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Post# 959994   10/1/2017 at 03:38 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Shall we?

Such wonderful vintage machines.


First up, a Vorwerk twin tub.



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Post# 959995 , Reply# 1   10/1/2017 at 03:43 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Next

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Older Miele toploader



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Post# 959996 , Reply# 2   10/1/2017 at 03:44 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Not so old Siemens

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But looks snazzy just the same.



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Post# 959997 , Reply# 3   10/1/2017 at 03:46 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Privileg

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Post# 959998 , Reply# 4   10/1/2017 at 03:47 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Miele!

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Who always gets my vote.



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Post# 959999 , Reply# 5   10/1/2017 at 03:49 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another Privileg

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Looks built like a tank!



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Post# 960000 , Reply# 6   10/1/2017 at 03:50 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Bosch Toplader

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Interestingly modern looking!



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Post# 960001 , Reply# 7   10/1/2017 at 03:53 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Best for last!

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Sharpf Semiautomatic

Drool, drool.




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Post# 960002 , Reply# 8   10/1/2017 at 03:55 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Bonus Round

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Lavalux Waschmaschine Waschbuffett



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Post# 960031 , Reply# 9   10/1/2017 at 12:42 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Great machines! Thanks for sharing these. The Sharpf Semiautomatic is to die for! I knew there was something like that, but had never seen it before.

Some sidenotes:

The first machine, the Vorwerk, is a relabeled AEG Turnette. It's not a twintub btw, there is no spinner. You need a separate spindryer to spin the laundry. Here's another one: www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de...

The Privileg machines were relabelled Zanussi's. Privileg was sold by the popular mail catalogue retailer Quelle (Versandhaus in German).

The not so old Siemens is similar to my somewhat cheaper model Siemens that I bought 4 years ago.

www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...

Great machines, but a bit sensitive in the spin cycle.

The Lavalux is a lovely machine. There was also a later model that had a variant with an agitator called Agilux. I don't know exactly about Germany, but in the NL twintubs weren't very popular (my mother had one though) because fully automatic machines became affordable rather fast. When the automatics came onto the market here soon there were frontloaders that were around the same price as an expensive twintub.





Post# 960085 , Reply# 10   10/1/2017 at 16:57 by bellalaundry (Hamilton, Canada)        
Such a tease

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seeing these European marvels! I am on the hunt (via internet) for a Miele 65 wringer washer.

Then I have to hope that the seller will consider shipping!

Great pics Laundress!


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Post# 960086 , Reply# 11   10/1/2017 at 17:10 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
@Louis

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Danke schön for all the background information, knew if anyone would have it, that would be you.

One wonders being older machines if the Scharf and AEG would run "fine" on 60hz frequency. Not that one has a snowball's chance in Hades of ever seeing the things on this side of pond, and certainly won't be buying off ebay and shipping. But still one can dream.....

@bellalaundry

If one hits the lottery or comes into a sudden windfall it would be the only way to get those great German machines onto these shores. Go around, buy them up, hire a shipping crate and pack it full... *LOL*

If you've nosed around Germany eBay or whatever sites you'd know even for small things many German sellers don't do shipping. On larger items such as laundry appliances that is nearly universal. This applies within Germany, one can only imagine response for EU shipping....

Once bought a Kaltmangel from Germany. To my surprise seller agreed to ship. Damn silly fool did not pack the thing well and it arrived with major damage. Still useable to some extent, but needs parts that one cannot readily find.


Post# 960088 , Reply# 12   10/1/2017 at 17:17 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Miele Wringer

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Years ago now saw a Miele wringer washer on fleaPay, or maybe it was CL being offered up for sale in USA.

The thing had a tub made of wood with a wringer attached, which one thought was odd and had to be ancient. Until later found old brochures from Miele indicating they made such things late into the 1950's Can you imagine? Guess things were that bad in post war Germany.


Post# 960090 , Reply# 13   10/1/2017 at 17:23 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"Vorwerk, is a relabeled AEG Turnette"

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AEG is a puzzle to me; it seems they were always either having others make some of their laundry appliances for them, or vice-versa.

Followed the thread about Lavamat topladers and it becomes confusing since it is hard to nail down what exactly AEG produced in house, versus merely slapped their name onto something made by someone else.


Post# 960101 , Reply# 14   10/1/2017 at 19:46 by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Yes, they would run on 60Hz.

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The motors would run 10% faster, though - which means there'd be some pretty strong agitation (and really fast pumping).

Thank you for the walk down memory lane - it's cool!


Post# 960102 , Reply# 15   10/1/2017 at 19:55 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
That AEG Lavalux

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Seems rather huge. Not at all "compact" like a Hoovermatic.

Name "Waschbuffett" is rather apt; throw a board or something stable on top and finish off with a tablecloth have you've got a sideboard.


Post# 960131 , Reply# 16   10/2/2017 at 00:08 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Vintage Miele washer made of wood

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From 1949! Can you imagine, the war had been over for four years and Miele was producing washing machines made from wood.





Here's me thinking housewives in UK were worse off saddled with twin tubs or still using a copper and mangle.

But then again judging from this Sunil spot many housewives in Germany would have welcomed that Miele washer, wood or no:






Post# 960143 , Reply# 17   10/2/2017 at 04:36 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, Miele indeed made those wooden washing machines for a long time, but by that time they also had brought more modern machines on the market. I think those wooden washing machines were meant for farmers etc. A neighbour of my grandparents had one, she used it into the early 70's. She really liked it and kept it until her husband forced her to buy something new. He sold Bosch washing machines, my mother bought her Bosch automatic in the 1960's from him!

I suppose the Sunil video was situated in social housing in Germany. Most likely they didn't get the modern stuff very early.


Post# 960146 , Reply# 18   10/2/2017 at 05:05 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Sharpf Semiautomatic

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If you look closely at picture, to side of washer is a nice big crate of Persil 59; same as one has in stash. Wonder if there is anything left inside?

Also wonder if the Persil 59 was purchased to be used in the Sharpf washer.


Post# 960149 , Reply# 19   10/2/2017 at 05:17 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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The Sharpf was apparently a museum piece no longer exhibitioned. There might be some boxes left in the carton crate, but most likely not. If there were any left perhaps they were displayed somewhere else in the museum. Just a wild guess though.

Post# 960150 , Reply# 20   10/2/2017 at 05:19 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Here are some pictures of an AEG Turnette, similar to the Vorwerk. The Vorwerk has a few more options on the cycle selector for small loads.



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Post# 960153 , Reply# 21   10/2/2017 at 05:30 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
This Vorwerk Is A Puzzle To Me

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So by extension would be the AEG Turnette.

Without a means of extraction are they assuming Madame already had a mangle or spin dryer? If not one assumes either Vorwerk or AEG were happy to supply the latter at least.


Post# 960161 , Reply# 22   10/2/2017 at 06:12 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, these were meant to be accompanied by a spin dryer, indeed the preference would be from the same brand. These compact machines (the washing machine is around 65cm high) were designed for smaller housing where there was no space for a full size Waschbüffet.

AFAIK Vorwerk never manufactured a washing machine by itself, but were always relabeled machines, often AEG's.


Post# 960163 , Reply# 23   10/2/2017 at 06:20 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Again.....

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AEG was either making appliances for someone else, or they were having their name slapped onto someone else's appliances.

One day we're going to have to start an AEG thread and see where things started and ended. *LOL*


Post# 960167 , Reply# 24   10/2/2017 at 07:08 by potatochips (Nova Scotia)        

Ahh yes! European machines. I always find the styling differences between Europe and the US to be interesting.

Post# 960176 , Reply# 25   10/2/2017 at 07:57 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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"AEG was either making appliances for someone else, or they were having their name slapped onto someone else's appliances."

They were not worse than other European brands. For example here's a Vorwerk that's a relabelled Bosch.



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Post# 960178 , Reply# 26   10/2/2017 at 08:04 by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        
Miele 65

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There are a few of them on eBay Kleinanzeigen. But the problems is the shipping. A lot of German sellers are not willing to ship abroad. And when they are, it will cost you an arm and a leg.

www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de...



Post# 960195 , Reply# 27   10/2/2017 at 09:55 by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

One thing is certain: aus, ausser, bei, mit, nach, seit, von, und zu brauchen IMMER DATIV. ;)

Post# 960358 , Reply# 28   10/3/2017 at 04:45 by aussie-plugs (Melbourne, Australia)        
und dabei gibt's auch ...

an, auf, hinter, in, neben, vor, unter, ueber, zswischen.

Und dazu stehen noch:

fuer, um, durch gegen, entlang, bis, ohne, wider - IMMER AKUSATIV

The ad for Sunil was also very cute. Although I don't understand how we got from rinsing without additives to ready for the line ... without a mangle or spinner in sight ...


Post# 960359 , Reply# 29   10/3/2017 at 04:48 by aussie-plugs (Melbourne, Australia)        
Found it ...

Just watched it again. The wringer is in the background ... :-)

Post# 960363 , Reply# 30   10/3/2017 at 05:55 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Waschmangel/Wringmaschine

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Is in back of Peter's mother, screen left.

You can see it attached to the huge (and rather new and shiny) wash tub.



Post# 960525 , Reply# 31   10/4/2017 at 01:43 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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ich bin; du bist; er, sie, es ist

wir sind; ihr seid; sie sind; Sie sind


Post# 960545 , Reply# 32   10/4/2017 at 08:27 by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
German has four cases

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Which makes things very easy for native English speakers who grew up before the 'objective' case abomination of the past 30 years.

Like hell we we don't distinguish between Accusative and Dative in English. Just, we use syntactical grammar to make the distinction or transitive verbs.


Post# 960550 , Reply# 33   10/4/2017 at 09:41 by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

Maybe 12,000,000 Germans emigrated to USA 1870-1920 in order to flee German grammar ;) (meine Ururgrosseltern waren in 1878 aus Ostpreußen angekommen----sparsam, fleißig, pünktlich, und sehr, sehr DICKKÖPFIG)

Post# 960551 , Reply# 34   10/4/2017 at 09:43 by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

ps when I recite these preposition lists to German speakers, they have no idea that such lists, not to mention their required memorization, even exist.

Post# 960552 , Reply# 35   10/4/2017 at 09:47 by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

One aspect of grammar for which I am ridiculed: Konjunktiv I:

"Panthera sagte, daß die Speise im neuen Restaurant sehr gut seien (Meinungsfrage)"

versus

"Panthera sagte, das der neue Restaurant Montags geschlossen ist" (Tatsache)

They just laugh and insist that NO ONE uses Konjunktiv I in spoken German any more. They would just use "sind".


Post# 960623 , Reply# 36   10/4/2017 at 17:08 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another AEG Turnamat Surfaces

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Germany is a treasure trove!

www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de...


Post# 960639 , Reply# 37   10/4/2017 at 19:29 by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Ausser mir,

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I use the Konjunktiv moods, they just sound right. If there were a good restaurant I Cheyenne, I'd go there!


Post# 960643 , Reply# 38   10/4/2017 at 19:42 by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan)        

I remember those preposition lists in German class in 9th grade!





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