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Post# 143872   7/20/2006 at 16:05 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

picture A




Post# 143873 , Reply# 1   7/20/2006 at 16:05 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Picture B

And no, it's not the laundry detergent LOL

Post# 143874 , Reply# 2   7/20/2006 at 16:13 (6,482 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

The box of Persil is gone?

(ducks and runs)


Post# 143875 , Reply# 3   7/20/2006 at 16:15 (6,482 days old) by westytoploader ()        

WOW! Did you put the Miele in the laundry and move the Zanussi up to your room?

Post# 143876 , Reply# 4   7/20/2006 at 16:16 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Jason... let me whisper you something...

*SLAP* :-)

Post# 143878 , Reply# 5   7/20/2006 at 16:24 (6,482 days old) by agiflow ()        

So what happened to the Zanussi?

Post# 143884 , Reply# 6   7/20/2006 at 17:05 (6,482 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hhhmmm

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The new Zanussi is caput after 3 service calls, the Miele has been called in to rescue the situation....

and you`re so peeded off you`ve gone and bought the new Servis for the upstairs laundry bedroom...Lol



Post# 143888 , Reply# 7   7/20/2006 at 17:40 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Indeed, the Zanussi went out with a bang so to say within 29 days of the 28 day return policy! Probably a dodgy motor, but for the last week we had it, it was making a progressively worse sparking noise as it spun and then on it's last spin cycle, it was sparking so bad, was struggling to get up to 1400rpm at the end and then the circuit breaker flicked - so I presume the motor had overloaded or something. Mother dearest marched along to Currys, got the machine returned and then asked me "Which is the best model Miele to get?". Of course, I pointed her towards one of the high end models, and so it was delivered yesterday and it's been working very hard :-). Is very very quiet - I'm certain the freezer is louder than the washer during the spin cycle! Because of the brushless induction motor, it sounds like a commercial washer during the spin, i.e. no motor noise at all, just the sound of the drum moving. Even quieter than my own Miele upstairs!

Moral of the story - Never recommend a Zanussi to your parents when they initially offer to buy a Miele; as it always comes back to bite your ass! (Although, the consequences did bring a new Miele washer to play with so not all that bad). But I'm never going to hear the end of recommending a washer to mum that broke within a month!

It's a shame about the Zanussi really, a nice machine for a nice price. I personally would have replaced it with another, but hey who's complaining!

Pics to follow,

Jon


Post# 143889 , Reply# 8   7/20/2006 at 17:41 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Control Panel all lit up

Post# 143890 , Reply# 9   7/20/2006 at 17:41 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Detergent dispenser (and yukky bit of spilt yellow Lenor residue on top of the softener cover!)

Post# 143891 , Reply# 10   7/20/2006 at 17:42 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Blinded by the light...

Blackpool Illuminations

Post# 143892 , Reply# 11   7/20/2006 at 17:44 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
And finally...

6 kilograms of Ariel Sensitive and Comfort Lily & Riceflower Honeycomb Drum 60*C Cottons Wash fresh towels!

Post# 143893 , Reply# 12   7/20/2006 at 17:51 (6,482 days old) by washboy2005 (UK)        
Looks Great...

I Cant wait to come use it :-D or at least see it in action :-D

I wanna persuade mum into one now :-P LOL

Take Care
Dan


Post# 143894 , Reply# 13   7/20/2006 at 17:53 (6,482 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Oh, and it is a new Miele mum has by the way. Mine still happily whirrs away up here 5 or 6 times a week, strictly out of bounds from the rest of the family and has to be activated via a pin code so as to operate it :-D.

Jon


Post# 143896 , Reply# 14   7/20/2006 at 18:14 (6,482 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        
Congratulations Jon!!!!

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Hiya!, I must addmit your new Miele looks absoutley stunning!!::D, what an upgrade from the Zanussi IMO lol!! The controls and interior/drum light look amazing all lit up:)It looks like such a quality machine, the design looks like its been very carefully thought out and the outcome is great!. It makes me want one even more! Hope you have many years of fun with this machine (sure you will)

Richard


Post# 143935 , Reply# 15   7/20/2006 at 21:47 (6,482 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jon congratulations!!

Post# 143946 , Reply# 16   7/20/2006 at 22:11 (6,482 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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O...M...G!!!!!!!! Jon, forget what I said about not liking the knobs,this machine is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE that the drum is lit up!!!!! That should make it a lot easier to videotape... ;) I'm surprised that you haven't tried to get mom to trade machines so you can have that one in your room!!!! NICE!!!

Post# 143984 , Reply# 17   7/21/2006 at 00:23 (6,482 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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It's a beautiful machine! And they must be very quiet; Consumer Reports gives only the Miele they tested an Excellent rating for quietness. Every other brand of FL'er gets a Very Good or Good rating.

Two things keep me from considering a Miele---capacity and the need for a 220-volt outlet. Three things, actually. The nearest dealer is over 100 miles from me. They are beautiful, well-made machines--- truly works of fine craftsmanship.

Congratulations!

Say....where the heck is Launderess? She's made herself conspicuous by her absence, lately. If a new Miele washer in a British-based thread doesn't draw her out I'm sending the FBI to look for her, LOL!
















Post# 144087 , Reply# 18   7/21/2006 at 14:24 (6,481 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        
Good stuff Jon

That machine looks the business. How does it compare to your Miele in terms of cycles / noise / performance etc etc. What made you buy that one and not one of the new design Mieles?

Regards

Nick


Post# 144088 , Reply# 19   7/21/2006 at 14:35 (6,481 days old) by bearpeter ()        

.... and here was me thinking you had changed the tone of the internal walls!!

How silly of me!

Peter


Post# 144092 , Reply# 20   7/21/2006 at 14:45 (6,481 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Beautiful new Miele Jon, congrats!!! Will definitely last another 30 years! :)

Post# 144103 , Reply# 21   7/21/2006 at 15:27 (6,481 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hey all,

Yes it is a beautiful machine indeed; mum loves it and I think she's finally admitted that she's found a washer that was just as good as her first Hoover! Have been using it a lot yesterday and today (been catching up with the laundry that has built up over the past few weeks we've had no washer downstairs, and of course my washer has been off limits to all family laundry but towels and bedding), and it's a very good machine, of course I didn't expect anything but the best. To my surprise my mum has actually been able to use it too - anything with an electronic display often just confuses her!

Dan - as I said on the phone lastnight I'm sure you can't wait either to come see this Miele. Only just over a week now until you're here again!

Richard - it definitely was an upgrade from the Zanussi. The Mieles a brilliantly well made machine, although to be fair for the price I expect it, and to be honest the Zanussi wasn't that badly built either considering it was only £300. Hopefully this washer should last my mum at least as long as her Hoover did!

Jamie - can I say I told you so? :-P I told you the dial machines were just as beautiful - can't beat the backlit dial, it's nice to see such a vintage feature still available on a machine today.

Eugene - I have to say as with any other European washer capacity isn't really an issue - again one load in this Miele (which is 6 kilos, versus my own which is 5 kilos) filled up one of the washing lines (about 12 metres long), and at that I had trouble to squeeze it all onto one line. Shame I didn't take a picture really - will do of the next load. But then I suppose it's all what you are used to :-).

Nick - we decided on the classic model because all the new design models with a free 10 year warranty had the control panels on the front of the top of the machine, and so it would have to stick out if we had one otherwise the worktop would obstruct the controls, however the utility room is too narrow to do that so we went with a traditional flat controlled model. Was going to opt for the cheapest one with variable temperature - but the model we got was only £40 more than that which was worth it for all the extra features you get. Performance is equal - both are good performers, however the cycles & tumbling rhythms do vary between the two. Whilst my own Miele tumbles at 55rpm for 5 seconds before slowing down to 40rpm for 5 seconds and then isntantly reversing, tumbling the same way and so on, the new Miele does quite long tumbles - about 30 seconds long and again instant reversing. However, on the new Miele the tumbles start off slow, and gradually get faster and then in the middle of each tumble it distributes for a few seconds before gradually slowing down again and then reversing. Reminds me a bit of Powerstream Hotpoints, and it really does seem to drive the detergent into the load - and creates a lot of suds in the meantime! Quietness mum's is even quieter than mine as hers has the brushless motor - spinning is nothing but a mere hum of the drum moving, like a commercial washer, whereas on mine you can hear the motor noise - it isn't loud on my Miele but it is audible. This new Miele is quieter than the freezer I'm sure during the final spin! If anything, the dryer is louder than the washer at any point of the cycle - bearing in mind our dryer is a Bosch so fairly quiet, yet the old Bosch and Zanussi would drown out the dryer noise on the fast spin.

Peter - be careful otherwise you'll be joining Jason for a slap! :-)

Austin - thanks for the congratulations. Hope to chat online again soon!

All the best guys, thanks for the congratulations - it definitely is appreciated, although I feel a bit of a snob now with 2 Miele's. I'm sure not even Hyacinth Bouquet has 2 Miele's!

Videos to come hopefully this weekend; if not it'll be next weekend as I am away next week. (Staying with my Auntie with the Miele's actually, as I used to call her when I was young)

Jon


Post# 144210 , Reply# 22   7/22/2006 at 00:41 (6,481 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Great Machines:

Hey! Jon, sorry to hear about the Zanussi going out so soon. I think that it has a smart looking Control Panel. The new Miele that your Mum got is smart looking as well. I do however tend to like the older style Control Panels, similar to the one you have up in your Bed Room. I see that next to your Miele is your AEG, which Brand of Dryer do you have on top of the AEG, is it a Condenser or Vented Model?

Have fun trying to trading Miele Washers with your Mum, if you even thought about trying at all. She would no doubt want to keep her new one, even if yours might not be very old yet anyway.

Peace and Fun Laundry Times, with your Miele and AEG, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 144212 , Reply# 23   7/22/2006 at 00:48 (6,481 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Hey! Jon, do you possibly:

Have any Control Panel Pix's of the Zanussi Washer, that just went out on you Guys? I would appreciate it if you do have any?

What Capacity did it have, compared to the Miele's are they similar of quite different Capacities?

Wouldn't you have missed the Honeycomb Tub on the Miele, if your Mum had gotten another Zanussi Washer Jon?

Peace and Fun Miele Laundry Times, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 144230 , Reply# 24   7/22/2006 at 04:26 (6,481 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi Steve!

Have got a control panel of the Zanussi at the end of this post. It was a very ingenious design - very simple to use, and has been used by Zanussi for the past 6 years or so and I imagine it would continue to do so for a few years - those Zanussi's are so simple to use even though they are electronic & very flexible in programme selection. The control panels between mine and my mum's are more or less identical - only difference being mum's has a dial to select programmes rather than the touchbuttons on mine. The dryer on top of the AEG is it's matching condenser dryer that I bought along with the AEG washer in 2004. Wish I could say positive things about it, and even though it's good and even at drying, it's noisy, takes 2 hours to dry towels after 1600rpm!!!!, requires lots of maintenance and makes the room really hot when operating. Lookign forward to the day I'll be able to afford a Miele vented dryer!

The Zanussi has a 7 kilo capacity. Mum's Miele has a 6 kilo capacity and IMO there isn't much of a difference in any between the Zanussi and the new Miele drums; however both are larger than my Miele upstairs which has the more traditional 5kg drum. I have to say that while the Honeycomb drum is nice, I wouldn't buy a Miele solely for that feature as we have washed delicates and woollens for years in standard drum washers without any trouble.

Anyway here's a pic of the Zanussi washer for you, enjoy!

Take care,

Jon


Post# 144232 , Reply# 25   7/22/2006 at 04:44 (6,481 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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ooo nice miele, i love things that light up when you twist its knob lol.
have fun with it
matt
xx


Post# 144239 , Reply# 26   7/22/2006 at 07:27 (6,481 days old) by sparkcymru ()        
twisting knobs

Nice Miele Jon look forward to seeing it when i visit u, it looks lovely in the dark.

Mattywashboy, i'm not sure your talking about the Miele there but i'd have to agree with you. lol

Steve


Post# 144256 , Reply# 27   7/22/2006 at 08:14 (6,481 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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i'm as innocent as the fallen snow steve, don't know what you talking about :P

Post# 144263 , Reply# 28   7/22/2006 at 08:48 (6,481 days old) by cybrvanr ()        

COOL MACHINE! I love the look of that control panel glowing, and that light inside the washdrum. It looks pretty simple and intuitive to use. I always like washers you can directly adjust the wash temperature. My Danby's like that. Does that one have an internal heater? I guess it does if it runs on 220V. They were selling Miele's here on this side of the pond at Lowe's for a while, but I haven't seen them lately. I think recently they replaced them with Bosch's

BTW, what kind of fridge is that? It must have a huge freezer, top or bottom?


Post# 144360 , Reply# 29   7/22/2006 at 16:17 (6,480 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Jon,

Great pictures! I love this control panel even better than the ones from previous series. It's amazing to see that they are still able to make improvements. Ofcourse you will have to keep posting reports about this machine.

Louis


Post# 144369 , Reply# 30   7/22/2006 at 18:43 (6,480 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Jon, Congratulations on the new Miele. I am jealous that you can still select higher water level rinses. If I could change two things about mine, I would liike to have high speed spins between the wash and rinses in the W1918 and the ability to get high water level rinses in the W1986.

So, does the tub light stay on through the whole cycle? What does "Further Extras" mean? Does the selection "Further Programmes" bring up different cycles or is it a provision for some yet to be invented cycle? I read that the UK is going to crack down on household energy & water use so you might have one of the last series of Mieles that allow the higher rinses. If it's good to have a Miele, it's even better to have two. Hope you enjoy yours in health, wealth and happiness for all time.

Is there anything besides the Mieles at your Aunties for fun and excitement?
Best wishes, Tom


Post# 144446 , Reply# 31   7/23/2006 at 04:03 (6,480 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi all,

Steven, yep this Miele has an internal heater - in fact most if not all frontloaders ever produced for sale in the UK have had inbuilt heaters for the past 20 or 30 years (correct me if I'm wrong, Mike et al). The fridge freezer next to the washer is the "spare" fridge freezer which acts as an overflow from the tiny one in the kitchen. It's a bottom freezer, not sure of the cu.ft but the freezer has 4 drawers and the fridge is the same size, except with shelves instead of drawers obviously.

Tom, the tub light only remains switched on if the machine is turned on but a programme isn't running - and also when you open the door at the end of the cycle. It turns off once you press the start button, unfortunately really as it would be pretty cool for watching :-). Further Extra brings up an additional set of options via the menu - Extra Rinse, Soak, and Rinse Hold. Further Programmes brings up more programmes via the LCD menu - Dark Garments, Curtains, Pillows, Sportswear, Outerwear, Proofing, and Separate Rinse - same as the Specal Programmes button on my Miele however my Miele only has 4 programmes (Outerwear, Denim, Shirts & Starch) available on the separate programmes menu. Never knew about the crackdown on water use in the UK! Although if a lot of brands of washer here cracked down on water use even more, a lot of washers won't be using water! Does your 1918 not spin fast between rinses? Both of my Miele's spin at 1000rpm between rinses, and the length of the interim spins depends on the weight of the load and how much water the load absorbs & extracts (during the spin).

My aunt lives only a 30 minute train journey away from London, so hopefully there will be a day or two spent there, probably with a negative effect on the bank account with shops and all that.

Thanks everybody else for their responses,

Jon


Post# 144655 , Reply# 32   7/23/2006 at 22:04 (6,479 days old) by compwhiz128 ()        

Wow, cool new machine. I'd never knew that people would light the interior of the washer.

Has any mildew built up in the soap dispenser yet?


Post# 150076 , Reply# 33   8/23/2006 at 10:39 (6,448 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Jon

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Nice one - Maybe I might win on a scratchcard then I could replace my Zansssi with one as well lol!!. What im really liking the look of now tho are the new Stainless models ;).
Think they might be A BIT out of my price range tho lol!!!

Seamus



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