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Thread Number: 72802
/ Tag: Other Home Products or Autos
Something for you, Hans ~ 1957 Chrysler dealer promo |
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| Post# 961873 10/11/2017 at 01:40 (2,388 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
Unless you've already seen it, as soon as I read your posts in "Old cars vs New cars" I thought of something I saw on YouTube. It is a Chrysler dealer promotional called "You're on the Test Track." There is also one from 1958 with popular mechanics writer, Tom McCahill.
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| Post# 961929 , Reply# 2 10/11/2017 at 10:47 (2,388 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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Dynaslush...
My biggest laugh with the film was when the Buick Super just dropped back as soon as the Torqueflite and Hydramatic that actually have gears accelerated instead of relying on a torque converter alone.
I do think that the high speed cornering test was biased though, just look as to the path the GM cars take vs the Chrysler cars, they clearly choose to drive closer to the gravel. | ||
| Post# 961966 , Reply# 3 10/11/2017 at 13:58 (2,387 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
the 354 poly (semi-hemi)... | ||
| Post# 961969 , Reply# 4 10/11/2017 at 14:10 (2,387 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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still miss | ||
| Post# 962004 , Reply# 5 10/11/2017 at 16:53 (2,387 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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You really have to Drive a old Chrysler product to understand how much better it handles and drives, the steering is my favorite thing, many people don't like it because its totally effortless, but I LOVE it, you can hit a pothole or run off the shoulder of the road with 1 finger on the wheel and still have control. | ||
| Post# 962033 , Reply# 7 10/11/2017 at 20:39 (2,387 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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Post# 962043 , Reply# 9 10/11/2017 at 22:08 (2,387 days old) by ea56  (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Cadillacs with Dynaflow
I had read about this before too Steve. Here is the clip from Wikipedia about this:
The early 1950s Cadillacs were normally equipped with Hydramatic transmissions. In 1953 the General Motors Hydramatic Plant burned to the ground, leaving Cadillac without a source of transmissions. Buick Dynaflow transmissions were hastily adapted to Cadillac mount points, and some 19,000 1953 Model 62 Cadillacs, and some 28,000 Cadillacs of all models, were equipped with Dynaflow transmissions. Several thousand 1953 Oldsmobiles were also equipped with Dynaflow. I owned a 67 Buick Skylark 2 dr HT from the spring of 76 til the fall of 81. The car was without doubt the most favorite car I ever owned. The Twin Turbine Dynaflow was a smooth as silk and I consistantly got 19 mpg. I know this because the float for the gas gauge stuck for about a year, so I had to keep track of my milage so I wouldn't run out of gas, which never happened. Then one day when I went over some RR tracks fast the gauge suddenly began to registar again, the float must have been rusted and the sharp movement shook it loose. I also owned a 55 Cadillac Coupe DeVille for about 8 months in 74. That big old boat just floated, but big as it was I used to parallel park it in downtown San Francisco, and it took the curves of the north coast Hwy 1 like a much smaller car, handled with ease, the power brakes were very good, little fade and they didn't grab like a lot of the power brakes on 50's and 60's cars. But the gas milage, terrible! I could actually watch the gas gauge go down on the Waldo Grade. It got about 8 mpg and used a quart of oil with every fill up. But for a 19 year old car at the time, with 100,000 plus miles it really flew. And if you've never driven a car with vacuum wipers before, its a different experience. They will slow to almost a stop on acceleration. The Hydramatic shifted smoothly and predictably. I got rid of it because it was a money pit and there was gas rationing, but I sure enjoyed that Cadillac while I had it. You could squeeze four in the front and another four in the back, so it was popular with friends. Eddie | ||
| Post# 962078 , Reply# 11 10/12/2017 at 07:00 (2,387 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Of course The 63still had the 390 engine, the 64 not only had the new Turbo Hydra Matic, it also had the new 429 engine, I had a 66 and let me tell you, for a big heavy car, it would really move! | ||
| Post# 962129 , Reply# 13 10/12/2017 at 11:32 (2,387 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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TorqueFlite... | ||
| Post# 962177 , Reply# 16 10/12/2017 at 16:56 (2,386 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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And NO I don't drive like that now, now I drive like a old Lady..LOL | ||
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Post# 962187 , Reply# 18 10/12/2017 at 17:15 (2,386 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA ) |
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Without going too far off topic...
TorqueFlite was the first automatic with a Simpson Gearset, which Chrysler had to licence...Ford's 1958 3-speed Cruise-O-Matic and GM's 1964
3 speed Turbo-Hydra Matic also used the Simpson Gearset, which leads many to believe that they copied TF, which is partially true. The 1940-1965 Hydra-Matic used a Fluid Coupling, which does not multiply torque like a torque converter, which is why the were 4 speed units with a low 1st gear ration to compensate. They were not overdrive units, since top gear had a 1:1 ratio. The 'Slim-Jim' Roto-Hydramatics were strange birds indeed...I would run screaming from them! This post was last edited 10/12/2017 at 17:37 | ||
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Post# 962224 , Reply# 21 10/12/2017 at 22:01 (2,386 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Chrysler Push Button Automatic Transmissions The goverment had nothing to due with this cool feature being discontinued, but rather public opinion, a survey showed that about 10% of car buyers in the US would NOT BUY a Chrysler automobile because of this feature, so Chrysler decided that it was not worth it to kill off the chance to sell their cars to even 10% of the buying public. | ||
| Post# 962225 , Reply# 22 10/12/2017 at 22:17 (2,386 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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Post# 962273 , Reply# 24 10/13/2017 at 09:43 (2,386 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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PNDLR
The reason early automatic transmission shift quadrants were set up PNDLR on early Powerglides and Dynaflows was to make it easier to “rock” your car from being stuck in sand, mud or snow by shifting quickly between low and reverse. There are at least a few You Tube videos about this, and it is also explained in the owners manuals of these earlier cars.
This did pose a problem though for people that were used to driving automatics without the R at the end of the quadrant. I saw this happen to a girl that lived up the road from us. She was following the school bus up a steep grade in her Dads 57 Buick Stationwagon, when she needed to shift to Low she instinctively pulled the lever down to what she thought was Low and dropped her Dads transmission on the spot. Lucky for her that her Dad had a wrecking yard and a tow truck just 2 miles up the road when this happened. Eddie | ||
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Post# 962276 , Reply# 25 10/13/2017 at 09:50 (2,386 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan) |
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Here's the dash of my l964 Dodge 440 with the pushbutton transmission system located to the left of the steering wheel. I often wondered why they didn't put it on the right, where most people were used to having the transmission controls, but I think it would have put too many buttons on that side with the heat/defrost controls and the radio.
Funny how some new cars are using buttons again for transmission control, or in the case of my 2017 Chrysler Pacifica, a round dial that you turn to engage the transmission. My Dodge 440 has a 318 engine, and while it doesn't get too much use these days, the acceleration on that car is incredible, and the TorqueFlite shifts almost seamlessly.
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| Post# 962292 , Reply# 26 10/13/2017 at 12:15 (2,386 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
Eddie... ...isn't that interesting. I always wondered why some cars had reverse at the end of gear selection. The only car I've ever driven with push-button drive was back in high school . My friend's dad had a 64 Dart convertible which we'd cruise around in thinking we were the "cool guys". Another friend had an Edsel with Teletouch but I never drove it. Back then it was considered embarrassing to be seen in an Edsel.
Kevin, I like that photo. That steering wheel has tasteful "60's Class".
They say people refused to touch the Teletouch.
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Post# 962671 , Reply# 27 10/15/2017 at 09:40 (2,384 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ) |
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The larger Ramblers also used a push button automatic from 1958 to 1962. It was a Borg Warner unit.
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Post# 962727 , Reply# 28 10/15/2017 at 16:27 (2,383 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Post# 962835 , Reply# 29 10/16/2017 at 08:50 (2,383 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Yes, I remember putting them in Reverse, however, I don't think I knew I was putting it in Park. The assumption was it wouldn't roll if left in Reverse. | ||
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Post# 962839 , Reply# 30 10/16/2017 at 09:25 (2,383 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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" Hydra-Matic didn’t have a Park position until the second-generation Controlled Coupling Hydra-Matic arrived in 1956, but with the engine off, the reverse pawl would effectively lock the transmission output shaft, serving the same purpose."
Not sure why they did it that way, but people who drove manual transmissions were used to leaving them in gear when they parked. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Supersuds's LINK | ||
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