Thread Number: 72833
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Yet more "I'm getting too old" |
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Post# 962339 , Reply# 2   10/13/2017 at 18:16 (2,357 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 962341 , Reply# 3   10/13/2017 at 18:24 (2,357 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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Well, my e brake works by placing your left foot on it and pressing down. |
Post# 962348 , Reply# 5   10/13/2017 at 19:02 (2,357 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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My current Chevy Malibu has that little button for the emergency brake. So much easier with a proper pull up hand brake. |
Post# 962350 , Reply# 6   10/13/2017 at 19:19 (2,357 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 962361 , Reply# 7   10/13/2017 at 20:09 (2,357 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Break down and give trouble...Chrysler had the BEST parking brake ever up until 1962, they had a brake drum behind the transmission that locked up the whole rear end! |
Post# 962371 , Reply# 8   10/13/2017 at 20:59 (2,357 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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first of all remember, anything electrical in a vehicle, something like a sensor, or mainly a FUSE blows out, THERE IS NO BRAKE!!!...regular or emergency....and if your battery dies, well then it sucks to be you.....
I had a 1993 Taurus SHO, the master cylinder had a sensor underneath that blew out on me, as with any nightmare, the second I was over the hump of Rt40 Summit Mountain, steep incline downhill, went to push the brake, and it went to the floor......lucky for this vehicle, the emergency foot brake operates like a regular brake pedal.....scary and rough, but made it to the bottom safely.....nothing will scare you more than pushing on the brake, and nothing happens..... any vehicle with pedals that adjust for the driver are electrically controlled.....again, you blow a fuse, and no accelerator or brake.... fortunate for my SUV's, they all have a cable driven hand brake.... |
Post# 962382 , Reply# 10   10/13/2017 at 22:30 (2,357 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 962392 , Reply# 11   10/14/2017 at 01:11 (2,357 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 962398 , Reply# 12   10/14/2017 at 05:16 (2,357 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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I love the creature comforts of my 2014 Ford Fusion, but have to agree that the electronic "parking brake" (no mention of its usefulness in emergency situations) is a bit unsettling.
In college, the brakes went out on my 1969 Olds Delta 88. I drove it around Moorhead, MN for two weeks using only the emergency brake. I could make 3 or 4 in-city stops with it, then had to pull over and let the brake recover for a couple of minutes before continuing on. Drove it home the same way (140 miles) so my stepfather could fix it. Insanely unsafe, I know; but typical behavior for a 19-year old male with perceived invincibility who thinks, "Oh, this will work just fine until it can be repaired!" |
Post# 962448 , Reply# 14   10/14/2017 at 09:28 (2,357 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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The Emergency Brake in an old Cadillac could not be locked in place with the car out of Park and the engine running. So It was a TRUE Emergency Brake you could use just like the regular brake pedal. I thought that was a great feature. |
Post# 962455 , Reply# 15   10/14/2017 at 10:05 (2,357 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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2016.5 Mazda CX-5, with electronic parking brake. Seems to work fine, minus a battery failure or switch wearing out. This post was last edited 10/14/2017 at 10:29 |
Post# 962457 , Reply# 16   10/14/2017 at 10:07 (2,357 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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that true emergency brake was a great feature on the SHO....never seen one like it on any other car....
in PARK, you would press/set the emergency brake pedal.....you could manually release it with the hand pull, or shift into DRIVE, and it would release automatically....and while in DRIVE, it would operate just like a regular brake pedal.... yes, I had my rear brakes lock in place during a winter storm, so I wouldn't set it during the winter months, it was a 5speed manual, so I would leave it in gear, and turn the wheels toward the curb.... but in reality, manual shift or Automatic, you should set your emergency brake while parked.....and it should be applied while your foot is on the brake, just after you shifted to park......it relieves the lock on the transmission.... too many cars, especially Front Wheel Drive vehicles, parked on an incline, people find it hard to shift out of park while the vehicle is putting pressure on the drive train.....many times a tow truck had to pull the car backwards about 2 inches in order to shift it out of PARK.... I have seen people break their shift lever off trying to move it.... |
Post# 962460 , Reply# 17   10/14/2017 at 10:14 (2,357 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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In the "old days" before dual circuit hydraulic braking systems, the cable actuated brake COULD actually be used to stop the car in the event the hydraulic system failed - hence the name "emergency brake".
With the advent of dual circuit hydraulic braking systems, the cable actuated brake became the "parking brake" and was really only good for ensuring the car didn't roll away when parked. Automatic transmission equipped cars had the additional safety of locking up the transmission with the "parking pawl" (when transmission was shifted to the PARK position) but the parking brake was still additional insurance against the car rolling away on steep inclines when parked. Electrically actuated parking brakes cannot even be activated when the car is in motion. Most are automatically released when the accelerator is pressed. My 2011 Nissan Leaf has one and it's never given me any troubles. There is a manual release in the cargo area in the event the electric actuator fails or cannot be used due to a dead battery or the like. I am one that ALWAYS sets the parking brake when parking. Your vehicle is actually LESS likely to have a "parking brake freeze up" if the parking brake is used regularly. SO - don't say "E-brake" or "emergency brake" in regards to modern cars. The "now" term is "parking brake". |
Post# 962483 , Reply# 18   10/14/2017 at 13:24 (2,357 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I've always used parking brakes, and my parents did, too, starting in the 1970s. I think they started due to news stories about automatics slipping out of park or something like that.
In my case, I have had to use the brake for parking most of the cars I've had, since they have all (but one) been manual transmission cars.
Never had any problem with the brake acting up.
They pushed parking brakes in driver's training as well, even going as far as telling us to first shift into Drive, and then take the brake off. |
Post# 962493 , Reply# 20   10/14/2017 at 14:28 (2,357 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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My car is automatic because I simply couldn't find any manual car here in the US. (Except super expensive sports models completely out of my budget)
I think manual transmissions are still technically available on something other than super expensive cars. Recently, a grocery store here had a Ford Fiesta on display as part of a promotion, and I noted that car had a manual shift. I've looked up info on other cars, and note that a manual transmission is available on them, too.
The problem may just be dealer willingness to carry cars with a manual transmission. My father bought a Honda Civic with a manual transmission 15 years ago or so. He said it was the only--only--manual transmission Civic on the dealer's lot. One assumes it would be like that at other dealers. If he'd been in the least bit particular, he might well have had a long, frustrating ordeal to get that Honda... This post was last edited 10/14/2017 at 14:44 |
Post# 962496 , Reply# 21   10/14/2017 at 14:37 (2,357 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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Do they still make Ford Festivas? WOW! |
Post# 962498 , Reply# 22   10/14/2017 at 14:45 (2,357 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 962499 , Reply# 23   10/14/2017 at 14:47 (2,357 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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hahahah Anyway, I like fords.... and the Fiesta is not bad... If they have manuals, great! Thank you for letting me know. |
Post# 962504 , Reply# 24   10/14/2017 at 14:55 (2,357 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I have to say I was impressed by the Fiesta I saw. It gave me the impression of being cheap in price...but not being like one of those cheap cars that's just plain cheap in every imaginable sense. I can't say I'd like the car--I only saw it--but that impression was a lot better than a new (complete with temporary paper license plate) econo box I saw yesterday. |
Post# 962568 , Reply# 26   10/14/2017 at 17:59 (2,356 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 962585 , Reply# 27   10/14/2017 at 19:19 (2,356 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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....has a 5 speed MANUAL transmission. It also has the "pull up the handle" parking brake.
I had to special order the VW as the dealer had 99% automatics in stock and the 2 manual transmission equipped Passats were not in colors that I cared for. I have driven manual transmission cars since my first car in 1974 (1974 Honda Civic 4 speed). That was followed by a 1980 Honda Accord LX hatchback 5 speed. I had a 1985 Lincoln Mark VII LSC that only came with a 4 speed automatic -but it was a FUN car to drive! Then, a 1992 Chevy S10 Tahoe pickup with a 5 speed manual and 2.8 V6. Then, the 2003 Passat also with a 5 speed manual and 2.8 V6. The Nissan Leaf (all electric) has no transmission so no shifting required. I'm a "control freak" so LOVE shifting the gears myself! It is true that those who know how to drive a "standard" (stick shift) transmission are a vanishing breed. |
Post# 962589 , Reply# 29   10/14/2017 at 19:52 (2,356 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Manual shift availability.....and many today are 6 speeds
Many Subaru's come with a stick..... Dodge-- Challenger Charger Caliber, and Turbocharged Ford-- Focus SST....I have my nephews right now, feels good to jump into a stick again....this one is FWD with a EcoBoost Turbo.....a very very powerful car... I know Mustang and Camaros are available with a stick.... I got plenty of Driver Training while dating a State Trooper....and your right, that emergency brake was a crucial part of defensive driving and control... |
Post# 962610 , Reply# 31   10/14/2017 at 21:56 (2,356 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 962679 , Reply# 38   10/15/2017 at 10:46 (2,356 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 962683 , Reply# 39   10/15/2017 at 10:59 (2,356 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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The twin stick was pretty cool. It was the same old Borg Warner 3-speed overdrive unit, but set up in a sporty way giving you 5 forward speeds. I never had one, but I've seen quite a few at Rambler meets over the years.
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Post# 962700 , Reply# 41   10/15/2017 at 13:05 (2,356 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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was built in Korea by Kia. |
Post# 962732 , Reply# 43   10/15/2017 at 17:02 (2,355 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Another opportunity to feel old came to me in this article about a 16 year old who didn't know how to start a car with a key.
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It's commonly discussed that the manual-rolling window is an automotive feature that has more or less died, but have you considered the key? The key is rapidly going the way of the dodo, as it's being replaced by fobs and push-button starts. Many future kids may not have any clue how to start a car with one -- and, in fact, this is already happening.
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Post# 962733 , Reply# 44   10/15/2017 at 17:08 (2,355 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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This throws us back to another thread, but with the same issue... Millennials! |
Post# 962741 , Reply# 45   10/15/2017 at 19:10 (2,355 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Millennials?....puh-leeze.....with everything available to them for knowledge at a fingertips grasp on the internet, will ask some of the most bizarre, no check that, stupidest questions ever.....
I didn't have this stuff growing up, the internet wasn't around....and I had more intelligence...better yet, common sense..... our twins are 17, just got their permits..... everything is why?, why?, why?.... Day one..... gear shift positions...P..R..N..D......and forget if it has a 2..1...or worst an L why P for Park if I am standing still, shouldn't that be H for Hold, or S for SetStill or Stay.... if R is for Reverse....should the D actually be an F for Forward.... trust me, they don't understand the 10 and 2 hand position, because the clock is digital..... it was time to re-take Drivers Ed 101.......because they didn't learn a thing..... when I learned how to drive...way before my permit.....and it was with a stick shift to boot....you didn't question things, you familiarized yourself with the vehicle.....then proceeded, push in clutch, shift to first, release the brake, apply a little gas, and slowly ease up on the clutch, as you 'felt' the grip, both feet moved in sequence, and you were off.....next was clutch, shift, gas!....easy as pie.... oh, and to be truthful, I bunny hopped and stalled the first time.....I didn't ask why.....started it again, moved both feet back and forth a few times, got used to the vibrations...OK, OK, I got this....here we go.... whats more funny.....drive a stick shift for 15+ years, then get into an automatic.....force of habit at 50mph, to jam down the brake and pull the shifter down to low....as everyone is kissing the dashboard.... |
Post# 962746 , Reply# 46   10/15/2017 at 19:55 (2,355 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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My uncle got flustered with us kids in the back seat, drove up the street and instinctively slammed the power brake with his left foot and shifted the automatic into park. I do miss the simplicity of older vehicles, like the newer reliability but hate having to go boing, boing to turn up or down the heat or a/c, etc.etc. I want to just drive, not frig with a touch screen and watch the road. I have had my licence 48 years and only one chargeable accident way back in 1969.
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Post# 962807 , Reply# 47   10/16/2017 at 00:38 (2,355 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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"whats more funny.....drive a stick shift for 15+ years, then get into an automatic.....force of habit at 50mph, to jam down the brake and pull the shifter down to low....as everyone is kissing the dashboard.... " LOL Until today i do that sometimes... almost 2 years driving only the automatic crap and until today I couldn't get used to it. |
Post# 962814 , Reply# 48   10/16/2017 at 04:06 (2,355 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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