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Post# 964507   10/27/2017 at 09:28 by duttyb11 (Mountain City)        

I have seen the new designs and they are going to deff. have a different transmission but still be metal parts. The backspashes for the machines will be a black/stainless steel color which i do not like. I messaged speed queen and they told me only the normal eco cycle was going to change and we would still have access to water levels as normal but i assume it will still be less water allowed than on the 17 model. I don't know anything about the agitator, and i feel like they are going to ruin it, but they don't do anything half way at speed queen because laundry is all they do so we will see. Deff. do not like the new design colors i prefer white it reminds me of clean. I wonder if the water levels in the front loaders will be significant i want more water. 2 inches doesn't seem like a lot to me. the knob front loaders are going to electro nothing manuel timers anymore. lid lock confirmed, hate that they are taking away spin brake. can someone post pics of new deisngs if they can get their hands on them? i'm a huge speed queen fan but i'm concerened, will the new transmission be silent like the front loader? does this mean there will be those damn weird pauses between agitator movements i want instant back and forth action like the 17's or the 18's will be shit. i'm very concerened. if only we could have front loaders that use enough water in this counrty, they clean the best, but no the dept. of energy screws us.




Post# 964570 , Reply# 1   10/27/2017 at 17:39 by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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Post# 964594 , Reply# 2   10/27/2017 at 22:49 by agiflow2 (iselin, nj)        

So. When are we due to see the release of these new machines ? Beginning of the new year ?

Post# 964636 , Reply# 3   10/28/2017 at 07:20 by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
If only

The mid 60s Westinghouses were still available!THEY used enough water!Only thing I would change would be to make them spin between rinses and be all porcelain, even the cabinet.

Post# 964637 , Reply# 4   10/28/2017 at 07:22 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I was just at an appliance store looking at machines and the salesman said there is one more production period of the 2017's coming, then they will switch to the new 2018 models. He didn't have a lot of info on the new ones, aside from they will only offer electronic controls. Almost made me want to buy a set of the mechanical dial machines! haha. They are indeed nice, well built machines.

Post# 964658 , Reply# 5   10/28/2017 at 09:54 by johnrk (Houston)        
2018

I was just at my local appliance store Thursday, purchasing a new dishwasher. I bought my 432 pair from him last month. He can't keep them in stock right now and he said he's worried that they're going to monkey with not only the electronics but also the reliable mechanical parts. Though he sells the Whirlpool family and the Electrolux family, his best sellers are the Fisher and Paykel washers. He tried to sell me one of those F&P drawer-set dishwashers but I've read too many negative things about them.

Post# 964663 , Reply# 6   10/28/2017 at 10:36 by agiflow2 (iselin, nj)        

Good to know joeypete. I was also in an appliance store last Thursday, the same place I purchased the 432 over 4 yrs. ago. I saw one model of Speed Queen and it was the currently produced 432 . I didn't stick around to ask questions though. The sales guy was on the phone so I left.

Post# 964672 , Reply# 7   10/28/2017 at 11:52 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I love my Maytag set but I've found it to be a bit too large for my needs and I'd like to control the water level a little more. It cleans fantastically, but also takes longer. So my weekends are spent mostly doing laundry. Doesn't help I'm completely OCD about having everything clean! LOL. So I've been contemplating the idea of getting the SQ mechanical set to replace both. The dryer would be really hard to give up, so I was also thinking about just replacing the washer with the F&P agitator model. It at least still has manual controls for water level. Not sure how fast it washes though. Nice bonus with them is they are offering a 5 year parts/labor warranty on their machines until the end of the year. That's very enticing....


Post# 964700 , Reply# 8   10/28/2017 at 14:44 by johnrk (Houston)        
SQ Dryer

Don't get the mechanical SQ dryer! I just bought it last month without doing enough research, only to learn that it has no moisture sensor. All the electronic panel ones have one. I'm still trying to figure out where on the knob works best to dry everything without frying it. I keep telling myself that I owned these dryers for over 20 years before I got a moisture sensor. If you get the SQ dryer you'll love the lint filter, permanently attached to the bottom of the opening and very easy to clean.

Post# 964704 , Reply# 9   10/28/2017 at 14:55 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I wouldn't bother upgrading to an SQ dryer with an electronic sensor. Mine doesn't dry any more accurately than the thermostatically controlled dryers I've had. Items are actually dry anywhere from 10 to 25 minutes before the sensor finally shuts off the machine. The Maytag 8100 dryer I had before this one was super-accurate.

While I've grown fond of the old-school, low-tech, top-loading washer, I'm not at all impressed with the dryer. The best thing I can say about it is that the drum rotates and it produces fan-driven heat. Hopefully it also has a better build quality than some other brands.


Post# 964722 , Reply# 10   10/28/2017 at 17:18 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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That's why I REALLY would rather keep my Maytag dryer. It's freaking awesome. Has steam and everything. Lots of temps and cycles. It works very very well. The F&P washer would match it pretty well too, so have to think about that.

If anything I'd probably pick the mechanical dial SQ washer and the 9 series dryer. I like the extra features it has.


Post# 964956 , Reply# 11   10/30/2017 at 08:56 by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Space Grey

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If this is the new color scheme, I like it!

Malcolm


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Post# 965025 , Reply# 12   10/30/2017 at 16:15 by stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        

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The dryer is disappointing for thereasons mentioned.
Crude design with nearly useless control all for a premium price.
On the plus side the warranty is good, and the likely longevity unsurpassed.


Post# 965064 , Reply# 13   10/30/2017 at 22:17 by johnrk (Houston)        
Crude Design?

Please educate me--what's "crude" about the design of my new dryer?

Post# 965072 , Reply# 14   10/31/2017 at 00:13 by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

I think the main issue with SQ dryers is how hot they run and the lack of temperature options. That's my concern anyway.

Post# 965084 , Reply# 15   10/31/2017 at 06:02 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I wonder if their front-loaders are getting a color-scheme makeover, as well? Had given some thought to eventually replacing my top-loader with a rear console front-loader, but I like a matched set. I'm going to assume they'll still make white a color option and that they'll match the 2017 models. That's probably assuming quite a lot, isn't it, LOL?

Post# 965104 , Reply# 16   10/31/2017 at 07:22 by imperial70 (******)        

Malcom,
Where did you find that picture? Is there a press release?


Post# 965111 , Reply# 17   10/31/2017 at 08:45 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I believe that's another brand...one that SQ makes for them? I've seen it on here before.

I decided on the F & P WashSmart agitator machine over the SQ. After looking at them in person, the SQ was just too dang small. The FP comes with a 5 year parts/labor warranty and was $200 cheaper on top of that. Also I liked the tub size better and considering FP has not changed the overall design of their machines in 20 years, I don't have an doubts I'll get many years out of this machine. It has few parts and is easy to fix.

Their current machine also meets 2018 standards and they didn't have to do a thing with it. Tells you how much more advanced some foreign machines are. Plus it allows for full manual water levels.

I was a bit nostalgic in my wanting the SQ, but overall I'm happy with my decision to buy the FP instead.


Post# 965129 , Reply# 18   10/31/2017 at 10:55 by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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About the dryers, I can corroberate how hot they run.
They're the hottest dryers I've ever used.
And of course all in dorm/apartment settings.

Regular heat was always way too hot except for towels.
Though it would dry everything within 40 minutes.
But those items that dried before that, were borderline scorched all the time.
And if the SQ dryers had any kind of cool down period, it was useless.

I often times tried Delicate heat, but that never dried all the way through, and just ended up costing me an extra .50 - 1$.

SQ dryers are crap IMO.


Post# 965132 , Reply# 19   10/31/2017 at 11:17 by duttyb11 (Mountain City)        
F&P Washer

Can you do a video of your new F&P top load washer joey? I have wanted to see some new youtube content on this model for quite some time. I am also considering buying this one as well. But I still love SQ...I wish someone could get pics of the new models, i have seen them but on a phone, and i didn't like how they looked.

Post# 965133 , Reply# 20   10/31/2017 at 11:26 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Sure you bet! They seriously haven't changed much in 20 years aside from the control panel. There's a video that Leon did and his is the same as mine will be...just not the US version...but they are almost identical.

I'm excited to get it.

The SQ's have incredible build quality. But since I'm keeping my Bravos XL dryer, I wanted something that would at least look similar. In the appliance store they had a 8 series SQ next to my exact MT machine and it was like night an day. LOL. I wasn't sure I'd like that look.

This is Leon's video:






Post# 965138 , Reply# 21   10/31/2017 at 11:51 by johnrk (Houston)        
My SQ Dryer

I'm finally learning the best way to use this new SQ dryer, the model with the knobs.

Of course it's not crap--though there's a learning curve. After talking with the excellent customer service in Ripon I've gotten a routine that works.

That ultra-hot 'regular' setting is perfect for towels, bed linens, and if I want my jeans shrunk. I've had dryers over the decades that I had to dry the hell out of towels just to get them dry, through-and-through. Not on this dryer. I run those on the 'regular/permanent press' part of the dial. There is a cool-down, of course, but not a long one.

For my clothing I run it on the 'delicate' setting. I don't know the exact temp, but it's certainly higher than that setting was on my last, Frigidaire dryer of a couple of decades. For them, I use the 'delicate' part of the dial, which has a long cool-down, more than my last dryer. I'm finding that this works beautifully for me no matter what the type of clothing.

I really like the way that there's a plastic shield on the door of this 'crap' dryer over the lint filter. With my Frigidaire there could be some articles, particularly socks, that would end up in the lint filter recess, covered with lint. Not so with this one.


Post# 965139 , Reply# 22   10/31/2017 at 12:12 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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SQ dryers appear to be very well built. I was impressed when I looked at them last week. But for the price I think going with a cheaper dryer, especially WP or GE, will be just as good of a choice. My Maytag dryer is awesome. It dries perfectly.

Post# 965162 , Reply# 23   10/31/2017 at 13:56 by johnrk (Houston)        
joeypete

I agree completely--I don't see anything amazing about this new SQ dryer. Again, when I purchased this pair last month, it was really my 17-year-old Kenmore that quit heating and I decided to replace (never a service call BTW); my Frigidaire Affinity FL was working basically fine.

We know that, as always, the w/d makers hope that people will do like me and just buy both. I have no doubt that I could've been happy buying another brand of dryer. My hope is that, with the few loads that I do weekly, this will be the last dryer I need to buy. Before purchasing that Kenmore 17 years ago, I'd always replaced my GE Filter-Flo pairs when I moved into new homes.

As for dryer steam? I use the same trick that people have for decades: dampen a washcloth or other appropriate piece of cloth and toss it in with the load to dry. Works like a charm when necessary.


Post# 965164 , Reply# 24   10/31/2017 at 14:00 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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But I guess dryer technology hasn't changed much over the years, probably why they tend to be more reliable than washers lol. My MT Bravos XL by looking at it, you would think it's a brand new design with it's slick brush aluminum panel and white LED lights. But it's core is the old tried and true top lint filter WP design from like 50 years ago haha. Mine does have steam and I can tell you that's one feature I really really like. Keeps me from having to wash items sometimes, like blankets and throw pillows from my couch. I just toss them in and in 15 minutes they come out fresh like they were just washed. Course you could probably get a spray bottle with some water and spray the stuff first then run the fluff cycle and get the same effect. LOL

Post# 965169 , Reply# 25   10/31/2017 at 14:30 by johnrk (Houston)        
joeypete

You know what I love? Dryel. Countless times I've traveled on business with just one suit, maybe wear it 2-4 days on the road. Before Dryel I'd automatically take it for dry cleaning even though it wasn't dirty. Now, one Dryel sheet in the bag, 30 minutes in the dryer, and it's perfect. I'll use those Dryel sheets and the bag also for 'freshening'. You reminded me of that 'cause I've got some smaller throw pillows that fit perfectly.

Post# 965218 , Reply# 26   10/31/2017 at 21:26 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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joeypete-- I used the Steam Refresh cycle all the time on both my Frigidaire and Maytag dryers. While I change dress shirts daily--sometimes twice--pants can easily be worn twice or even three times by employing a steam refresh between wearings. With the SQ, I do exactly what you wrote in the post above: Spray bottle + Water + Pants + Fluff Up cycle. Works like a charm. Of course, I reduce the heat from 'Heart Of The Sun' to 'Mercury' LOL.

johnb300m-- Thanks for confirming my suspicion that the SQ runs crazy-hot. I thought it was simply because it has to be interrupted mid-cycle to extract the already-dry load. Although I'm not impressed with the dryer, it has one redeeming quality: It's very, very quiet. The top-loading washer, on the other hand, has really grown on me. I'm thoroughly enjoying the trip down Vintage Washer Lane.





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