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Post# 971123   12/2/2017 at 10:47 (2,334 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I picked up this dryer a few months ago from cl with the understanding that it ran but wasn't heating. It came with the matching washer both in avacodo. Well today I finally finished putting in my gas line for the dryer and decided to give it a shot. I guess you know what happened...... Nothing... Well it hummed for a second then nothing. The motor is just about seized along with the drum, the only thing that turns nicely is the idler pully. Not to mention the corrosion but WOW, must have been in a very damp basement. I guess I have my work cut out for me if I want to get this thing running or I guess I could keep looking.

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Post# 971127 , Reply# 1   12/2/2017 at 11:09 (2,334 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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If the motor doesn't engage, then the gas valve won't engage. Sounds like there is a issue with the motor.

Post# 971131 , Reply# 2   12/2/2017 at 11:29 (2,334 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I would say that is correct. I'm going to have to disassemble this thing completely. I'll try to clean and lube the motor, if that doesn't work there's a shop down the road that can repair it for me and there not too expensive, I bring all my motor work to them. I'm going to have to pull the control panel apart and get rid of all that corrosion too. I think it will be more labor intensive than anything else. Couple cans of gray paint too.

Post# 971142 , Reply# 3   12/2/2017 at 12:42 (2,334 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Corroded MT HOH Gas Dryer

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Between the damage from the constant burning pilot light and a VERY damp basement you may be better off with another dryer.

The welded GE motor in this dryer is not repairable, I would look for another motor.

John L.


Post# 971145 , Reply# 4   12/2/2017 at 13:12 (2,334 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Another thing that is going to need is the felt that goes around the drum at the front. I I don't even know where to source that from.


Post# 971147 , Reply# 5   12/2/2017 at 13:16 (2,334 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

So if anyone knows of a DG606 or higher like a DG806 for sale in my area and my area is pretty large cause I will travel I would appreciate it if you would let me know.

Post# 971168 , Reply# 6   12/2/2017 at 17:32 (2,334 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

So it looks like I can find a motor no problem and for not much money. I will still go to my guy, I'm sure he'll have one for me also. The bigger problem is trying to find that big felt seal for the front of the drum. I got the whole thing torn down and the rust isn't all that bad, more surface rust than anything. If I decide to keep it and move forward a wire brush and a couple of gray spray bombs will definitely make it look like new. I'm also going to paint the cabinet white.

Post# 971170 , Reply# 7   12/2/2017 at 18:08 (2,334 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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I hate to rain on your parade but it’s really hard to find those front seals for the gas HOH. The bottom part of the cabinet can be repainted but the porcelain top is so slick it’s hard to get paint to stick.

Post# 971172 , Reply# 8   12/2/2017 at 18:19 (2,334 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Could that front seal be made as in could I make it


Post# 971191 , Reply# 9   12/2/2017 at 20:30 (2,334 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Front Seals For Gas HOH Dryers are hard to find, but they are easy to make if you are handy.

 

You could do much better getting and electric HOH dryer and using the parts from yours to make a gas dryer, hopefully you could even find a white HOH electric dryer then you would only have to paint the cabinet front panel to have a good condition gas one.

 

John L.


Post# 971193 , Reply# 10   12/2/2017 at 20:39 (2,334 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Your enthusiasm for a Maytag dryer is good to see. For some, the best part of getting a new (blank) is making it at least functional. Check with McMaster Carr for a suitable replacement felt, I'm sure some here can help pick a substitute. New belts for this are easy to find online or at a well endowed hardware store. Electronic control units for HOH dryers show up on eBay, if you need one.

The HOH isn't a bad dryer, I've known some that were beloved by their users for many years. Fix it, use it, enjoy it - have your fling. Then find a nice Kenmore and settle down. Just kidding, enjoy your dryer.  w1

 


Post# 971267 , Reply# 11   12/3/2017 at 11:34 (2,333 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

So I just found a DE806 I think, it has the chrome around the top and the chrome divide on the control panel. Says it blows cold air and only wants 25 bucks for it. Could I convert this to gas with my parts or would it make a difference that it's a 806

Post# 971306 , Reply# 12   12/3/2017 at 15:30 (2,333 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Basically the same as your 606, only the 806 has a lighted control panel, and some more chrome.


Post# 971313 , Reply# 13   12/3/2017 at 15:55 (2,333 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

My ultimate goal is to have a matching set of 806's just like many others here

Post# 971473 , Reply# 14   12/4/2017 at 11:41 (2,332 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I've decided to to go ahead and rebuild this machine. I'm still looking for someone who can help me out on this journey with advice and help with sourcing some parts. There must be someone here who has experience with these gas HOH models that's done what I'm about to undertake. I've done some research here but don't see much for the gas model, I see a nice rebuild of a electric HOH that I can use some pointers on though.

Post# 971497 , Reply# 15   12/4/2017 at 13:25 (2,332 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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These Maytag Halo Of Heat dryers were built to last a lifetime. I know the gas Halo Of Heat dryers aren't as good as the electric versions, but they are better than modern dryers.

Post# 971498 , Reply# 16   12/4/2017 at 13:31 (2,332 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I've converted everything else in the house to gas, this is the final item left. My electric bill is out of site, this should bring it down a bunch.

Post# 971501 , Reply# 17   12/4/2017 at 14:00 (2,332 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Even though the Maytag Halo Of Heat gas dryer uses a standing pilot, it is still cheaper than using a electric dryer.

Post# 971503 , Reply# 18   12/4/2017 at 14:55 (2,332 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

In all honesty now that I have this machine pulled apart the rust isn't so bad, I'll get some more pics up soon.

Post# 971566 , Reply# 19   12/4/2017 at 20:20 (2,332 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
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Post# 971578 , Reply# 20   12/4/2017 at 21:05 (2,332 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Making room in the garage, got some other projects I need to finish first but they're easy. I have two lighted medicine cabinets I need to strip cause the previous owner painted them with latex and a brush so some sanding and a nice new coat of appliance white and there done.

Post# 971643 , Reply# 21   12/5/2017 at 04:52 (2,331 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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There is a way to convert it to an electronic ignition.  A thread exists on here somewhere telling about it.  I'll hunt for it.


Post# 971648 , Reply# 22   12/5/2017 at 05:34 (2,331 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
found it

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Post# 971667 , Reply# 23   12/5/2017 at 07:24 (2,331 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag HOH Gas Dryers

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I got 80% done restoring a Gas HOH 1958 TOL pink dryer a few years ago before I ran out of room and lost interest in the project. This one I converted to electric ignition by using the burner assembly from a newer MT SOH dryer. If you are actually going to use your dryer I would differently do the same, the constant burning pilot not only burns close to $5 worth of gas a month but also causes constant damage to most of the internal parts of your nice restored dryer [ to say nothing of producing enough carbon monoxide to set off many CM alarms ].

 

HOH of heat dryers are interesting fun machines, but when you get really serious about having a GREAT vintage gas dryer get something like a 1966 Lady Kenmore Gas dryer and you will be able to turn out perfectly dried laundry as fast as you can wash it all day long and not have to make any excuses for wrinkling, poor cool-down performance, small capacity, inconvenient lint filter design and poor ability to properly tumble large loads.

 

If you need any parts or help with the MT HOH dryer I have quite a few parts for them and of course I worked as a MT tech for many years, I have seen about anything possible that goes wrong with these interesting dryers.

 

John L.


Post# 971685 , Reply# 24   12/5/2017 at 09:39 (2,331 days old) by rickr (.)        
I did this 806g set years back

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And it is still in service today.

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Post# 971696 , Reply# 25   12/5/2017 at 10:51 (2,331 days old) by tazz (western massachusetts)        

so far I need the one part no one seems to have.... the front drum felt.

Post# 971733 , Reply# 26   12/5/2017 at 14:28 (2,331 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
Combo52

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How do you convert a Maytag gas halo of heat dryer to use electronic ignition?

Post# 971734 , Reply# 27   12/5/2017 at 14:29 (2,331 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
Combo52

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How do you convert a Maytag gas halo of heat dryer to use electronic ignition?

Post# 971735 , Reply# 28   12/5/2017 at 14:30 (2,331 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Ignore the duplicate post.

Post# 971813 , Reply# 29   12/5/2017 at 21:46 (2,331 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I might have a line on a DG107, how's that dryer, I know it's 22,000 btu with electronic ignition I think made in 78 but how's the dryer it's self. Anything basic I need to look out for.

Post# 971876 , Reply# 30   12/6/2017 at 06:37 (2,330 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
DG-107

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Is the newer larger faster SOH dryer design, overall its a BIG improvement over the HOH dryers, still no where nearly as good as a WP built 29" dryer however.

 

Major weak points of the MT SOH dryers are, crappy blower wheel that works loose from the motor shaft,

 

Little Teflon front drum bearings that wear down and destroy the edge of the dryer drum [ especially if your laundry has much sand and grit in it ].

 

Cheap plastic inner door liner and plastic blower housing.

 

Poor air-flow through lint-filter housing, fan and duct to rear of machine, MT really improved this area when the went to the 27" wide dryer they built.

 

But other than these minor problems MT SOH dryers can dry a lot of clothing and are very rebuildable, and if you want you can adapt the electric ignition burner assembly from it to fit your HOH dryer to get rid of the standing pilot.

 

John L.


Post# 972816 , Reply# 31   12/10/2017 at 14:07 (2,326 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        
Another dg606

So I picked up another DG606 yesterday along with a DG107. Spent a grand total of fifty bucks for them. I plan now on using the 107 for parts as I want to convert the 606 to electronic ignition. I searched but didn't find any definitive instructions on how to do it just that rickr had done one. The 606 I just got is not brand new for sure but it runs, there is some pilot light damage but not bad and everything is intact. I am having one problem with it though, I can dry clothes on damp dry as normal, as in if I start the machine on damp dry with no clothes it will shut off within a few seconds, with wet clothes it will dry them to damp as it should. On the other hand if I use the regular setting with no clothes it will just run and run, with wet clothes it will run and run even if after they are dry. I did see one article on this but then again nothing definitive. Here are some pics of the new one, the tag says it was made in 94.

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Post# 972817 , Reply# 32   12/10/2017 at 14:12 (2,326 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Oh yeah and in the spring I will tear this one down again and bring it outside for a nice new paint job. Just too cold now and too much snow.......

Post# 973013 , Reply# 33   12/11/2017 at 13:26 (2,325 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        
Electronic ignition

So I tore apart that DG107 and refitted the gas valve and injector to fit in the 606. I tried firing it up and I have ignition but no gas. I also put the correct 18,000 btu nozzle in also. Am I missing something? I now the 107 worked as I saw it before buying it.

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Post# 973034 , Reply# 34   12/11/2017 at 15:13 (2,325 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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There is a shutoff valve usually in the line before the valve. Is it open?


Post# 973047 , Reply# 35   12/11/2017 at 15:41 (2,325 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Figured it out, the ignitor/glow plug wasn't close enough to the thermal sensor. I repositioned it and all is good. There isn't enough room on the very front to mount the sensor so I had to mount it where you see it now. Pics to follow.

Post# 973053 , Reply# 36   12/11/2017 at 15:56 (2,325 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Here's a couple of pics of how I mounted it. I cut the bracket that holds the ignitor off the 107 and spot welded it to the top of the original 606 nozzle. Works perfect.

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Post# 973056 , Reply# 37   12/11/2017 at 16:09 (2,325 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Great job! Does it cycle like normal?


Post# 973057 , Reply# 38   12/11/2017 at 16:29 (2,325 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I believe that it does now. I haven't run a load through it yet. I used the duct and switch from the other 606 and it seems to have done the trick. With no clothes on regular it runs for approximately 10 minutes, cycles a couple of times, then the bell rings and runs in cool down mode then stops. I don't know the exact cycles for this but it seems right now.

Post# 973060 , Reply# 39   12/11/2017 at 16:57 (2,325 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

I sure am glad I got rid of that pilot though, now I can strip the rest of that first 606, save all the bits and pieces, get rid of the carcass and work on cleaning up the electrical parts and such and I should be all set....... Until I find a DG806 😁

Post# 973062 , Reply# 40   12/11/2017 at 17:05 (2,325 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        
A608

I have the really nice A608 sitting right next to the 606 now but when I run that she really is groaning so now I know what my next project will be. I got the matching A606 avocado washer with the first DG606, I guess I'll put that into service while I go through the A608. The journey never ends does it...... Of course I still want the A806 too😁

Post# 973166 , Reply# 41   12/12/2017 at 04:32 (2,324 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I'm glad you were able to convert it.  In my mind I know how to do it, but I have never had an HOH dryer and currently have no place to keep one should I find one.  The old girl should keep going for a long long time now.


Post# 973169 , Reply# 42   12/12/2017 at 04:48 (2,324 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

It should, when I had it apart I checked the bearing play on everything and gave it a good oiling. I'll have to go through the wiring and such due to the pilot light damage but with the second parts machine I should be fine. As I said earlier I will strip it down come spring and give her a fresh coat, should be like new then. I just love the look of the center dial maytags.

Post# 973184 , Reply# 43   12/12/2017 at 07:35 (2,324 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Electric Ignition Conversion On A HOH MT Gas Dryer

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I am impressed, Get in touch if you need any HOH parts, I think that I even found an extra new set of front felt seals for a MT HOH gas dryer, John L.


Post# 973191 , Reply# 44   12/12/2017 at 08:25 (2,324 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        

Thanks John, will do. The front felt on this one is intact just a few of the staples have given it up although I would love to have a spare front felt either that or I'll look more into msc and there hi-temp nomex type felt along with some appropriate thread. I should be able to fabricate the staples. I'm a aircraft mechanic/inspector by trade so I have plenty of stainless safety wire. I might even make little pads so the wire doesn't pull through the felt. The only thing that worries me right now is the amount of corrosion on the wire terminals but on the bright side I have a spare to work on.

I did a full load of wet laundry in it last night and and it took exactly one hour, the bell chimed and the dryer shut off and the clothes were definitely dry. The only thing it didn't do was run through the cool down cycle, any thoughts on that? I don't have any operating or repair manuals for this machine but it seems pretty straightforward. If I have to buy one I will but it will definitely have to wait until after Christmas.

Dan


Post# 973276 , Reply# 45   12/12/2017 at 18:16 (2,324 days old) by Tazz (western massachusetts)        
High temp felt

I am thinking about using this high temp nomex felt when I go through this in the spring. I'll get one 3" wide piece and one 1" wide piece of the proper length. www.mcmaster.com/#8796k54...


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