetching about the APEX that was thrown away. :-) Tom

Post# 141623 , Reply# 20   7/12/2006 at 08:23 (6,490 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        
Wolves in sheep's clothing

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Sorry about this happening, John. I would post the names to let everyone know who the lurking trolls are.

Post# 141633 , Reply# 21   7/12/2006 at 09:17 (6,490 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
I agree

John. some people are just jerks, and there's no pleasing them.

Waste no time on what they say, they are not happy unless everyone around them is miserable.

I agree with the others too, post the emails you got, show the losers for who they are.


Post# 141645 , Reply# 22   7/12/2006 at 10:12 (6,490 days old) by jaxsunst ()        
OMG

That really makes me sick. I'm sorry that had to happen to you. I've found this to be a great group, and I hope you will not let the trash get to you.

Post# 141647 , Reply# 23   7/12/2006 at 10:25 (6,490 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
John.......

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Wow!!!!!!! I do not blame you for being pissed but I don't think you should hold everyone here accountable for a few people who are acting like lowlife whores. Like Robert said 99% of us are nice people.I hope you'll keep hanging with us because your generosity shows that you have a good and decent heart and that all you were doing was trying to share a stroke of goodluck with others. This group always welcomes new people with open arms and you are no exception. PAT COFFEY

Post# 141648 , Reply# 24   7/12/2006 at 10:34 (6,490 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

I agree with Peter!!!
Post the names.
We don't need their kind up in here!
Brent


Post# 141649 , Reply# 25   7/12/2006 at 10:46 (6,490 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Post the names.

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I agree...Post the names...reveal the source....
Kind of like the scandal a while back in the chat room...
Why does this site need Vicious C**TS??????
Get a life and move on!


Post# 141650 , Reply# 26   7/12/2006 at 11:05 (6,490 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
I LOVE YOU, JOHN

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A beautiful heart like yours is a necessary balance to some of the bile on this network. You are a gift to all of us. Please don't go; we need you.

That anyone could turn the magic you brought to us last weekend into a dirty turd is unspeakable. To see a beautiful heart smeared by dirty bowels is grotesque. I almost can't believe it, and I'm so so sorry for you.

Please stay, John, some of us already love you. You're so generous and funny and smart.

I want to pay the shipping freight for the Apex to Robert's house. He gives us everything, and you gave him his dream. Please contact me.

John, listen carefully to something of utmost importance: If you leave, the terrorists win and will grow stronger. Disembowel them now, and flush out the secret cell.


With Friendship,

Michael Danieu


Post# 141652 , Reply# 27   7/12/2006 at 11:13 (6,490 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
strong emotions

I think there've been a few of us who have gotten our noses out of joint before and felt strong emotions behind it. Some of us even stopped posting for a while to simmer down - I'm one, and I'm not alone either.

It may be par for the course. Please do not let the bastards get you down, man. You can not please 'em all, but you HAVE already pleased so many.

PLEASE ~ Let everybody share in your disdain here and reveal the ignorant bastards so we can all know what to expect~

Holla from Hollywood.

Bob
man who feels strong emotions too


Post# 141660 , Reply# 28   7/12/2006 at 11:49 (6,490 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas)        
HAHAHA

I bet Robert is very glad it was you that found the APEX and not the ones thinking you will use it for sexual favors!

ignore them, I have a feeling they are just jealous that it is not them that is making Robert so happy right now.

Post# 141661 , Reply# 29   7/12/2006 at 11:50 (6,490 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
John---

I am so sorry.

I have nothing but contempt for those truly sad and sick individuals who sent you those unspeakably evil emails.

I have yet to meet Robert in person, but I CAN categorically state that he has far, far, far too much integrity to trade sex for a washer, no matter how rare.


I do hope that you aren't chased off the site.


Not long after I joined this site, I was very sick, an in the hospital for A MONTH. The phone calls, cards, and gifts I got from people here who barely knew me at the time were sincere, sweet, and overwhelming me with love. A feeling which has continued.

When I had to put my darling cat LJ down earlier this year, the support I got here meant the world. I didn't get as much support from the people here in "real" life.


When I went through my cancer scare a few months ago, again, the good people here came through. The lump was benign, but I had to go through all the process to find out.


Hugs,


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 141663 , Reply# 30   7/12/2006 at 11:59 (6,490 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
A hug from Buenos Aires

John, I am so sorry things turned up this way after your good intentions. I will keep saying that by making Robert happy you made us all equally happy. I stand by this emotion.

With all due respect, please accept a big bear hug from your friend in Buenos Aires.

Emilio



Post# 141664 , Reply# 31   7/12/2006 at 12:01 (6,490 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Lawrence/Maytagbear

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Just read your post and CHILLS went thru by body.....


I treasure all my AW family~!


Post# 141665 , Reply# 32   7/12/2006 at 12:04 (6,490 days old) by retromom ()        
Lawdy, Lawdy is right!!

Hi All! Just crawled out of my clamshell to add my two cents worth....

If this is indeed true, the person or persons should most definitely be revealed for all of us to see. With any luck at all, they will disappear from the forum or should be banned.

This kind of behaviour doesn't belong in grade school, much less in an interest group such as ours!

What difference does it make "who" finds or has the appliance. The great thing about this forum is that we all get to "share" the treasure!! We are privileged to see pictures of the find, be a part of its restoration, and witness its "maiden" wash! Sometimes, we actually get to experience these things in person during wash-ins and conventions! I think some people tend to forget that the goal is to rescue and save these rapidly disappearing appliances from the krusher, not to hoard, flaunt, or be envious. What a pity that some who consider themselves "washer enthusiasts" display such childish behaviour.

My advice: Do not let them intimidate you into leaving! This is such a wonderful place!!

Venus


Post# 141670 , Reply# 33   7/12/2006 at 12:14 (6,490 days old) by brettsomers ()        

i hope Robert has the email addys/isp of the offenders. nothing to cause a ruckus over. mark the emails as junk and ignore. the sender was prolly DRUNK when he wrote them and perhaps should confess to the person he sent them to, or Robert.

Post# 141678 , Reply# 34   7/12/2006 at 12:25 (6,490 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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John, it is really sad to hear that someone harassed you in such away - it really is a shame. I hope you are able to look past those futile words and are able to enjoy the good natured conversations that we all have together. Robert's site is a wonderful place, and I hope you stay.

Ben


Post# 141681 , Reply# 35   7/12/2006 at 12:44 (6,490 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I'm sorry John that this happened to you. You certainly didn't deserve such a treatment. I agree with the others that the people who sent you those mails should be exposed. There are always "trolls" around websites who find a liking in causing quarrels and negative feelings between members. Don't listen to them, they don't deserve getting what they want.

Such people don't belong on this website and don't deserve our friendship. Please reconsider and stay here, other people have already testified what a wonderful group this is.

Regards,

Louis


Post# 141693 , Reply# 36   7/12/2006 at 14:39 (6,490 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Please stay with us John! There is always at least one rotton apple. Just ignore them, and enjoy this wonderful site with us. We have such a great group of people here, and you would look forward to making some fantastic friends with us. Do not let two jackasses spoil it for you! Please give the rest of us a chance. You really will be glad you did!

Rick


Post# 141694 , Reply# 37   7/12/2006 at 14:43 (6,490 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Let's keep our eyes on the goal and send much more positive energy to Robert and John...

Post# 141704 , Reply# 38   7/12/2006 at 15:04 (6,490 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I don't know

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Before Robert sent me the '49 Frigidaire he made me do position 392 from the Kama Sutra!

I pulled a muscle~``````:-)


]Jetcone[


Post# 141715 , Reply# 39   7/12/2006 at 15:48 (6,490 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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"Made" you? I understand you have been an expert at 392 for quite a while. You should have done more warm-up stretching.

I refuse to duck and run.

Let us focus on Apex... OMMMMMMMMMM...


Post# 141717 , Reply# 40   7/12/2006 at 15:56 (6,490 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        
Why didn't I think of that?

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Hey, if I had found that Apex, you bet I'd try to trade it for "favors" from Robert! I mean, puh-leeze--did you SEE that picture of him last week? Swoon!

(Okay, no I really wouldn't have. It's just plain wrong, even I know that. And a married man, especially. That's just reprehensible. We're talking Go to Hell. Go Straight to Hell. Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect Two Hundred Dollars.

But still, that picture...)

Anyway, John, don't leave us because a couple of insecure, egomaniacal assholes are trying to stir things up. I'd say that 99.9% of the members here are people who'd take a bullet for each other.

The others are beneath our contempt.

And it's those others who are doing it because they want attention. Okay guys, you want attention? John, go ahead and post the emails--and don't forget to include the headers (email me if you don't know how.)

They'll get the attention they're looking for, oh yes.

Right upside the head.

veg


Post# 141729 , Reply# 41   7/12/2006 at 16:58 (6,490 days old) by gregm ()        
John, you shouldn't leave BUT .....

The ones who sent the emails to you should be eliminated from the club as members period.

Post# 141735 , Reply# 42   7/12/2006 at 17:22 (6,490 days old) by mixfinder ()        
No Way To Put It Back

Just like squeezing toothpaste from tube, there is no way to put it back, once its out. No words can adequately portray the essence of who Robert is or what a truly fine and deserving human being he is. The work, joy and selfless giving he provides for this site and all it's members is exponential. Robert does not deserve to be embroiled in this muck raking any more than do you. I can not imagine what it must feel like to be sucker punched after such a geniune and generous offer. The whole moment is forever tainted. Just like a terrorist, the work of a depraved individual has forever changed the feeling of safety we have for so long enjoyed. Washers.org has been a haven and respite for us all who have never before had a venue to fully appreciate our combined love of collecting, restoring, nurturing, stewarding and shepherding the great legacy of dazzling technology never dreamt possible. my sincerest hope, is that you can accept this in no way minimizises the greatest moment ever shared in this group. Each of us adore, idolize and wish the best for Robert. The Knight in Shining Honor who brought him the gift of the Maggi Apex, will long be venerated here.
It is sad to know our safe domain is infiltrated with terrorist trash, but know that the ones of us who care and matter will forever surround you with a legion of support.
Kelly


Post# 141763 , Reply# 43   7/12/2006 at 18:21 (6,490 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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John,some people are just plain jealous,and have waaaayyy too much time on their hands.Don't let 'em bother you.Too many good people around here to let a few horse's @sses ruin it.

kennyGF


Post# 141764 , Reply# 44   7/12/2006 at 18:21 (6,490 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)        
So Sorry This Had to Happen....

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but I can understand how you feel. I went through a similar situation a while back. It still bothers me somewhat, but it's in the past and I am happy to have started posting after a while. Please don't leave as there are way more positives than negatives.

Rich


Post# 141780 , Reply# 45   7/12/2006 at 18:50 (6,490 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
I was so happy.........

To read of the Apex find, and I still am. It's just sad that the one thing our webmaster has asked and probably searched the U.S. over for, has turned into such a disrespectful episode. My bet is on discretion and the quiet deletion of a couple of members. It would take a giant leap of stupidity, to do such a thing as send the e-mails that have been mentioned. Robert created and maintains this site, wrote the complicated code for it, that we all appreciate daily. John the finder kudos to you. Have a feeling there may be few people that we may never hear from again. I do hope this all turns out ok the Apex in Mn, John keeps membership and the rest of it like it never even happened. It's just wrong. alr2903

Post# 141786 , Reply# 46   7/12/2006 at 19:36 (6,490 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

I can't add anything more to what has already been well said, other than I agree the perps should be disclosed and outsted from this site. There is no room for such antics.....

Post# 141791 , Reply# 47   7/12/2006 at 20:14 (6,490 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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John, please stay! It's the integrity of members like you who make this sight great. It's irritating when malicious people try to ruin the fun for everyone else, so just ignore the idiots who sent you those e-mails; they don't speak for the rest of us.

David


Post# 141793 , Reply# 48   7/12/2006 at 20:16 (6,490 days old) by unimac104 ()        
what else can be said

i'm still new here and love this site for the reasons it was created. robert has done and continues to do an outstading job of maintaing this site for all of us, it is certainly a shame for people not to appreciate it. i agree these scumbags should be ousted, and of course for curiostity sake would like to know who they are, but relize that for the sake of keeping this site professional it might be best if robert deletes them quietly, regular members will fiqure it out who it is. there is just no reason for this kind of behavior amongst friends,especially adults. this is child like behavior, which there is no room for here. john don't let these bad memebers ruin it for you, they have already ruined it for themselves. if people would think about the outcome of there actions, the world would be happier place. jeolusy (spelling) is the route of all evil. good luck with the apex robert.

Post# 141795 , Reply# 49   7/12/2006 at 20:22 (6,490 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Congrats

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Glad Uni found his dream machine. It is the lucky machine that finds a home in Robert's basement. Can't wait to see photos of the restoration in progress. Perhaps this could be the candidate for a "See-It-Wash" dvd with the proceeds being split with John.

MRB


Post# 141813 , Reply# 50   7/12/2006 at 20:53 (6,490 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
mrb627

Thats the ticket mrb627. put me down for one of those dvd's too please. Lets turn this thing around. alr2903

Post# 141817 , Reply# 51   7/12/2006 at 21:16 (6,490 days old) by jerseymike ()        
sigh ....

John,

Please reconsider your decision to leave. Please don't let a couple of bad apples spoil this wonderful place for you. Most of the people who post here are very, very nice.

Your amazing find and your very kind and generous helped Robert realize his dream of owning an Apex.

You didn't deserve what happened to you! How dare someone question your motives!?!

I agree that whoever sent you those e-mails needs to have their memberships cancelled!

:-(

Mike



Post# 141825 , Reply# 52   7/12/2006 at 21:47 (6,490 days old) by maytagmom ()        
I'll break out my Texas size can of whoopazz on the perp

John,

Please don't leave this wonderful little forum in cyberspace. 99.99% of the folks here are very genuine, caring and fun to be around and talk to.

The other's troll around every full moon or 28 days....(at least it's starting to look like that)

Please don't leave!

And I agree...REVEAL!


Post# 141829 , Reply# 53   7/12/2006 at 21:51 (6,490 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
So, we're all waiting......

John, I've been watching the threads for the past few days and am begining to wonder who the people were that sent you the emails that you mentioned at the begining of this thread. I know a lot of the guys in this club and quite honestly, I can't imagine that anyone would do anything like this. If they truely did, then you need to fess up as to who they are. I'm really begining to wonder about this whole thing though. So far, I've not seen any evidence of ANY MACHINES other than your descriptions in the previous post. You've had two days now to post this information and so far, nothing. Are you playing a cruel joke on the club and Robert, in particular? If you're not, then fess up. I think it's time to put up or shut up. Mark

Post# 141831 , Reply# 54   7/12/2006 at 21:58 (6,490 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Yeah, how am I going to get miss thang if I don't know who?



Post# 141838 , Reply# 55   7/12/2006 at 22:03 (6,490 days old) by quiltnbear ()        

John, I am so sorry this has happened. Please stay, you will leave an empty spot if you go. Scott in CA

Post# 141848 , Reply# 56   7/12/2006 at 22:24 (6,490 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Honey puhleeez! Ain't none of ya'll right.
Oh, the hand wringing drama and all. Gag.

If anyone didn't already know us, they would be certain we were all rocking on the front porch of the "Aging Actresses Home" waiting for Robert to levitate for us or perhaps walk on water.

O.K. we all acknowledge that there are some rectums among us-----they ain't right either but what can you do? Just cuss 'em out and go on and thats all you can do.

And whats all this about trading sexual favors for washing machines? Yeah right, like no one amongst us ever had that thought cross their mind. Specifically what type of machine? Hmmmmmmm.

So John just remember who the people are that sent those e-mails to you. One day you might meet them face to face and you can really have some fun!

You should stay with us no matter what!

AND where the hell is Toggle during all of this drama?????????

-Sistah Gyrafoam



Post# 141852 , Reply# 57   7/12/2006 at 22:31 (6,490 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Steve:

We aint right, you got it Honey!!!!!!!

All the sistahs with this strange fore-goings on is far from the truth or straight gul.

Steve


Post# 141860 , Reply# 58   7/12/2006 at 22:42 (6,490 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi everyone, I just want to make it quite clear that I spoke to John again tonight and he is going to forward me those two nasty emails. When I get the emails I will try to determine the source starting with the IP addresses in the headers as well as the style of the writing, when I can figure out who did it they will be banned for good.

I certainly believe him when he says that he has found an Apex as he has described to me in great detail. He has no reason to make this up. I think the outpouring of support today was just marvelous and shows what a great group we have here! I think we will all be together for a very long time.


Post# 141863 , Reply# 59   7/12/2006 at 22:45 (6,490 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
I think we will all be together for a very long time.

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Amen~!


Hail to the Chief!


Post# 141865 , Reply# 60   7/12/2006 at 22:51 (6,490 days old) by brettsomers ()        
AND where the hell is Toggle during all of this drama???????

OH LAWD!

Post# 141866 , Reply# 61   7/12/2006 at 22:52 (6,490 days old) by utjj99 ()        
Ok! I'm gonna stay!!!

Alright!!!!!
Like Joan Crawford said "DON'T F**K WITH ME FELLAS! THIS AIN'T MY FIRST TIME AT THE RODEO!"
I would like to thank everyone on this site for being absolutly the best people I've met in a long time. For the last day I've been really kinda upset about the whole thing. Then I just kinda decided it doesn't matter what people think or what they call you its what you act like and what you answer too. For the few of you out there who think I'm lying or up to evil doings in order to get sex or whatever I wish you a nice slow fall to hell! I love collecting washers and I love this site. I've learned to love the people on here and I'm not gonna budge! I found an APEX that is not bullshit. Me and Robert have been talking on the phone making arrangments for it to get to him in a timly fashion. He is a super great guy and his attitude and absolute kindness in this matter have basically reinforced my wanting to give him the washer for free. Ok enough of this crap!!!!!! On with the happiness and fun this site usually brings! I'm sorry for causing so much anger and distrust in this site the last day. Ok now! Who the hell is gonna help me divi up all these damn machines!!!! MUAH!!!


Post# 141871 , Reply# 62   7/12/2006 at 23:04 (6,490 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
Dear John,

Now that's the spirit! Thanks for finally clearing this up. Mark

Post# 141873 , Reply# 63   7/12/2006 at 23:07 (6,490 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Now your talkin!

Thats the way to do it------glad to see you back!

Post# 141883 , Reply# 64   7/12/2006 at 23:41 (6,490 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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John, I am so glad you made the decision to stay. I've been too upset to post a comment at all, all I knew to do was pray for the situation to resolve properly & positively. It was killing me that you had found such an incredible stash and for you to be treated the way you were.

Post# 141895 , Reply# 65   7/13/2006 at 01:50 (6,489 days old) by agiflow ()        

John, as you already know this a fantastic site. Each year it seems to get better and better. Don't let some sons of b***hes get to you.

You get them back by staying right here. Don't take no s**t from nobody.


Post# 141897 , Reply# 66   7/13/2006 at 01:58 (6,489 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Child I is on vacation.

I am so sorry to hear there is all this nastiness going on.

But I am thrilled that we are not losing a good member!
....and let it be known there is nothing like having a nice, new, good member available as a resource, friend and cyber-companion.


Post# 141905 , Reply# 67   7/13/2006 at 03:45 (6,489 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
Glad thats over with!

Now can we serve the Cake?

Post# 141907 , Reply# 68   7/13/2006 at 04:49 (6,489 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)        
Glad to see you are going to stay!

John, so glad to see you will be staying with us. I e-mailed Robert and told him I live close and would be glad to help with the move. Now without any alterior motive- if there are any that would look nice next to my 1953 slant fronts I could give it a new home. [ but please remeber the offer to help has nothing to do with getting a washer I just live close and want to help}. Jeff

Post# 141921 , Reply# 69   7/13/2006 at 07:06 (6,489 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        
Finally!

All my pictures are on my other computer.


Would somebody do the honors of serving up a slice?


Post# 141934 , Reply# 70   7/13/2006 at 07:44 (6,489 days old) by retromom ()        
Slice o'cake coming up!

Bethann:

I just happen to have a fresh cup of coffee on my desk, and I'm starving to death! Let's dole out the cake!

Venus :-D


Post# 141935 , Reply# 71   7/13/2006 at 07:48 (6,489 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
I just happen to have a fresh cup of coffee on my desk

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And I just happen to have over 150 percolators......


Yeah Baby....that caffeine rush~!


Post# 141939 , Reply# 72   7/13/2006 at 08:07 (6,489 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Venus and Bethann:

May I have a peice please? I am hungry after all this.

Steve


Post# 141955 , Reply# 73   7/13/2006 at 08:54 (6,489 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Christmas in July!!

As Martha would say, "And that's a good thing!!"

Post# 141960 , Reply# 74   7/13/2006 at 09:10 (6,489 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Ok, sweets time

Since I love chocolate I thought this would be appropriate

Post# 141965 , Reply# 75   7/13/2006 at 09:19 (6,489 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
Christmas in july

Do you guys in the US do Christmas in July too?

It is catching on in Au, as all the Christmas traditions, especially the food, seem geared to winter and here, Christmas is in mid summer. Many Aussies now do a barbeque or seafood for Chrissie and have the whole catastrophe for Christmas in July. Not my families though - we swelter in the kitchen in summer.

Anyway, I can understand doing a Christmas in July in the Southern hemisphere, as a sort of down under joke, but why would you do it in the Northern hemisphere??

Confused.

John - very glad to hear you are staying.
Best Wishes
Chris.


Post# 141970 , Reply# 76   7/13/2006 at 09:37 (6,489 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Christmas in July

Chris,
Christmas in July here in the mid-west USA is a sort of psychological relief from the hottest part of Summer. In the past when its been especially hot the radio stations have hauled out Xmas music and played it, with the goal of the music distracting us from how miserably hot it is...we hear winter music and are supposed to feel cooler...
Its not an official holiday or celebration that I know of.
Christmas here falls 4 days after the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year and the least amount of daylight. Its always cold, and if not for the lights and decorations it would be quite dreary as well.


Post# 141972 , Reply# 77   7/13/2006 at 09:47 (6,489 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
And on a lighter note.....

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QVC does a whole day of Christmas in July.....of course..July 25th.....

Post# 141986 , Reply# 78   7/13/2006 at 10:36 (6,489 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Glad this has all worked out. Here's a slice from me to you!

Post# 142020 , Reply# 79   7/13/2006 at 13:00 (6,489 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Good on Ya John

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Never let that 1% of DoDo's spoil the 99% of fun people!

Welcome back and I can't wait to see this muthu wash!

jet


Post# 142025 , Reply# 80   7/13/2006 at 13:39 (6,489 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        
Anyone want a Scooby snack?

Found one in a picture pile and scaned it. It was from my Nephew's seventh B-day.

Post# 142035 , Reply# 81   7/13/2006 at 14:28 (6,489 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Chris

In some locales, at least in my North Central part of
California, organized efforts on behalf of low income
individuals or families or Seniors or people with disabilities, are undertaken by the "haves" ; individuals
or organizations, at this time of year. These efforts can be,
but are not limited to, assistance with property maintenence,
paint,repair etc., in some cases even "house raising". Also
acquistion of more costly necessities, appliances and the like. These are done in the spirit of Goodwill for those in need. I think referring to the effort as "Christmas in July"
is intended to help us all be mindful that the need for
generosity to each other is not limited to any special time or circumstance.


Post# 142059 , Reply# 82   7/13/2006 at 15:37 (6,489 days old) by jerseymike ()        

John,

I'm so glad that you've decided to stay.

The world needs more people like you.

Mike


Post# 142063 , Reply# 83   7/13/2006 at 15:52 (6,489 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I had Christmas in July in 2004. Kind of, sort of, in a way. That was the time I left my Christmas tree up from December 2003 through early November 2004. Figured it was time to take it down when I needed to show the house for sale. Even though it was already November, it would have been kind of obvious.....

Post# 142088 , Reply# 84   7/13/2006 at 17:34 (6,489 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

John,

So glad you're staying with us!! Just remember, what goes around, comes around.....whoever did what they did to hurt you will get theirs.

Andrew


Post# 142094 , Reply# 85   7/13/2006 at 18:08 (6,489 days old) by mixfinder ()        
I love you this much!

John,
Three choices to mow through!
Welcome home.
Kelly


Post# 142112 , Reply# 86   7/13/2006 at 18:37 (6,489 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
Thanks John

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That's good news John, there are alot of beautiful people here on the club, I've met many of them myself at the last convention. A warm Canadian welcome to you and glad you're not letting "the few" spoil it.
Eddy


Post# 142328 , Reply# 87   7/14/2006 at 12:34 (6,488 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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YAY!! Bethann comes to the rescue with another gorgeous cake. And a Scooby cake, at that. All the (former) stoners who frequent this site bow to you, LOL.

Post# 143406 , Reply# 88   7/18/2006 at 19:13 (6,484 days old) by pumper (SE Wisconsin)        
Names please?

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So who was the culprit?


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