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Detergents Currently Using In Twin Tubs or Wringer
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Post# 955367   8/30/2017 at 22:37 (268 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Got out the Hoover TT a few days ago, what with it not being used in a *VERY* long time felt it was being neglected. That and having learned if things are left too long seals in drain pump tend to dry out.

Was doing just two sheets and a duvet cover. The Miele often has problems balancing such a "small" load. It will bang, clang and otherwise register its unhappiness, so with an eye towards preserving the suspension system.... Well that and have been clearly told after the last $$$ repair bill, that if Big Bertha becomes ill again, that will be it as am warned off sinking any more money into.

Anyway did the wash using Tide liquid detergent. Not the "HE" sort, but regular (does it matter?) and noticed something interesting.

As one would expect the spinner loved not coping with all the froth that comes from high sudsing detergents. But rinsing overall was a treat! Took only two deep rinses (with a spin between each) in the main tub before water was coming out clear from the hose.

Have to admit part of the fun in using a TT is all that froth, but may have to rethink.

Did some washing in the Maytag wringer a week or so ago, again using the same Tide liquid, and noticed the same thing. Rinsing was achieved using far less water and effort than with a high sudsing product.

Considering one has a rather large stash of vintage high dilution (but also high froth)detergents that one was saving for TT or wringer use, this could put a completely different complexion on things.

Going by videos on Youtube it seems many use high froth detergents in their wringer or twin tubs.

Post# 955385 , Reply# 1   8/31/2017 at 04:17 (268 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Haven't used non-HE Tide for years, but am glad they've got sudsing under control in that version. The HE-Turbo formulation has fast-collapsing suds which makes for better rinsing when using Tide in softened water . At any rate, anything that makes for more thorough rinsing is great in my book, even if it means losing that classic layer-of-suds look during the wash.

Only saw a Hoover Twin Tub in action a few times, but enjoyed watching the heaving blanket of suds atop the churning wash water. Good to hear Big Bertha is doing well after your cash layout for her suspension system. When I was young, friends of the family had a square-tub Maytag wringer in their basement. I was amazed at how quiet it was. It would be washing away in near silence. Often think it would be great fun to play with a wringer washer...but also wonder how quickly that would wear off knowing my penchant for convenience.

Have noticed that Tide Ultra Stain Release (HE Turbo) liquid doesn't remove stains as well in the SQ top-loader as it did in a HE front-loader despite significantly increased dosage. CR states the HE formulation is not designed for use in non-HE machines, but the SQ user guide advises to use only HE detergent---I'm assuming to make the Normal Eco cycle's spray rinse more effective.

I've found Persil Proclean 2-In-1, however, works equally well in the SQ, so that may have to become my daily driver. Looking forward to trying the new, lower sudsing/better rinsing '10 Dimensions' version that others have commented on. It's now stocked at the HyVee grocery store I shop at.

Post# 955398 , Reply# 2   8/31/2017 at 06:51 (267 days old) by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Detergent suds

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I think Procter & Gamble have indeed tweaked their formulations to be less foamy.

I had noticed recently that the Ariel powder my parents use didn't create as much suds as it did previously.

A short time ago, I did a small load of coloureds with 'Daz 65 Years' powder (doesn't contain oxygen bleach). I used about 80ml for four T-shirts, a similar number of undies and a pair of dark socks. I was fully expecting to see a sea of foam 3/4 of the way up the door.

In actual fact, the foam was very controlled, only about a tablespoonful or two of suds on the very bottom of the door seal. When tumbling, I could clearly see the wash solution in the drum before the clothes flopped back down, and again there were subdued suds. As for rinsing, it seemed to rinse out very well indeed.

Post# 955409 , Reply# 3   8/31/2017 at 08:00 (267 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Had the same sort of experience using Persil Proclean Power-Pearls. Love the froth it can achieve, but rinsing is a breeze.

Post# 955424 , Reply# 4   8/31/2017 at 09:27 (267 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA))        

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I own a Maytag J2L and I use Persil Pro-Clean Power liquid or regular Tide Liquid and They are both very low sudsing. I actually enjoy the Persil even more than Tide I think it does a better job.

Post# 955643 , Reply# 5   9/1/2017 at 18:29 (266 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Thanks guys for chiming in

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With twin tub and other semi-automatic washing machines easier rinsing is the better far as one is concerned. *LOL*

Especially with the Hoover TT; again it isn't so much the transferring back and froth of the washing; but the noise from motor that runs the spinner/drain pump.

Post# 955679 , Reply# 6   9/1/2017 at 23:46 (266 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Which Hoover model do you have, L?

I did four loads in my Hoover Spin-a-Rinse the other day with Amway SA8 and had a very easy time rinsing. Approx. 2-2.5 gallons per "cycle" of fill and spin, four cycles later I had clear water coming from the drain hose.

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Post# 955682 , Reply# 7   9/2/2017 at 00:10 (266 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Here is my baby:

Was nearly NIB/low use upon arrival and pretty much remains so today. Though one wash with some vintage Cheer detergent took the shine off wash tub, managed to restore it a bit with some gentle polishing.

Yes, it is easy to get clear rinsing with some vintage powder detergents. Think the key is they are/were loaded with phosphates instead of fillers and Zeolites.

Am always amazed at how clear the rinses are when using phosphate powders. OTOH Tide and other more modern formulas are another matter.

Post# 955688 , Reply# 8   9/2/2017 at 01:01 (266 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Of course the Zeolites are insoluble and that might account for a lot of cloudiness in the rinse water. As you say the old phosphate products don't seem to have any problem.

A few years ago a kind Aussie member sent me some of their last low-phosphate powders. I noticed that they were taking two rinses to get clear rinse water, and sure enough zeolites were listed as an additional ingredient.

Post# 955693 , Reply# 9   9/2/2017 at 04:17 (266 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Ohh yes,

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In order to reduce phosphate content and get tree huggers and or governments off their backs, laundry detergent makers turned to other substances besides. Zeolites and washing soda are the two most common.

When you say "now with *lower* phosphate* content on vintage detergent packets, then that told the tale...

Post# 955696 , Reply# 10   9/2/2017 at 05:22 (265 days old) by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Daz 'Handwash & Twin-Tub' Powder

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Sodium Sulfate
Sodium C10-13 Alkyl Benzenesulfonate
Sodium Carbonate
Sodium Silicate
Sodium Carbonate Peroxide
Sodium Acrylic Acid/MA Copolymer
Sodium Laureth Sulfate
Tetrasodium Etidronate
Hydrated Silica
C14-15 Pareth-n
Dodecylbenzene Sulfonic Acid
Sulfuric Acid
Brightener 15
Sodium Chloride
Polyvinyl Alcohol
Sodium Hydroxide
Titanium Dioxide

Notice the lack of zeolites, and only one enzyme.

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