Thread Number: 72240  /  Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
What is Miele doing!?
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Post# 955117   8/28/2017 at 21:46 (293 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I don't understand. What is this M Chef and gourmet units and why would anyone want to cook fish in a block of ice or veal in beeswax?

... I must be missing something. What is going on?

Post# 955152 , Reply# 1   8/29/2017 at 07:51 (292 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        
Saw that to

Put something about it in my IFA 2017 thread over on Deluxe.

What is even more confusing is the fish in an iceblock. Just how???

Post# 955381 , Reply# 2   8/31/2017 at 02:23 (291 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
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"Whatever you do, don't call Miele's Wi-Fi-enabled Dialog Oven a microwave.

The German manufacturer of high-end appliances announced its latest wall oven Wednesday at the IFA trade show in Berlin. What makes the Dialog Oven special is that it cooks your food with electromagnetic waves (microwaves also use this same type of energy), traditional radiant heat from the top and bottom of the oven and a convection fan. The result, Miele says, is better-tasting food that cooks faster. The Dialog Oven will also work with an app that will let you browse recipes and send instructions to the oven through Wi-Fi.

But the Dialog Oven is more sophisticated than a microwave oven and more innovative than a traditional oven, Miele executives said.

"The Dialog Oven doesn't communicate with you," said Markus Miele, the company's managing director (and great-grandson of the company's cofounder and namesake). "It is having a dialogue with your food."

Here's how the Dialog Oven works: Two antennas located in the top of the oven emit electromagnetic waves in the frequency range around 915 MHz (the same range as most European mobile phone companies). The waves respond to the texture of the food and adjust accordingly. At the same time, the antennas measure how much energy the food has absorbed so they know when cooking is complete. This is all done in tandem with radiant heat and a convection fan for faster cooking that's gentler and more effective than microwave ovens, which typically use 2.45GHz, Miele executives said. 

Miele will begin to sell the Dialog Oven in Germany and Austria in 2018 for €7,990 (roughly $9,505, £7,355 and AU$12,035). Miele plans to eventually make the oven available throughout the rest of Europe before it considers selling it in the U.S., said Markus Miele, the company's managing director.

Established manufacturers and startups have taken stabs at innovating the oven in the last few years. AEG will finally release its Wi-Fi-enabled oven with a built-in camera in the door next year. The June Intelligent Oven includes cameras and facial recognition technology to identify certain foods and cook them automatically. The Tovala Smart Oven uses a scanner to automatically cook prepackaged meals. And companies like Samsung, LG and GE have added connectivity such as Wi-Fi and near-field communication (NFC) to let you use your smartphone to talk to your oven.

But Miele's Dialog Oven appears to be one of the first attempts to change the way ovens cook food rather than how you connect with it. The company has worked on the technology for the Dialog Oven for six years, Miele said. In the process, the manufacturer turned to other industries, including the human organ transplant and preservation, for the technology to make the Dialog Oven work.

Miele said he anticipates that the company will teach customers who buy the Dialog Oven how to use the new technology through in-home demos or other trainings."



For almost $10K it had better catch it, clean it, cook it, serve it, store it, wash up, and put the dishes away afterward! 


Post# 955388 , Reply# 3   8/31/2017 at 05:10 (290 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Oh God !!!

"and why would anyone want to cook fish in a block of ice or veal in beeswax? "


I can make a perfectly delicious gourmet meal on my $300.00 Kenmore range or any range for that matter and so could most of us here.

John L. has said it before that a expensive range will not make the food any better it's the person preparing the meal. Or something to that effect.

For almost $10K it had better catch it, clean it, cook it, serve it, store it, wash up, and put the dishes away afterward! "

Couldn't have said it better.

Veal in Bees Wax... Here we go... let's revive the Sous Vide thread.

Post# 955677 , Reply# 4   9/1/2017 at 23:07 (289 days old) by StandingPilot (Cleveland)        

My theory is if you need to cook something fast it's probably not worth eating. If you want fast then try the drive thru and eat while you're driving. It'll be a whole lot cheaper than a German oven, and no pesky repair bills.

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