Thread Number: 73450
/ Tag: Twin-Tub Washers
1961 Duo-Matic Twin Tub |
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Post# 969888 , Reply# 1   11/25/2017 at 14:12 (2,315 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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I've always wanted a twin tub, actually have thought about buying a Danby over the past few years. We never sold those in the volume that you did in GB. |
Post# 971705 , Reply# 7   12/5/2017 at 11:32 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Here is an advert for the Duomatic 'Triumph' twintub, in TV-Times magazine from May 1963.
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Post# 971707 , Reply# 9   12/5/2017 at 11:48 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of Al (Vacbear58)
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Post# 971718 , Reply# 11   12/5/2017 at 12:43 (2,305 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Well what a load of interesting stuff has emerged about this machine :)
I had wondered if these were the original Dutch design that I thought the Rolls was derived from with Rolls taking out as much of the cost as possible - lighter guage metal, a constant re-circulating pump for the wash tub rather than a separate motor and perhaps smaller capacity. I wonder how this machine, with its bottom pulsator, would have performed without the recirculation jet to keep the clothes under water - this has been noted as a problem with the AEG model although perhaps with a circular tub thsi might not have been so much of an issue. I completely forgot I had that advertisment (and honestly I thought it was a Rolls) - I need to get a spreadsheet going of my literature. I am staggered that the price of that automatic machine could have been so low, unless they were able to buy a bulk load of machines that were going to be replaced. |
Post# 971725 , Reply# 12   12/5/2017 at 13:05 (2,305 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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In doing a bit of research my first point of call was Which, and the first reference I have to Duomatic is in 1964 - there may have been an earlier report which I do not have scanned.
In the table on Page 2 there Duomatic machine seems to be rather larger than the Rolls derived machines: Bylock (owned by Rolls at this time), Goblin, English Electric, and the two Rolls Models - with a curious diversity in sizes in each of those - I think there must be a mistake in the table as they all appear to be teh same price the Rolls in particular looks incorrect. This report came out more or less at the time that Rolls went bust. The washing capacity of the Duomatic is larger too In reading the report it is also curious to note the variation in results between machines which appear, at least superficially, to be identical although it appears that the Bylock did not have the re-cirulation jet so the EE gets a very good rating and yet others do not. Shame there are not more pictures of the machines .... |
Post# 971758 , Reply# 13   12/5/2017 at 16:33 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of Clydesdale Electrical Stores, and Grace's Guide for retaining the advert! And thanks, Al, for the vintage Which? data!
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Post# 971766 , Reply# 14   12/5/2017 at 16:52 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of a previous posting by Chestermikeuk... AEG Lavalux Super, Brunlec Twin Spin, Hoover 65, Acme Twin Speed, Stokvis Twin Tub... Most should match Al's Which? report.
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Post# 971770 , Reply# 15   12/5/2017 at 16:56 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Again courtesy of Chestermikeuk... Hotpoint Supermatic, Easytwin, GEC Space-Saver
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Post# 971777 , Reply# 16   12/5/2017 at 17:51 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of Pinterest
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Post# 971791 , Reply# 17   12/5/2017 at 18:51 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Post# 971792 , Reply# 18   12/5/2017 at 18:56 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Again, courtesy of Manchestervacs. I spelt Easitwin wrongly earlier above in the thread as 'Easytwin'
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Post# 971797 , Reply# 19   12/5/2017 at 19:40 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy P. Townsend, via Flickr
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Post# 971799 , Reply# 20   12/5/2017 at 19:52 (2,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Matchboxpaul: I myself had no idea about the Duomatic 'Automaster', nor the Rolls 'Robot' until this thread today! Thanks for the Rolls 'Robot' advert. I wonder if any were ever made or sold? |
Post# 971865 , Reply# 21   12/6/2017 at 03:18 (2,305 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Dear All,
Great info coming out here...I did wonder what the Automaster looked like. I found a pic in the archives of the "Concorde's" in action Cheers Keith
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Post# 971869 , Reply# 22   12/6/2017 at 05:49 (2,304 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 971888 , Reply# 24   12/6/2017 at 07:03 (2,304 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Here is the text about the similarities.
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Post# 971896 , Reply# 27   12/6/2017 at 08:21 (2,304 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I think you are right on the money as regards the Imperial Rex (later Zanussi???) being "badged" to become the Rolls Robot, probably buying up a batch of them in rather the same way as whoever was the distributor or the Imperial branded machine.
I have the impression that Duomatic were operating in much the same way buying up batches of machines for sale of varying types - it makes me smile to see how Duomatic emphasise in their ads on how there are no gimmicks, no extras as opposed to Rolls who are offering all sorts of extras to induce the purchase. I am hoping that Louis will have something to add to this thread as the the twintubs seem to come from Holland and an H Axis top loader seems almost certain to be European too. I did wonder if Duomatic was set up by a former Rolls employee to "play them at their own game" As regards twin tubs Vs automatics it seems to me to be a combination of timing and manufacture. It seems to be that from about 1948 to 1973 the market UK washing machine market was driven by Hoover. Although it was a technically simple machine and indeed rather smaller capacity than competitors (Hotpoint, Servis and the new kid on the block at that time Ada) it was so heavily promoted (and on the reputation of Hoover cleaners too) taht it took the market by storm as it was also cheap (and bear in mind we had a punitative sales tax too) and would easily fit in a small British kitchens too - as the saying goes "its better than going down to a river and beating them on a rock". 10 years later Hoover do it again with the launch of the Hoovermatic - mature technology for them at the time - a premium priced machine that must have cost a great deal less to manufacture because it was still simpler than the competition. With a relaxing of credit restrictions again it took the market by storm and it was into this market place that John Bloom launched Rolls. Again the machines were very heavily promoted (and lets not forget Bloom's association with Charles Colston - the man who set up Hoover in the UK and made it a bigger company than its American owner) just as the Hoovers were with press advertising and product placement. Aspirations were rising and it was no longer as acceptable for women to stand at a sink for hours and, even better, they did not have to wring the clotes either. One step up again. It took really about abother 15 years or so for the balance to tip in favour of FL automatics so that "Wash day? Just forget it" became the norm for the British housewife/consumer - and for a most of that time Hoover were still selling thousands of high margin twin tubs which were MUCH more profitable than automatics and it was in their interest to keep it that way, eevn though they did have a range of automatics too |
Post# 971899 , Reply# 28   12/6/2017 at 08:40 (2,304 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of Retropia Notice the reply coupon (just legible)... it lists the 'Popular' and 'De Luxe' models!
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Post# 971900 , Reply# 29   12/6/2017 at 08:47 (2,304 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Matches Reply #13 Again, courtesy of Retropia.
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Post# 971901 , Reply# 30   12/6/2017 at 08:53 (2,304 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy the Corby News
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Post# 971903 , Reply# 31   12/6/2017 at 08:59 (2,304 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of Alamy.
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Post# 971907 , Reply# 33   12/6/2017 at 09:43 (2,304 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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At this moment I have little to contribute to this topic. In another thread I mentioned that it is possible that Rolls machines were made by the "Domestic Wasmachinefabriek" in Amerongen. There is hardly any information about that factory. However I found someone on Facebook who was once an employee at Domestic. He isn't very active on Facebook so I can only hope that he reads my message and shed some light on it.
As for the Automaster, I have no idea who made it. I will have a look through my old advertisements. Perhaps something similar was made in the NL. BTW, in the eighties Castor was a cheap line of Zanussi products. I used one at a camping site near Venice. |
Post# 971912 , Reply# 34   12/6/2017 at 09:59 (2,304 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Indeed so. I remember my mum was liberated in 1980! It was fabulous. My gran was liberated in 1982. |
Post# 971914 , Reply# 35   12/6/2017 at 10:00 (2,304 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 971916 , Reply# 36   12/6/2017 at 10:08 (2,304 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 972107 , Reply# 38   12/7/2017 at 08:25 (2,303 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I doubt very much that Hoover would have supplied motors to a very obvious competitor however their motors where supplied by Bylock - known mainly for making vacuum cleaners - a bit of UK terminology (often Hoover - Vacuum Cleaner) may have muddied the waters.
In fact Rolls took over Bylock in 1963 so of course it crashed when Rolls went down. Al |
Post# 972110 , Reply# 40   12/7/2017 at 08:45 (2,303 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Hoover might have been willing to sell to an unknown company in 1960, but once they knew what he was up to, they might then reconsider their sales of parts. |
Post# 972111 , Reply# 41   12/7/2017 at 08:50 (2,303 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I have searched for Schrouten etc. especially in Dutch ofcourse. Nothing!
I have found only one ad for a Dutch made toploader, a Ruton. Ruton was later purchased by Philips. I'll post the picture here for the fun of it and also so we can establish there aren't any similarity between the Ruton and the Duomatic Automaster.
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Post# 972119 , Reply# 42   12/7/2017 at 09:24 (2,303 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Indeed Hoover did supply motors, occasionally you see adverts on ebay for them, but I doubt they would have supplied these - the ads generally show larger, industral style motors. When I am back home I will check to see if there is any indication when Bylock began the supply.
Are you reading this article on line or did you buy the book? Louis, thank you for your research, interesting picture, when might this be from? Now something occurs to me. It looks like the Automaster is an H Axis machine but the impression I have is that the tub is aligned from side to side rather than front to back. The first Philips top loaders that I know of also had the tub in this alignment (made in Halifax in what started out as the Ada factory) before changing to the more familiar front to back format. I wonder if Philips picked up some other company along the way? I have articles with Philips toploaders at least to 1968, there was a new model in 1969. Just out of interest Louis have you any reference to Colston dishwashers or indeed any Colston appliances being sold in Holland? Al |
Post# 972121 , Reply# 44   12/7/2017 at 09:40 (2,303 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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And Google Books' 'preview only' is a right royal pain! (pages edited out of my particular view). |
Post# 972130 , Reply# 45   12/7/2017 at 11:30 (2,303 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I agree, Google Books is a PITA!
The ad of the Ruton toploader is from December 24 1965. Philips had quite a few series of toploaders. I think some models might have been manufactured at the same time. There was the CC1000 60cm wide line, the 45cm Slimstar (also named CC1000 in the NL), the 40cm Slimstar models (several generations) and the earlier 40cm (or a bit less?) toploaders with the glass lids. Etc. etc. I think I have seen a few Colston ads, but I can't find them at the moment. I have quite a few ads that I have to sort out, the files only have a number now. When I have done that, the plan is to share them here. Yes, the Duomatic Automaster could be a V-axis machine. But we don't know for sure, the drum could be low in the cabinet so that you can't see the hatches. |
Post# 972151 , Reply# 47   12/7/2017 at 13:50 (2,303 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Just a little sidestep. I found a few Colston dishwashers advertised.
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Post# 972156 , Reply# 48   12/7/2017 at 14:08 (2,303 days old) by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))   |   | |
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I'm enjoying all this extra fascinating information coming out about the Duomatic, I'll see if I can have a look at the motors tomorrow to see if there is any identification on them to see if that helps. Ian |
Post# 972160 , Reply# 49   12/7/2017 at 14:30 (2,303 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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...in Reply #27. It appears to be an agitator washer. Courtesy of Grace's Guide.
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Post# 972161 , Reply# 50   12/7/2017 at 14:36 (2,303 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Purely for reference purposes. Courtesy of Grace's Guide.
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Post# 972318 , Reply# 55   12/8/2017 at 08:36 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Looks like a Duomatic clone. Courtesy of esbarchives.
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Post# 972322 , Reply# 56   12/8/2017 at 08:53 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Sales blurb
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Post# 972346 , Reply# 58   12/8/2017 at 10:23 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Another 1960's Duomatic advert. Courtesy of Alamy.
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Post# 972348 , Reply# 60   12/8/2017 at 10:28 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Ian, in your photo #1, it shows the ratings plate. Notice that the "Duo-matic" name is slightly displaced - like a stuck-on label. What does it say under this 'sticker'? |
Post# 972353 , Reply# 61   12/8/2017 at 10:52 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Dated Monday, July 20th 1964. Courtesy of littlereddog and of course the Daily Mirror. You might find it a tad clearer following the link, and clicking on their magnification. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rolls_rapide's LINK
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Post# 972355 , Reply# 62   12/8/2017 at 10:59 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of littlereddog and Daily Mirror.
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Post# 972358 , Reply# 63   12/8/2017 at 11:08 (2,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Here's the link I missed out for the 18th July paper. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rolls_rapide's LINK |
Post# 972525 , Reply# 66   12/9/2017 at 07:44 (2,301 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Could someone make a quick summary of exactly what happened-the chronology and situation is kind of scattered over this thread? From what I can gather, Hoover was the class-act in the twin-tub space; then two low-end competitors came out and did each other in (with a direct-selling model), leaving Hoover relatively unscathed. Or, is there a link to a business-school case or something? It sounds a little like Mad Man Muntz and television in the US in the mid to late 50s.
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Post# 972531 , Reply# 68   12/9/2017 at 08:30 (2,301 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Apparently Which? criticised a competitor machine in April 1964...
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Post# 972882 , Reply# 72   12/10/2017 at 19:44 (2,300 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Courtesy of "Company Law in Context: Text and Materials" by David Kershaw.
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Post# 972978 , Reply# 74   12/11/2017 at 10:28 (2,299 days old) by Alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Post# 972994 , Reply# 78   12/11/2017 at 11:48 (2,299 days old) by Alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Just looked again at the picture and you can see it connected to the tap!
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Post# 972999 , Reply# 79   12/11/2017 at 11:56 (2,299 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)   |   | |
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again, this is great to see, I agree that tap connection looks more robust than the usual rubber funnel shape hose ends. Now for an exploded view to see the jet arrangement. lol oh just great to have these questions answered. |
Post# 973067 , Reply# 82   12/11/2017 at 17:30 (2,299 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Really enjoying this post. Colston Twin Tubs have always hit the spot for me. Gorgeous looking & performing Machines.
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Post# 973155 , Reply# 83   12/12/2017 at 03:07 (2,299 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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What a lot of interesting information coming out of this thread ....
I derive a different understanding of how the auto rinse worked as I dont think it had a water valve at all. There appear to be two controls - one for heat and wash time. I think the other is just a simple timer albiet with a valve (which is shown in the diagram in reply 77) which controls the OUTLET water supply rather than the inlet. Consider the close up of the control in reply 73 picture 4 and the words on picture five. I think the time simply cycled the spinner on an off with a manual control (i.e. turning the tap on and off) to control in water inlet - after all this was basically the mechanism used in the Hoovermatic and HP Supermatic although in these the cycling of the spinner was controlled by a pressure pot. Going from the longest to shortest: Full Cycle Spin Rinse Spin Dry Suds So I reckon the operation is as follows: When clothes are first loaded in the spinner close the lid and turn switch to suds. As the spinner starts the water valve is activated to send the sunds to the re-circulation flume in the was tub Having done this, move the switch to Full Cycle and turn the water on. The water valve sends the waste water to the emptying hose and the spinner cycles off and on for several intervals. I think Spin Rinse is the end of this cycle so perhaps one rinse and spin cycle (for handwashed items for example). At the end of this segment the water is manually switched off and the spin proceeds for several minutes - Spin Dry. It is not clear if the cycle would stop at the end of Spin Dry or proceed through the suds section - even if the water valve was sending the spun water back to the wash tub it would only be a dribble at this point. So, not quite as automatic as it was made out to be, but then it was the same on all the twin tubs of this style. Thats my take on it anyway. There are actualy quite a few Rolls machines knocking around one way or another but the Colston Coronet (the successor machine which would have been in production for may 13 or 14 years) remains elusive - I cannot recall seeing even one on ebay over the years I have been looking. I have NIB examples of both the Colston single tub washer and spinner in the collection as well as another washer which has been used. A third went to Ian some months back. I have seen an example of the last Ariston iteration of the twin tub machine which by my recollection was somewhat larger (certainly taller) machine - more of the scale of a Supertwin although there was no indication that the washing capacity was any larger. The price comparisons are complete bollocks as in most cases the machines are much more advanced or fully featured and in several they are fully or semi automatic machines so not comporable at all. Al |
Post# 973167 , Reply# 84   12/12/2017 at 04:36 (2,298 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Hi Al,
Sounds like a good thinking plan of how it could possibly work, some of these things were very gimmicky at the time, and 9 times out of 10 was just easier to spray rinse the load in the spinner. There were many variations on the "Rolls" concept / design, including the Frigidaire Mastertwin. Cheers Keith |
Post# 973177 , Reply# 85   12/12/2017 at 05:40 (2,298 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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I actually never realised that the Frigidaire Mastertwin was a Rolls copy. I do like the pale blue wash tub interior. |
Post# 973179 , Reply# 86   12/12/2017 at 05:59 (2,298 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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As I remember it the Colston Coronet had the same colour tub (my brother bought one for his wife in 1975 - it was something like £66 - I remember telling him he should have asked me first (naturally!!) as I would have pushed him towards an Indesit L5 which was around £75 and as much as they could have afforded) and the knobs look similar to the Coronet too although in a different position. As Keith says, there were a great many different versions of these machines although towards the end of the 1960s they seem to die out leaving just the Colston - this may just be an early sign of the decline in popularity of twin tub machines
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Post# 973221 , Reply# 88   12/12/2017 at 11:52 (2,298 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 973250 , Reply# 92   12/12/2017 at 14:35 (2,298 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Mathew
If Parnall ever made a twin tub they would have combined a mechanical valve with the timer, why have a simple solution when a complicated one will do :) Oh well I suppose we will have to wait until a machine or a set of instructions comes along to find out :) Of course we could always make our own autorinse version ..... |
Post# 973255 , Reply# 93   12/12/2017 at 15:18 (2,298 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 973260 , Reply# 94   12/12/2017 at 16:03 (2,298 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 973687 , Reply# 101   12/14/2017 at 18:53 (2,296 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 973788 , Reply# 102   12/15/2017 at 12:09 (2,295 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 974264 , Reply# 107   12/17/2017 at 14:53 (2,293 days old) by anthony (uk)   |   | |
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an English electric version of that frigidaire twintub it was mechanicaly identical .Also the little round fridgidaire spin dryer was not water tight .it had a rubber collar about 2 inches high consequently if you poured too much water into it it would come pouring out the bottom.can anyone tell me what the lever on the front of the ADA tt was for ? the reason i ask is i once saw a TT that had a similar lever all it did was move the one and only motor from the washer to the spinner
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Post# 974297 , Reply# 109   12/17/2017 at 17:40 (2,293 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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12th June 1964... Mentions Bloom's Bulgarian holidays - which appeared not to be quite as advertised - nothing new there then! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rolls_rapide's LINK |
Post# 974563 , Reply# 110   12/19/2017 at 03:41 (2,292 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)   |   | |
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It's connected to the pump. IIRC to the left was 'wash & spin' and the right was 'empty tub' |
Post# 974564 , Reply# 111   12/19/2017 at 04:57 (2,291 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Hi Anthony,
As Paul said the lever on the front of the Ada-Matic also like the AEG Lavalux, this was a valve, this allowed water to flow into a two-way port diverter from either the wash tub or spinner, then one exit to the pump. It was an economical solution without having to have separate pumps. |
Post# 974565 , Reply# 112   12/19/2017 at 05:23 (2,291 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The later Agilux had a smaller lever on the control panel. I guess that had the same function.
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Post# 974848 , Reply# 113   12/21/2017 at 08:44 (2,289 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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This photo of Milestones Museum is courtesy of TripAdvisor Notice that the 'Rolls' mark is rather ornate on this machine! When did that happen? I was only ever aware of the block lettering.
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Post# 974961 , Reply# 114   12/22/2017 at 02:26 (2,289 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Austin,
With reference to your question in Thread 88# - the Frigidaire doesn't have an auto-rinse feature and rinsing is done by filler hose into the spinner. Thread 113# That "Rolls" logo is very swirly - I think it would have been an earlier design as the later logo was as you say more block style and always in the left-hand corner. I had some information come through the other day, EMELEC ? just a Rolls re-branded under the East Midlands Electricity Board. Cheers Keith
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Post# 974979 , Reply# 115   12/22/2017 at 08:20 (2,288 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Thanks for that. It looks like the Rolls 'Concorde' in Reply #19, but with squarer lids hinged at the rear, rather than diagonally. |
Post# 975316 , Reply# 116   12/24/2017 at 13:17 (2,286 days old) by anthony (uk)   |   | |
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Post# 976602 , Reply# 117   1/2/2018 at 15:37 (2,277 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Over the holidays I got a bundle of magazines & brochures which included copies of "Practical Householder" and "Do It Yourself" both from August 1964. Both included a variation of the Automaster advert shown above. The first picture is the whole ad, the second one is an enlargement of teh text to hopefully make it easier to read.
Interestingly both of these magazines would have been directed at men rather than women. It may be that this machine was a means to entice folks up to the more expensive (but lower manufacturing cost twin tub) or even the more expensive automatic model. This would almost have been a last gasp for Duomatic as they went bust shortly afterwards. The programming is very limited and it is curious to see Synthetics (aka Permament Press or as we know it Minimum Iron) be in theory a shorter programme than wollens and I suspect the spin drying to be both slow speed and short duration. I think also that it must be a top loading, H axis machine - there have been some front loaders produced with more or less that footprint. |
Post# 980880 , Reply# 119   2/1/2018 at 17:18 (2,247 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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And just when we all thought this thread had come to close, this turns up.
This is a page from what is described as a trade catalogue which has just been listed on ebay. The seller says 1964 but it is more likely 1965 or 1966 as the Keymatic is listed as the 3226 although the picture shows the earlier 3224. Anyhow, the item of interest is yet another variation of the Rolls machine - now manufactured by Tallent since the demise of Rolls. I had never known of Morphy Richards ever marketing a washing machine although they had been manufacturing spin driers for several years at this point Al
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Post# 980887 , Reply# 120   2/1/2018 at 18:05 (2,247 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Was fairly common back in the day all over, and maybe still goes on far as one knows.
Laundromats depending upon several factors either made their money on washers, or the dryers. Sometimes things balanced out, but in many cases someone who washed things elsewhere (at home), then lugging their wet wash to use laundryette dryers was discouraged. Many places even put up signs saying "no drying only". Other reason was how the place was planned out; that is ratio of washers to dryers. Many laundromats saw those who washed and dried as true customers (see above), and didn't think they should have to wait for a dryer while someone else who didn't do their washing at the place was hogging one. |
Post# 980935 , Reply# 121   2/2/2018 at 03:39 (2,247 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Hi Al,
I saw that page of washers and the Morphy Richards thing also caught my eye, I have seen in Home magazines of the time that Morphy Richards were listed as selling a twin tub similar to the Rolls machine, there were quiet a few companies that adopted the "Rolls" principal: Frigidaire Goblin Pye Burco Electricity boards own brands Cheers Keith |