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Post# 964628   10/28/2017 at 06:48 by brucelucenta (Italy)        

The time must have been the mid 60's and after Westinghouse introduced their newly designed top loader. These sets were right about the same time and were actually smaller in size and capacity then the old style slant front machines that Westinghouse had made since the 40's. The stacked units were space savers and the other machines were made to look like a regular washer and dryer. The top load washer would match this same dryer as the front load one. They washed and rinsed adequately enough, but were only fair at spinning out the water. They did however excel in lint and sediment removal, as all front load machines do. They did tend to ball up larger items, like blankets or sheets. They did serve their purpose, but I would not want one as my only means to launder everything since there were better choices at the time.




Post# 964635 , Reply# 1   10/28/2017 at 07:14 by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
If I EVER

Find a set like these, you can BET I will use them, worlds ahead of todays front loaders!

Post# 964639 , Reply# 2   10/28/2017 at 07:49 by brucelucenta (Italy)        
today's front loaders

You can adjust the level control for the water on today's front loaders, if that is what concerns you about them. Today's front loaders do an incredibly good job of cleaning, rinsing and spinning out anything put into one and most of them hold easily twice what one of these machines will hold and do not tangle up anything since they reverse rotation constantly. The lower water level does save water and it really is not necessary to have a high water level, since a low one works just fine in a front loading machine. You can also have multiple rinses too.

Post# 964641 , Reply# 3   10/28/2017 at 07:57 by westingguelph (Guelph. Ontario Canada)        

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I must say I totally agree with norgeway I'd love that set. I think Westinghouse had the most beautiful consoles and controls. What's with the lady ironing in high heels and the purse....you gotta love early 60's advertising!

Post# 964643 , Reply# 4   10/28/2017 at 08:02 by Revvinkevin (Between Mickey Mouse & the Queen Mary (So. Cal.)        
Smaller size/capacity than the old slant front washers???

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I'm sorry, but I disagree!

Have you seen the size of the old slant front washers?? They were tiny! This design while appearing small, did actually hold quite a bit. Once they went to this design, I don't think the capacity changed all the way up until when the model was discontinued in 1990 or so. I have models of that design including a 1990 model and they do hold quite a lot, equal to any standard capacity top load washer. The old slant front did NOT hold that much.


Post# 964649 , Reply# 5   10/28/2017 at 08:50 by brucelucenta (Italy)        

Well......I have used several of these machines over the years in a commercial type laundry to wash and starch jeans, pants and dark color shirts mostly. They worked quite well for that too I might add, but held significantly less than a larger capacity top loader, such as a Frigidaire 1-18 or Whirlpool super capacity. It also held less than a standard capacity Maytag, Kenmore/Whirlpool or GE. The more you loaded it, the more it would tangle too. The front load design was perfect for starching in the final rinse, since the sediment from the starch would drop to the bottom and not get on the clothing. I would have to tumble them for a short while to dry them out more and could then press them wet so they would be stiff. As far as the slant front machines, I have used those in a laundromat back in the 70's that still had them and they were a little bigger in capacity. I think Westinghouse rated them at 9 pounds at one point in time and the ones like today's POD at 8 pounds. The slant front machines didn't hold much more than these, but slightly more. The poundage claim changed as the years went by and increased like all other brands.

Post# 964650 , Reply# 6   10/28/2017 at 08:51 by syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)        

There's only one or two makes of a front loader I'd consider, and that said, you couldn't give me any other for free...they r junk...

Post# 964655 , Reply# 7   10/28/2017 at 09:38 by johnrk (Houston)        
70's front loaders

In college, two of the radiologists with whom I worked had these, built into cabinetry in townhouses in Houston. They were beautiful--and way out of my reach financially. It's why I bought a lower level GE Filter-Flo pair that satisfied me for several years.

I guess the mania for bigger and bigger washers just never infected me. Even when I was washing for more than one I don't recall feeling I was short of capacity. Having looked at these machines when they were in stores, I certainly could've been happy with them if I could've afforded them at the time. The one thing that I remember is that every one I looked at in a store, that little scale thing was broken.

It's funny, and I've wondered whether it's coincidental, that as our society has grown more and more obese, so has our laundry equipment...




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Post# 964661 , Reply# 8   10/28/2017 at 10:07 by ea56 (Sonoma Co.,CA)        

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For 7 years I owned and used a 1987 Westinghouse FL that would have been the next generation after the POD model. I never once recall loads of clothes being anymore tangled than they were in any TL that Iíve used. There was a water level control right on the control panel, todays FLís donít offer this option. And with the weigh to save door there was never any question what the correct water level should be set at. And as far as capacity, when we looked at this machine in the store, the salesman told us that the fuller the tub was the better it would wash, I routinely washed all of our king size bedding in this Westinghouse, including the down comforter and the quilted bedspread. They always came out perfectly clean and undamaged. In fact we still have this same comforter and its now 33 years old and no worse for the wear.

Iím with Hans, if they still sold an FL like these Westinghouseís Iíd have one right now in our home. Having owned one of the newer model LG FLís, it is my opinion that the extra water does make a great deal of difference in the cleaning performance. And I donít think that any owner should have to tear off the top of their new FL to make complicated adjustments to the electronic water level controls to get an acceptable level of water, and in doing so probably void their warranty.

Iím all for conservation, but theer has to be a happy medium somewhere so a consumer can use an adequate amount of water, without being wasteful, and Westinghouse used to meet this requirement.


And furthermore, these machines were quick, and not temperamental about going into a spin. When that solenoid clicked that SOB went into a spin, come hell or high water. And if it was slighly out of balance at the beginning of the spin it seemed to get under control on its own. Maybe twice in 7 years I needed to stop an unbalance load and redistribute it myself.

And thats my two cents worth.
Eddie




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Post# 964662 , Reply# 9   10/28/2017 at 10:10 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

When these came out in 1964, there were no Frigidaire 1-18s, only the solid tub machines. GE, leading the capacity wars, was offering a 14 lb capacity. Norge was probably the largest capacity top loader, but Maytag had not even introduced the tall tub washer so this machine was not behind the pack in capacity. The non-slant tub Westinghouse design was introduced in the early 60s in the 30" wide slant front cabinets. Our neighbor had a set which replaced her 25" wide space mates. We have had the tubs out of these Westinghouse machines for bearing replacement and the tub is just about the same size as the GE 12 lb. tub and it does not need to have space taken up by the agitator. The GE tub does fill to the top nor can it be loaded to the top so it cannot use its entire capacity. The Westinghouse tub is all usable capacity except for the two vanes. Whatever it holds, it washes and rinses with far more water efficiency than the GE top loader. Front loaders of today using such low water levels have been reported to cause more wear to fabrics than these earlier front loaders which used higher water levels.

I never saw this style Westinghouse tumbler washer in a coin-op laundromat, only the slant tub bolt down and the bolt down double load washer which makes an appearance in the POD from time to time.


Post# 964679 , Reply# 10   10/28/2017 at 12:31 by syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)        



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Post# 964683 , Reply# 11   10/28/2017 at 12:51 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
(See Also, Topic: "Decline of Front-Loaders")

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"Westinghouse makes a couple tumble-action washers", a quote from my HOW TO BUY MAJOR HOME APPLIANCES "novel"...

I think this is a "love-triangle"--THREE! I would guess a standard-sized model w/ the controls mounted above the door, a large capacity which would include more temperatures, continuous water level, and the weigh-to-save, not to mention the tub lamp, and of course, the TOL w/ the panel designed as a top-loader, though on the back-guard, as you see in the POD, that got bestowed on whatever private-labels mostly like Western Auto and Mont. Ward, though w/ its TOL-console, borrowed from Norge...



-- Dave


Post# 964702 , Reply# 12   10/28/2017 at 14:47 by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Because of their painted bodies and lack of care from owners,these would rust out in a few years. This was my least favorite in design. Doors and opening areas were real rust buckets. I hated the oval windows. You can be sure...if it's Westinghouse.

Post# 964727 , Reply# 13   10/28/2017 at 18:08 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Wonderful Westinghouse Laundry Pairs

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These FL WHs were still WHs pride and joy, they worked great these washers could a larger load than any other AW built in the US from the time they were introduced in 1959, and the same size tub was continued till some time in 1994. I can easily wash 8 pairs of my jeans in these washers [ size W32 I 34-36 ] And I have never had a tangled any thing in these machines.

 

Yes these machines were not as reliable as most other washers and dryers, but they were easy to repair and I would rather have a 3 Belt WH washer any day to a MT for example because of the superior washing and rinsing performance all without wearing out your clothing.

 

My brothers and I used a 1969 WH FL washer like these for about two years in the mid 70s and we never had a problem getting beautifully clean clothing out of it.

 

I have the SXS dryer from the POTD, I would love to have the matching FL washer,   ps : this TOL pair does have  porcelain tops and both machines have porcelain baskets, rust was no more a problem on these machines than other brands.

 

John L.

 

John L.


Post# 964728 , Reply# 14   10/28/2017 at 18:08 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Wonderful Westinghouse Laundry Pairs

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These FL WHs were still WHs pride and joy, they worked great these washers could a larger load than any other AW built in the US from the time they were introduced in 1959, and the same size tub was continued till some time in 1994. I can easily wash 8 pairs of my jeans in these washers [ size W32 I 34-36 ] And I have never had a tangled any thing in these machines.

 

Yes these machines were not as reliable as most other washers and dryers, but they were easy to repair and I would rather have a 3 Belt WH washer any day to a MT for example because of the superior washing and rinsing performance all without wearing out your clothing.

 

My brothers and I used a 1969 WH FL washer like these for about two years in the mid 70s and we never had a problem getting beautifully clean clothing out of it.

 

I have the SXS dryer from the POTD, I would love to have the matching FL washer,   ps : this TOL pair does have  porcelain tops and both machines have porcelain baskets, rust was no more a problem on these machines than other brands.

 

John L.

 

John L.


Post# 964737 , Reply# 15   10/28/2017 at 20:18 by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Someday

I intend to have a set, the dryers worked well too, the cross vane tumbling really worked!..Im not sold AT ALL on reverse tumbling, when the tub stops..its NOT WASHING, the Westinghouse has continuous action!

Post# 964738 , Reply# 16   10/28/2017 at 20:40 by leefree (Los Angeles)        
Because who doesn't iron the board cover

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while holding a handbag? Lol

Post# 964739 , Reply# 17   10/28/2017 at 20:43 by appnut (TX)        

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With these side opening doors, last time I was around one, there is no weight-to-save feature.


Post# 964741 , Reply# 18   10/28/2017 at 20:59 by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)        
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I think we've had this discussion before! She is out shopping for a new washer and dryer and is testing out the ironing board cupboard. I can't speak to laundromat machines but I have 1953, 1955 and 1958 slant front pairs and a 1970 straight front and I can assure you the straight front will hold more laundry than the slant front. Westinghouse also came out with a straight front for Montgomery Ward in 1958. Jeb

Post# 964800 , Reply# 19   10/29/2017 at 10:14 by appnut (TX)        

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Late winter/early spring 1978, I had a contract on a brand new build condo in SW Houston that had stacked Space Mates and was one of the reasons why I liked the townhouse.  It also had a WP dishwasher.  Not 2 seeks after I signed the contract,  found out I was beieng transferred to northwest Houston and had to have a letter from VP stating I was going to have to relocate and that was the only way I was able to get out of the contract.  After I was transferred up here in 1986, found out one of the engineers who had liv3eed here for a long time, they had a Laundromat with the side-swing door.  That's all they'd had were WH front loaders as well as her mom and it was the only acceptable washer.  They nursed this last one along as long as they could until it rusted itself to death.  they hated the top loader they had to settle for when WH had ceased production of these. 


Post# 964808 , Reply# 20   10/29/2017 at 11:31 by brucelucenta (Italy)        

It all goes back to personal preference I guess. I personally have never liked Westinghouse front loaders and found them to be much less than most other machines as far as washability and water extraction. They were useful for me in the commercial laundry though, for small dark loads of shirts and pants because they got rid of most all of the lint and sediment. So I do have to give it them for that because they were plentiful and fairly easy to work on too.




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