Thread Number: 72826
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Post# 962233   10/12/2017 at 23:27 (2,380 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I remember this advertisment from the 80s! While I have never loaded a 2800 model I loaded quite a few GE designs MOL and BOL models. I dont dispute you can fully load all those dishes and etc, etc in the GE! I was always disappointed they didnt continue with the Potscrubber2 design but that is beside the point! My point is all that dinnerware and cookware can be loaded in the other 4 competitor models if you know how to load a dishwasher. I was fortunate enough to have used all those 4 competitor models at different times and I never had a problem loading. In fact even though I consider myself a good loader - I still think the GE was the hardest of the 5 models especially the way they had the location of the popup tower! But even with the Kenmore D&M lack of height I still got tall wine glasses in by laying them halfway down and with the broiler pan I loaded on the far left and the upper arm still turned. The KitchenAid I loaded many times and that definatly was No problem - compared to the diagram I would drop the right side of the top rack and it held tall wine glasses. You can place the thin part of the broiler pan on the bottom right! The way the upper rack was was configured it wouldnt get in the way! The thicker part of the broiler pan can be placed along the back bottom! As for the Whirlpool I had a portable power clean and I placed the wine glasses half way down much the way I loaded the kenmore D&M! I didnt have the adjustable upper rack so it was harder but can be done! A friend of mine had a close to TOL model and it was easier to load stemware in! The broiler pan was no problem going in the bottom rack! The central tower didnt get in the way of loading any type of load! I didnt mind the silverware basket in the door as long as you loaded the plates in the front the silverware cleaned well at least for me! As for the Maytag that was a real different animal. I knew a few people that had them but only one friend had a basic wu300 I loaded many times. At first she moved to this condo that had one and was so confused trying to load it! I picked up quickly and she had large heavy dinnerware with lots of serving dishes. She was used to a MOL D&M kenmore but once she got used to the maytag she liked it so much better! Putting tall wine glasses was no problem and loading all kinds of large serving dishes and cookware went in with ease! The only negative to the matag was it was the noisest! To me these were all good dishwashers! Maybe the D&M was a notch lower because of no filter!
I was wondering if more of you guys want to put your openions in. I was Lucky enough to do BOB loads in all these machines! Thanks for listening, Peter
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Post# 962748 , Reply# 3   10/15/2017 at 20:01 (2,377 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)   |   | |
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I had this model and it washed very well. I bought it as a floor sample for around $300.00. It lasted for a while then the control panel went dead. |
Post# 962757 , Reply# 4   10/15/2017 at 21:07 (2,377 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 962763 , Reply# 5   10/15/2017 at 21:41 (2,377 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Yes the top rack is nice, But the lower rack holds about nothing in the way of lots of dishes.
The thing that the GE DW holds that the others don't is the GE broiler pan, well I seldom broil 20 hamburgers, so I have a smaller broiler pan that only holds 6 hamburgers.
If you look at the loaded GE DW it only has a few dinner plates, well I usually have anywhere from 6-12 dinner plates in a load, when I had a GE DW like the one in the ad it would only hold about 7 dinner plates.
I think that you could select a load of dishes for any DW that would fit in it but not fit most other DWs.
John L.
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Post# 962778 , Reply# 6   10/15/2017 at 23:10 (2,377 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I agree with John - it is bull - I was able to put a broiler pan of the same size in both the kitchenaid and whirlpool - plus I bet it would still fit in the RR maytag! I attached from the 2800 manual suggested loading - with the popup tower you can see how much space you loose. Does anyone have Bob load experience with a GE?
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Post# 962785 , Reply# 7   10/15/2017 at 23:28 (2,377 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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notice how the whirlpool will still let you load a broiler pan on the left side and still let you get a lot of dishes in even with a tower! no loading hassel!
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Post# 962796 , Reply# 8   10/16/2017 at 00:03 (2,377 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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What Definitely helped WP was putting that silverware basket on the door to get more space on the bottom rack despite a tower. I always thought that was a clever idea that WP did that. |
Post# 962853 , Reply# 10   10/16/2017 at 11:01 (2,377 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I had a basic GE gsd500 when I lived in a apartment in the 80s. Even though the pop up tower annoyed me - I was able to pack it full with good results. Mine didn't have a filter it was bol! so I needed to remove extra scraps or they would redeposit back on the dishes! The one thing I did like better about the GE over WP was all models were 120 degree water temp enabled! Both GE and kitchenaid in the 80s had that capability where WP didn't unless you had the upper end models! On the RR maytags you needed 140 degree until later on when they put a temp boost on their upper end models!
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Post# 962934 , Reply# 12   10/16/2017 at 20:35 (2,376 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 962954 , Reply# 13   10/17/2017 at 00:22 (2,376 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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i've used a countertop dishwasher (Electrolux), exactly the same design as Haier, Magic Chef, SPT, Danby, whatever OEM brand here in the US) And until today I am shocked with the huge loads those "microwave oven style tiny things" can handle. For their size, they should be called T.A.R.D.I.S. |
Post# 963188 , Reply# 14   10/18/2017 at 16:01 (2,374 days old) by potatochips ( )   |   | |
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Hey Pete, these are the two upper rack photos that accompany the bottom racks. Unfortunately I don't have anymore.
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Post# 963253 , Reply# 15   10/18/2017 at 21:55 (2,374 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 963280 , Reply# 17   10/19/2017 at 00:57 (2,374 days old) by mjg0619 (Scranton, Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Here, circled in red, is my current dishwasher........anybody have a spare reverse-rack Maytag JetClean laying around? LOL
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Post# 963326 , Reply# 19   10/19/2017 at 08:22 (2,374 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 963671 , Reply# 20   10/21/2017 at 13:03 (2,372 days old) by mjg0619 (Scranton, Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Post# 963716 , Reply# 22   10/21/2017 at 18:42 (2,371 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 963759 , Reply# 23   10/21/2017 at 23:12 (2,371 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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all these new dishwashers don't come near to the performance and cycle time saving of the older machines! as for the newer ones the Maytag is one of the best and I sell a lot of them at home depot! as for the Bosch I don't sell them but on these newer models that have been the running for the past 4 years I hear and read mostly good things about them! My friend Rayjay on the club has one now for nealy 2 years and always raves about it! I even saw him do Bob loads in it and it cleans beautifully and loads nice and the cycle time is somewhat shorter than some others!
If I had to buy a new DW now I would check the cycle times and pick the ones with the shortest time as well as the best performance! stay away from LG, samsung and Frigidaire! |
Post# 963827 , Reply# 24   10/22/2017 at 07:19 (2,371 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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I'll put in a good word for the Whirlpool WDF130. $379.00 MSRP. It's a very basic machine with three cycles (Heavy, Normal, 1-Hr). The only options are Heated Wash (but only to 120 degrees), Heated Dry and 4-Hr. Delay Start. Cleans like a champ even on the 1-Hr cycle. Both racks are washed simultaneously. No fold-down tines or adjustable racks.
Eddie (ea56) has one and gives it high marks, as well. It probably isn't deserving of 'Hurricane In A Box' status, but it definitely falls within the designation of 'Severe Thunderstorm With High Winds.' BobLoad it to your heart's content. Everything will emerge clean. Food For Thought: 1. I have the portable version and it is LOUD. Undercounter installation may dampen the racket. Naturally, it's a bit less raucous when fully loaded. If you run half-loads (as I do sometimes) sounds like the fire department is washing the sides of a pole barn. Fortunately, you'll rarely need to use anything but the 1-Hr. cycle. Note: Heated Wash option not available on this cycle. 2. Not great at drying, even when the brief Heated Dry option is selected. 3. Others have complained about tine placement on the upper rack (especially for glassware and cups). I've had no problem adapting to it. |