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Lady Kenmore portable washer has a bad timer
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Post# 968773   11/18/2017 at 16:45 by Maytag85 (25 miles from Idywild, 25 miles from Temecula. )        

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I believe the timer on my Lady Kenmore portable washer has a bad timer. I fills with water even when I advance it to the off position. Is it the timer, or is it something else?




Post# 968792 , Reply# 1   11/18/2017 at 17:44 by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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water valve stuck open

Post# 968813 , Reply# 2   11/18/2017 at 19:41 by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        
Agree w/ Yogitunes

Definitely the timer, but one more thing to check, try unplugging it.

Post# 968816 , Reply# 3   11/18/2017 at 20:11 by Maytag85 (25 miles from Idywild, 25 miles from Temecula. )        

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I advanced the timer to the off position, and the water wouldn't shut off. The timer is most likely bad.

Post# 968818 , Reply# 4   11/18/2017 at 20:21 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        

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The first thing to do when water will not shut off is unplug the machine, if it keeps filling you have a bad inlet valve.

 

If it only fills when plugged in it could be a bad timer or shorted wiring.

 

But it would really help if when you [ or anyone else for that matter ] would post a model # of the machine in question, as a rule I do not waste my time guessing when the person seeking advice will not even supply basic information.

 

John L.


Post# 968820 , Reply# 5   11/18/2017 at 20:29 by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        
Sorry!!!!!

I was typing without thinking, I meant to write "Agree with Yogitunes, Definitely NOT the timer...."

Post# 968825 , Reply# 6   11/18/2017 at 20:38 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
While no expert

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Will chime in with others and say a bad fill solenoid/fill valve is a likely culprit.

What probably is happening is the fill valve/solenoid is stuck in "energized" and thus failing to respond when washer (via pressure switch or timer) tells it to stop filling.

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Post# 968900 , Reply# 7   11/19/2017 at 09:15 by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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It could also be that someone might have taken the inlet screens out of the valve and now something got into the valve like sand or a chunk of calcium from the plumbing and it won’t let the valve piston reseat itself to close off the water flow. I am willing to bet this person might also have grit in their water.

Post# 968968 , Reply# 8   11/19/2017 at 18:46 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Even if it is grit or whatever causing the solenoid to jam open, it still wants replacing.

Anything that *might* be done to dislodge a "jam" will require taking the thing out anyway. Once you've gone down that path just as easy to replace with new and be done. IIRC taking apart solenoids to "repair" is rarely worth the bother.



Post# 968990 , Reply# 9   11/19/2017 at 20:40 by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Exactly what I thought too Laundress. Once it’s in the valve it just makes sense to replace it. I doubt this is a timer thing. My thinking is that if the power is taken off the valve should close since there is no power to keep the solenoid energized open.

Post# 969017 , Reply# 10   11/20/2017 at 00:54 by Maytag85 (25 miles from Idywild, 25 miles from Temecula. )        
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It could be a stuck open valve, but when the timer is in the off position, I can hear the solenoids buzzing! the valve could be stuck open, but the buzzing stops when I push the knob in at the off position, but when I pull the knob back out, the solenoids buzz/hum.

Post# 969040 , Reply# 11   11/20/2017 at 04:29 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Mother's old 1982 GE did that...it was the valve.


Post# 969043 , Reply# 12   11/20/2017 at 05:15 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
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If the solenoids are buzzing/humming when you pull out the timer, but no water is connected; well they would wouldn't they? The thing or things are calling for water but none is coming.

Should these sounds come from any where timer is pointed that requires machine to fill with water, and you've pulled out said device (started machine/energized solenoid), but you've disconnected water, again the valves are dead or going.

One small mercy for you is that the washer in question is portable and not (assuming) permanently connected to water. People have flooded out their laundry areas/homes thanks to a stuck solenoid in washing machine.

Simply put regardless of the timer being at an "off" position or not, long as there is electric power to the machine solenoid (if faulty and stuck in "open") will continue to allow water into tub. Just like a sink or tub when taps are left running, a top loader (or even some dishwashers) will continue to fill under such circumstances with water having to go *somewhere*.

Many modern dishwashers and front loading washing machines have *water control systems* designed to (among other things) shut/block off water in hose from the tap when leaking/excess water situation is detected.





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