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Power Fin or Load Sensor?
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Post# 954612   8/26/2017 at 12:57 (272 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean 1986 YouTube. )        

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Which does a better job? The Power Fin or Load Sensor?

Post# 954613 , Reply# 1   8/26/2017 at 12:57 (272 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean 1986 YouTube. )        

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Post# 954614 , Reply# 2   8/26/2017 at 13:02 (272 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Power fin of course! The only real advantage of the "load sensor" is that with probably too large a load, it will pull the clothes down and circulate them a little better. But if it takes that to circulate the clothes, you have too much in the washer.

Post# 954615 , Reply# 3   8/26/2017 at 13:08 (272 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
No question

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The power fin does a better job. That awful click-clack piece of trash was just a way to pretend an otherwise quite decent machine could was a larger load of clothes than it really could.

Post# 954617 , Reply# 4   8/26/2017 at 13:13 (272 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Depending one what Maytag washer you put them in. If you have a Maytag with the Orbital transmission, then the LoadSensor will do quite well in it. If you put the PowerFin in a Orbital Maytag then you will have insane rollover and water power that will surprise you. If you put the LoadSensor in a Maytag that uses the 5 gear long stroke transmission, you might find that like I did, that the performance isn't up to snuff and the base of the agitator is smaller than the PowerFin. The PowerFin agitator does very well with the long stroke transmission. If the washer is loaded correctly and not overloaded, it does an amazing job I found.
The one thing with using a Maytag PowerFin agitator in a Orbital washer is the amount of water that is pulled thru the filter. I was absolutely amazed at how much lint was on the filter and that was also with the self cleaning filter under the agitator.

Post# 954618 , Reply# 5   8/26/2017 at 13:13 (272 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean 1986 YouTube. )        

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The Power Fin does a good job, but the Load Sensor does a better job at washing large loads. The 1997 Maytag Dependable Care that was at my old house had the Load Sensor on it. I have the Load Sensor on my Maytag A810 washer, and it does work quite well.

Post# 954619 , Reply# 6   8/26/2017 at 13:15 (272 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Then why are you asking if you already know???

Post# 954642 , Reply# 7   8/26/2017 at 15:56 (272 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Powerfin, hands down for me

Post# 954652 , Reply# 8   8/26/2017 at 16:45 (272 days old) by potatochips (Nova Scotia)        
PowerFin in an Orbital

As pro Maytag as I am, I'd repeat what everyone else has said. Power Fin is great in the pitman drive, Load sensor is great in the Orbital drive.

Speaking of which, wanna see a power Fin in an orbital drive? Insane.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO potatochips's LINK

Post# 954661 , Reply# 9   8/26/2017 at 17:26 (272 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Thanks Mike --

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You read my mind and many others!

Post# 954665 , Reply# 10   8/26/2017 at 17:50 (272 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Well of course dear, that's what I am here for! Lol

Post# 954769 , Reply# 11   8/27/2017 at 07:42 (271 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I get really great results from using the Power Fin agitators in my Maytags with the 50 cycle pulley kit. With this kit, the Load Sensor agitators give decent agitation, too, with the original long stroke transmission. My time fill machine with the old tub design that had the non-perforated tub area opposite the Gyrator fins gives quite dramatic water action because instead of the fins driving water through the perforations, they force it up along the tub walls.

Post# 954906 , Reply# 12   8/27/2017 at 18:42 (271 days old) by ken (Ulster Hgts, NY)        

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1971 guts in 1962 cabinet with 50 Hz pulley. Showing results with power fin and load sensor.

Post# 954916 , Reply# 13   8/27/2017 at 20:58 (271 days old) by Washerlover (Lake County, California: Wines With Altitude)        

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I love the sound it makes with the Power Fin agitator -- sounds like a Norge!

Post# 954988 , Reply# 14   8/28/2017 at 08:30 (270 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
So many years have passed

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and don't remember how long the "Cork Screw" has been around? Adapted by all makes

Post# 955061 , Reply# 15   8/28/2017 at 16:54 (270 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I thought the internet was here to increase ones knowledge?.....

I investigated and knew a lot before it surfaced....maybe give 30+ years for others to catch up?

but seems like their going backwards....think I will go ask DAMM....Mothers Against Dyslexia!

does anyone have a phonebook I could borrow?

Post# 955067 , Reply# 16   8/28/2017 at 17:04 (270 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        

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Yogitunes, I have no understanding of what an why you just said.

Post# 955090 , Reply# 17   8/28/2017 at 18:35 (270 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Best Maytag Agitator [ Of All Time ]

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The load sensor was the only one worth having [ of course you still needed to install a 50 cycle pulley as MTs were always under performing automatics ]

But it took MT over 50 years to put a decent agitator in the washers they designed and built, The LS was the first one that could turn over clothing without excessive clothing wear, MTs automatic washers tub was just too small in diameter for an agitator that was recycled from a square wringer tub.

John L.

Post# 955098 , Reply# 18   8/28/2017 at 19:06 (270 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean 1986 YouTube. )        

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The load sensor is a good agitator, and it seems to take stress off of the tub brake, and the motor on my Maytag A810 seems to not get as hot with the load sensor, as it would with the power fin.

Post# 955128 , Reply# 19   8/29/2017 at 00:55 (270 days old) by realvanman (Southern California)        
My first Maytag

I've never had or used a Maytag, until I just recently put my 1984 LA712 into service.

It has the blue powerfin, and combined with it's looooong, slooooooow, stroke on slow speed, I LOVE IT. Our clothes get turned and cleaned, but NOT beaten up and worn out. VERY little lint is produced, and I notice less in the dryer as well.

That ratcheting thing sounds like a crappy POS that is going to break at any moment...

Post# 955133 , Reply# 20   8/29/2017 at 06:02 (269 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Yes,I prefer the long,slow stroke agitators over the fast short stroke Orbital Maytags or DD WP-KN.The fast speeds are like putting your clothes in the blender!I have used both of the fast ones-GOT RID of them at the earliest chance.

Post# 955155 , Reply# 21   8/29/2017 at 08:06 (269 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
So do I

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"Yes,I prefer the long,slow stroke"

I imagine I'm not alone in that assessment. 

Post# 955167 , Reply# 22   8/29/2017 at 09:08 (269 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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careful, the Imperial Queens will have a field day with stuff like that....

had to go back out and return, yep, this is the Imperial pink section....

Load Sensor...

Long, Slow Strokes....

your about to send your Out of Balance buzzer screaming!

I kind of figure the size of the agitator has some input to rollover and the handling of larger loads....not just at the base, but all the way to the top....adding two inches to the barrel doesn't compensate for increased capacities...

Post# 955172 , Reply# 23   8/29/2017 at 09:50 (269 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Reply #5:

Perhaps I mis-read. I thought the reference was to the PF in one particular washer and the LS in another particular washer and the question was to what extent that info could apply to PF's and LS's in general.

Aside: I assume "LS" is a marketing term and no actual sensing occurs, correct?

I've always had the impression that long, slow strokes got the job done with considerably less wear & tear and less drama than short, fast ones.

I notice the two pieces of equipment have rather different base diameter to length height ratios.  i wonder how that might affect final outcomes.

Post# 955174 , Reply# 24   8/29/2017 at 10:04 (269 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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LS in effect actually does sense the load, as when needed, the corkscrew takes effect, turning in one direction, helping to push the load down....other times, it may just oscillate with the base...

although there may be PF or LS mentions.....what is also referenced, as you may have seen at some events, we switch out agitators, as in this case, trying out a different agitator, lets say, a PF on an orbital tranny...and vice versa!

Post# 955191 , Reply# 25   8/29/2017 at 13:29 (269 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        

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It depends, I suppose, on whether the 2 inches is added at the tip or around the shaft. Long as the strokes hit the sweet spot in the right rhythm, that's all that matters.

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