Thread Number: 73610
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
No Consumer Speed Queen Front Loaders in 2018?? |
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Post# 971980 , Reply# 1   12/6/2017 at 15:56 (2,304 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 971982 , Reply# 2   12/6/2017 at 15:56 (2,304 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Whoever gave that information was not well informed.
SQ *is* bringing out a 2018 model year line of domestic front loaders. Production has been delayed until January of new year due to issues in complying with (yet more) federal rules regarding water efficiency. According to my sources this will mean the redesigned washers will have totally new model numbers. That could be why *your* source is getting things confused. Looking at the current model numbers may not show anything after end of this year... |
Post# 971986 , Reply# 3   12/6/2017 at 16:17 (2,304 days old) by jcturbot (Central MA)   |   | |
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Launderess, I'm sure you are right, there was probably a misunderstanding between the dealer and his informant. Any ideas what changes the new SQ FL's will have? Heater? Larger capacity? More programs? Jeff |
Post# 972017 , Reply# 4   12/6/2017 at 19:08 (2,304 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 972018 , Reply# 5   12/6/2017 at 19:12 (2,304 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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When was the last time anyone recalls when the goobermint got involved with something and it actually worked out? |
Post# 972020 , Reply# 6   12/6/2017 at 19:15 (2,304 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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you drive on the highways. Every day that your police department works. And so on. Unpatriotic people living in this country disgust me. |
Post# 972065 , Reply# 11   12/6/2017 at 23:42 (2,304 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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John, unfortunately it's a waste of breath everywhere you encounter those who don't give a rat's ass about the greater good. That's why I don't bother with visiting the DL forum anymore.
I do agree though, that FL machines are superior to TL types in cleaning ability, but I also agree that a "hot" water selection should deliver exactly that, and not some sort of programmed "I know better" dumbed down version that's barely more than warm.
I am caregiver for my spouse, who is incontinent. My 2008 Frigidaire Affinity FL won't provide water as hot as I feel is required for processing certain items that must be washed on a daily basis, so I end up adding hot water from the tap. Not ideal, but there's no alternative other than the heated "sanitize" cycle, which is overkill and ties up the machine for more than two hours. |
Post# 972092 , Reply# 12   12/7/2017 at 06:16 (2,303 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 972101 , Reply# 13   12/7/2017 at 07:37 (2,303 days old) by jcturbot (Central MA)   |   | |
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What I thought was strange was that that the dealer stated Top loaders will continue as usual even though I'm sure those model #s have changed as well. We all know from the Lorainfurniture post that there is a new model SQ Top loader coming. Jeff |
Post# 972143 , Reply# 15   12/7/2017 at 13:08 (2,303 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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REFUSE to buy or use anything new! |
Post# 972147 , Reply# 16   12/7/2017 at 13:31 (2,303 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Is Keatons still going? Have you been there recently? |
Post# 972150 , Reply# 17   12/7/2017 at 13:48 (2,303 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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“What I find disgusting are those who tend to lean to the left who knee jerk criticize anyone who happens to have a different point of view.”
With all due respect it’s a two way street with these kind of comments. I seem to recall that you have more than once criticized members who have viewpoints that differ from your anti government ideas. I myself have been the recipient of some of your remarks. So, next time you think about making a derogatory remark about someone elses more liberal point of view, stop and think about how it felt for your viewpoint to be criticized. There can always be a way to get your point a cross with out making a personal attack. And for the record I happen to agree with you about some things. I just don’t see the EPA as the enemy. We should all be allowed to use hot water if we want to, without it being dumbed down and have our machines fill without flow restrictors. And I do believe that some of the new requirements for less water have maybe gone a little overboard. But that being said, many of our states do have a critical shortage of potable water. So even if Pennsylvania has an abundance of water, thats not the case for everyone. If the government is making changes to allow for future shortages, its in the best interest of us all. Eddie This post was last edited 12/07/2017 at 14:13 |
Post# 972155 , Reply# 18   12/7/2017 at 14:07 (2,303 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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If it wasn't for the government we'd still have pipes wrapped in asbestos. |
Post# 972164 , Reply# 20   12/7/2017 at 14:54 (2,303 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Well Ben, at least the sand is better than the other popular option . . .
As for why we need cleaners to run though our cleaners, that's easy. A corporatocracy now exists in this country, and any method they can come up with to create more revenue to keep for themselves rather than give back to the system that enriches them, they will lobby for and receive on a silver platter from the congressional representatives they bought and paid for as a result of a tilted SCOTUS upholding Citizens United.
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Post# 972178 , Reply# 21   12/7/2017 at 16:19 (2,303 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 972185 , Reply# 22   12/7/2017 at 16:56 (2,303 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 972190 , Reply# 23   12/7/2017 at 17:09 (2,303 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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You refuse to buy anything new...... good for you.....maybe you should refrain from posting in here with your constant negative attitude being this is a MODERN forum, kindly go hangout in the vintage forum. |
Post# 972197 , Reply# 24   12/7/2017 at 17:49 (2,303 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Ok, now I'm chiming in.
This scourge against machine cleaners is ridiculous. I'm 34, ... yeah just a "kid" but I'm old enough to remember the "good ole days." Do you know what else I remember? I remember my parents running Glisten through our 1970s GE dishwasher because after a while it would scale up or have some stains in the Plastisol. Now that machine used probably 10gal of water on Short Wash. Yet it still needed internal cleaning from time to time. You know what else I remember? I remember my mom (or her having ME) clean out the center agitator of soap and softener scum in our old Maytag washer. That and the little holes in the lint filter. That machine used lots of water, hot if you wanted it. Yet still needed to be periodically cleaned. You know what else I remember? Running cups of Cascade through different washing machines I had in apartments because they were DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!! We're talking DD Whirlpools. Post FF GEs. They had all sorts of gross buildup that needed some caustic cleaners run through them. Especially if neglected. Speaking of which. That "oh so nostalgic" GE Filter-Flo scent that some swoon about on here? That's from scum buildup on the outer tub and transmission boot in those famous Filter-Flos. I sure as heck bet those could've used some good doses of Affresh. Machines ALWAYS required some cleaning and maintenance as long as I can remember. Modern machines use a lower level of water, so yes, they don't always flush themselves out as well, all the time. But let's not get all "harumph-y" that we now all of a sudden have to clean our cleaners because of the stoopid gubmint putting its nose where it don't belong. These machine cleaners have always been around to fulfill a need. And they still do today. I run my Maxima through a Clean cycle every time it tells me to. Is it necessary? No, actually, it isn't. My boot is mold free, and the drum smells fresh all the time. Even if I skip a month. But I do it anyway because I like KEEPING my machines clean and in proper order. End rant :) |
Post# 972202 , Reply# 25   12/7/2017 at 18:22 (2,303 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 972217 , Reply# 26   12/7/2017 at 20:10 (2,303 days old) by Supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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I also stopped by a dealer today who was commpletely OUT of the old models and said he won't be getting anymore in :( He was taking a wait list for the new machines coming in January. |
Post# 972225 , Reply# 27   12/7/2017 at 20:36 (2,303 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Are mainly created by the appliance manufactures in conjunction with Experts that are funded by our elected representatives, and I and the majority of Americans generally support these efforts that have made life much safer, made our clothes and dishes cleaner all while saving the environment and saving consumers untold amounts of money.
Every other advanced country in the world is doing the same thing, so there is nothing wrong with the general approach we are taking in the US.
Hi Ben, your comments are unpatriotic, but as an American you are free to express them as often as you like , however it puts you in the same group that burns American Flags, and I support you as well as other protesters with an automatic monthly donation to the ACLU.
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Post# 972239 , Reply# 29   12/7/2017 at 21:47 (2,303 days old) by Repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)   |   | |
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Questioning government regulations = Unpatriotic = Flag Burning ??? And it's all stated as though it's fact ! And to think I originally clicked on this thread to learn about new Speed Queen models. |
Post# 972246 , Reply# 30   12/7/2017 at 22:08 (2,303 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 972260 , Reply# 32   12/7/2017 at 23:15 (2,303 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I wonder what the new speed queens will sound like. I can't wait to see the operation. What are the controls from left to right? |
Post# 972270 , Reply# 33   12/7/2017 at 23:57 (2,303 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Actually there are 535 nimrods. Alabama is on the verge of replacing one of the biggest, most mendacious ones with a super-sized one.
We're all SOL until corporate entities and their shadow groups are forbidden from contributing to any of them individually or to their campaigns -- and there's a push to co-mingle church and state in that regard now too. If you want to restore the integrity and effectiveness of both houses of congress, you'll have to get behind campaign finance reform or nothing will change.
OK, now back to the gnashing of teeth over a so/so performing (JMO) line of TL washers. It is safe to say they're better at their jobs than our elected representatives, though.
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Post# 972332 , Reply# 37   12/8/2017 at 09:29 (2,302 days old) by jcturbot (Central MA)   |   | |
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Wow...this went off-topic quickly... Anyone out there got any praise/dislikes of their AFNE9BSP113TW01 Washers? Still happy with their performance? Ideas Speed Queen should incorporate into their new Front Load models? Jeff |
Post# 972341 , Reply# 38   12/8/2017 at 09:44 (2,302 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 972344 , Reply# 39   12/8/2017 at 10:16 (2,302 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 972352 , Reply# 40   12/8/2017 at 10:51 (2,302 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 972366 , Reply# 41   12/8/2017 at 11:49 (2,302 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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No heater, but they did say however that the hot water is not dumbed down, when you select hot you get whatever temp your water heater is set at. |
Post# 972367 , Reply# 42   12/8/2017 at 12:26 (2,302 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 972368 , Reply# 43   12/8/2017 at 12:28 (2,302 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 973103 , Reply# 46   12/11/2017 at 21:35 (2,299 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 973117 , Reply# 48   12/11/2017 at 22:56 (2,299 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I have to admit I have mixed feelings about SQ's decision to stop selling home FL washers.
For me, here are my thoughts, which--as usual--have as about much depth as dried out mud puddle:
Thought #1: it's not terribly relevant, since the last time I bought a new washer was never.
Thought #2: But if I did buy new, buying something that could last a long time would be tempting.
Thought #3: But while I value durability, I'd really, really like a heater based on what i hear with other's experiences.
Past my laundry room, I also wonder about the wisdom of abandoning FL machines given the argument--which makes sense to me--that the long term home washer winner will be FL designs, and TL machines will sooner or later fade away.
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Post# 973127 , Reply# 50   12/11/2017 at 23:45 (2,299 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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when they do come back it'll be with a new FL to reflect our national obesity.
Larger machines also appeal, I think, to laziness of modern Americans--get the drudgery of laundry done in one load!!! Or there is the selling point of being able to wash anything no matter how big at home.
I've said this before, but large capacity is not of much interest to me. It might--only might--be of interest for doing bulky comforters and the like. But for daily laundry needs, large capacity is of zero interest. I tend to aggressively sort loads, I live alone, and I'm not interested in having a wardrobe larger than the entire Men's Ready Made Department at Grace Brothers. |
Post# 973131 , Reply# 51   12/11/2017 at 23:57 (2,299 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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Amen! I'd say at least half of my loads are medium or small. Because I sort, and I also live alone. |
Post# 973202 , Reply# 53   12/12/2017 at 09:46 (2,298 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Post# 973219 , Reply# 54   12/12/2017 at 11:25 (2,298 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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We really do not know yet, we just got the literature today for the new restyled FL machines and they are making all models in RH and now the odd LH hinged models in 2018.
I can see that they can't be making much money on the FL models, when you consider that you can buy a 50 year washer for only $1500 this would easily make these great washers the cheapest to own AWs ever available for use in the home. I also predict that SQ may start to push the FL machines in a year or so when they see how much the new TL washers fall in sales. In any event anybody that wants a great price on a new SQ washer, either FL or TL I would buy it in the next 2 weeks. John L. |
Post# 973225 , Reply# 55   12/12/2017 at 12:33 (2,298 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Or...if the redesigned top-loader doesn't fare well in the marketplace, will Alliance decide the residential line is more bother than it's worth and begin producing only commercial machines?
Speed Queen's residential line has disappeared before. Oh, well. My speculation leads nowhere. What will be will be. |
Post# 973226 , Reply# 56   12/12/2017 at 12:38 (2,298 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 973323 , Reply# 58   12/12/2017 at 21:22 (2,298 days old) by jcturbot (Central MA)   |   | |
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combo52, Can you post a pic of the new 2018 restyled SQ FL machines? I want to see what the new control panel looks like. Liking the left side hinge as well. Jeff |
Post# 973579 , Reply# 59   12/14/2017 at 05:25 (2,296 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"Hello, Thank you for your question. In 2018, there will be stricter government regulations we need to comply with for one cycle on the machine. There will be some modifications to our current top load washers beginning with January 2018 production. What will not change is that our design specifications remain at 10,400 cycles giving you a long life, a high degree of reliability backed by a strong warranty, and great Washability. For most cycles, you still get a full tub of water for wash and rinse and the temperature you select for washing is still hot or warm or cold and not blended."
www.speedqueen.com/produc... What a lot of palaver. A reasonable query was made and the response answers nothing clearly. One would think a company like Alliance Laundry would at least have one person issuing talking points on this matter. Rather it seems every other customer service person or otherwise connected with that company has their own response. Might as well stop at front gate and ask the security guard or perhaps one of the secretaries at this point. |
Post# 973582 , Reply# 60   12/14/2017 at 05:45 (2,296 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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they're not impressed by Hyacinth! The only person I ever heard use the word "palaver" was Fraser on Dad's Army... |
Post# 973590 , Reply# 61   12/14/2017 at 07:19 (2,296 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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From our sources they will continue to build and sell them, there could be limited supply at times, but we have had this problem before.
SQ makes much more selling the commercial version of these great washers [ SQ FL washers are truly the most heavy-duty trouble-free automatic washers EVER sold for home use ] so there have been times when we have had to wait to have orders filled.
2017 SQ FL washers already meet the 2018 energy standards.
To Replay # 57, Hi Edward and as usual thanks for your input. These SQ soft mount washers are certainly not as durable as the hard mound models from SQ that cost twice as much. But I would like to see an example of any soft mount FL washer ever built that was better built than these SQ FLers.
When we started selling SQ washers and dryers around ten years ago the SQ reps told us in training that the FL platform and the dryers were tested for around 25,000 loads and the TL washers around 10,500. I know they are now advertising that all their laundry appliances are expected to last around 10,400 loads which really does not make sense. As anyone in the business as long as me knows a top load washer simply will not last as long as a good dryer, and when you look at how the SQ FL washer is built it is easy to see that it should last much longer.
We have over a dozen examples of SQ FL washers that have lasted over 25,000 loads and several that have lasted 35,000 and 45,000 loads in hotel, animal hospitals, health clubs etc, after 5-8 years of 20+ loads per-day we usually sell them a new machine and in EVERY case we refurbished the old washer and have sold it for in home consumer use.
When the Jefferson Hotel near the White House was remolded about a dozen years ago the architect put in one pair of the SS SQs, after around 45,000 loads we replaced these with a pair of SQ FL stack machines, we fixed up the SS pair and sold them to a couple we know around four years ago and they have had no problems at all, this washer is on its orignal main bearings etc.
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Post# 973675 , Reply# 62   12/14/2017 at 17:21 (2,296 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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SQ washing machines have mainly been a commercial washing machine in domestic clothing.
Short cycles with limited choices, vibration issues, and other complaints can be directly traced to putting basically a "laundromat" washer in homes. What you got in exchange for those complaints was a washing machine that could (and likely would) out live anything else on market. It is worth nothing both Miele and Bosch stopped production of their large washers, and they didn't have the true capacity of a SQ. Whirlpool seems to have managed a blend between capacity, cycles and durability, but a Duet ain't no SQ. As noted elsewhere in this forum SQ home washers simply lack many of the features you can find on any cheaper Asian import (such as Samsung) of equal capacity. Things like built in heater and a bewildering/vast array of cycles and options. Am not saying this is better, but there you are.... Have said this before the SQ washers at my local are only good for laundry that isn't heavily soiled/stained. Marks that my Miele or AEG easily remove still remain (or traces) after a trip through those SQ washers. SQ washers at my local complete a "heavy" wash in 30mins. Both the AEG and Miele take about an hour (or more), must to complete wash cycle alone. |
Post# 973679 , Reply# 64   12/14/2017 at 17:39 (2,296 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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That modern SQ laundromat washers offer a large selection of programming modifications. Our local has none of that (the pre-wash is about two minutes), so again YMMV.
Still one of the reasons never could pull oneself to buy a SQ domestic washer was the historical short cycles and limited options. Coming from a Miele there just wasn't any comparison. Don't know what they are up to now, but IIRC early SQ front loaders had a wash cycle of about ten minutes or so. That is just too short IMHO for anything but lightly soiled wash with no marks. That or unless you intend to use chlorine bleach and or other aggressive chemicals. |
Post# 973690 , Reply# 66   12/14/2017 at 18:59 (2,296 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Have a plenty long wash, NO VIBRATION issues, and you can select up to five rinses.
Furthermore they are the ONLY FL washers I know of for home use where the main control board has dip switch settings on it that allow the water level to be increased up to an inch and 1/2 in 1/2" increments and fill with all hot water if selected.
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Post# 973705 , Reply# 68   12/14/2017 at 21:38 (2,296 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Nathan, that's good information, I knew that Mieles could be reprogrammed also and the heater element is a good feature.
I would probably still buy a SQ FL washer over the Miele for its larger capacity, better durability and much easier to service design, to say nothing of a lower price and 5 year full warranty. |
Post# 973707 , Reply# 69   12/14/2017 at 22:42 (2,296 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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Hmm, I'd love a FL that uses water. More reason for me to get a SQ FLer! Having it do full hot is also a requirement of mine. |
Post# 973728 , Reply# 70   12/15/2017 at 05:32 (2,295 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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to own one of those oval-window Westinghouse machines. They really used water and are such fun to watch! |
Post# 973864 , Reply# 71   12/15/2017 at 18:31 (2,295 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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Commercial Laundry is a shrinking market. As new apartments go up they are opting for in-unit laundry vs Laundry rooms. That also means reduction in laundromats. |
Post# 973909 , Reply# 73   12/16/2017 at 00:01 (2,295 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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When I was in Taiwan, the hotel I stayed at had SQ machines. Flew halfway around the world only to do laundry in the same machine I use at home, built only two states away from me. |
Post# 974709 , Reply# 74   12/20/2017 at 06:21 (2,290 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Much would depend upon many factors including what you are defining as "commercial laundries".
Yes, in many areas of the country laundromats are closing. But that often has much to do with rising fixed costs (rents, wages, utilities, taxes, etc...)versus demand/customer base. Here in NYC nearly all laundromats do drop-off and that sector of business is growing. A good laundromat owner with business smarts can make his (or her) money on a good pick-up and delivery scheme. Even here in NYC with all these new apartments either installing en suite washers and dryers, and or new laundry areas, many still prefer the old ways; to send things out. www.dexter.com/support/knowledge-... Happily we live in the Internet/App world which is revolutionizing even pick-up and delivery. www.timeout.com/newyork/s... www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-... What is true about these app services is they aren't much different than how many corner laundries in NYC and other urban areas have operated for decades. That is work is contracted out to a wholesale laundry. This can be anyone from a large enterprise to a laundromat. On the large industrial commercial end what you are mostly seeing is consolidation as larger laundries grow more so and or push smaller ones out of business. Advances in tunnel/batch and automated laundry equipment has revolutionized the business. Hotels, motels, hospitals, restaurants, gyms, the lot all still produce tons of laundry per day, and many no longer have in house laundries. So it has to go somewhere. |
Post# 974838 , Reply# 76   12/21/2017 at 06:00 (2,289 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 974840 , Reply# 77   12/21/2017 at 06:20 (2,289 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Would look closely into doing service wash for residential and or commercial customers. Will largely agree self service alone laundromats are dying for reasons previously mentioned.
The attendant at our local says the self service portion is not a large source of money for owner. However the service washing (drop off and either collect or delivery) is where he makes his money. |
Post# 974844 , Reply# 78   12/21/2017 at 07:24 (2,289 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 974972 , Reply# 80   12/22/2017 at 06:54 (2,288 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 974976 , Reply# 81   12/22/2017 at 07:30 (2,288 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Our distributor said they are going to keep ordering them and stock them for dealers in our area.
I predict that SQ might rethink pushing the FL washers when they see the big sales hit they will see with the new TL line. I have just completed a lot of last minute sales of the current top load washers, after the new ones come out we will be selling a lot of the 5 year warranted MT TL washers in 2018.
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Post# 975099 , Reply# 83   12/23/2017 at 07:06 (2,287 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 975100 , Reply# 84   12/23/2017 at 07:20 (2,287 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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SPIFF. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiff... |
Post# 975384 , Reply# 85   12/24/2017 at 23:19 (2,286 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver)   |   | |
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Post# 975403 , Reply# 86   12/25/2017 at 05:41 (2,285 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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I miss the warm rinse because in the winter up here in the northeast the water is toooo cooooooold. |
Post# 975412 , Reply# 87   12/25/2017 at 06:55 (2,285 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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That's an excellent point Paul. Near freezing water is too cold to rinse effectively. |
Post# 975590 , Reply# 88   12/26/2017 at 13:22 (2,284 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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or lack thereof is the reason I didn't buy a SQ FL in 2009.
I looked at them and they had one model, a rear control machine, that had an internal heater. When I went back to order, it was No Longer Available. This is the reason I chose a Maytag/Whirlpool machine. I know I won't get 50 years of usage out of it, but I have a Sanitize cycle and Steam options. |
Post# 975596 , Reply# 89   12/26/2017 at 14:10 (2,284 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 976447 , Reply# 91   1/1/2018 at 13:03 (2,278 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Is that how washer and dishwasher energy regulations it work in the USA? |
Post# 976651 , Reply# 92   1/2/2018 at 22:01 (2,277 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Post# 976668 , Reply# 93   1/2/2018 at 23:37 (2,277 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Definite improvement over our SQ FL machine whose control panel is of the earlier knobs version. Nevertheless I see the extra rinse switch and start button remain, ugh! On a machine like this give me something metal with a satisfying "click" or substantive feel. Those above on the new style black panel machine, like mine, are chinsy plastic that seems ready to fail at any moment. Not saying they will, it's that they feel that way. All to save a matter of pennies...I shack my head at such false economy cost cutting.
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Post# 976697 , Reply# 94   1/3/2018 at 07:43 (2,276 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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What a terrible idea to use a real switch instead of a flashy membrane touch pad that will crack, stick, short or otherwise fail is less than ten years and you will have to replace the entire panel at a cost of over $150 [ which will be NLA in less than 15 years ] instead of snapping in a new $11 switch.
Most everyone here keeps saying bring back a well built repairable machine and when they do people still complain, LOL
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Post# 976704 , Reply# 95   1/3/2018 at 08:08 (2,276 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 976714 , Reply# 96   1/3/2018 at 09:41 (2,276 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 976721 , Reply# 97   1/3/2018 at 10:26 (2,276 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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"Give me something metal" I wrote, so, wrong again John. Your on quite a roll with being wrong about what I write. Stick with repair advice on old machines, you're good with that. With me you're just embarrassing yourself. This post was last edited 01/03/2018 at 11:05 |
Post# 976724 , Reply# 98   1/3/2018 at 11:37 (2,276 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 976732 , Reply# 99   1/3/2018 at 12:54 (2,276 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Again, despite being an adult, you willfully choose to misrepresent my fairly innocuous statement regarding my personal preference for metal switches rather than the plastic, like a child might. It's a common internet phenomena, so much so it has long been recognized and categorized: The persistent debate troll- This type of troll loves a good argument... They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up. Extrapolating my statement to "entirely metal" is a silly and obvious tactic so you can then "prove you are right". I have watched and let you carry on because you are liked here for your historic knowledge of appliances and often helpful advice on repairs. And who knows, perhaps an all around good fellow when encountered in person. Be that as it may, whether someone prefers cooking with gas or the satisfying snap of a metal toggle switch, it is just that, a preference.
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Post# 976764 , Reply# 100   1/3/2018 at 18:24 (2,276 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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I like metal. As in heavy. |
Post# 977750 , Reply# 101   1/10/2018 at 10:16 (2,269 days old) by jcturbot (Central MA)   |   | |
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Am I missing it or did Speed Queen take down their left-hand hinge Washers model numbers off their page? Jeff |
Post# 977758 , Reply# 102   1/10/2018 at 12:19 (2,269 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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You might want to check with your distributors. Speed queen suspended their front load laundry production. They are not making them at this time, with no eta on when they will resume production. |
Post# 977761 , Reply# 103   1/10/2018 at 13:32 (2,269 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 977763 , Reply# 104   1/10/2018 at 13:48 (2,269 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 977822 , Reply# 105   1/10/2018 at 21:39 (2,269 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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For domestic USA market, if that is indeed going to happen.
Compare a SQ front loader say with the new Miele W1 washers soon to arrive in USA. Capacity is about the same as build quality, but the Miele offers vastly more for the money including water heating ability. Yes, am aware that having a huge range of cycle offerings isn't everything. However to a large segment of the appliance buying public such things do seem to matter. Especially when paying well north of one grand and even close to two thousand for a washing machine. |
Post# 977884 , Reply# 106   1/11/2018 at 10:34 (2,268 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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I haven't looked at this thread in almost a month, but was thinking about it because I was chatting with a friend yesterday about washing machines and he asked about Speed Queen.
I JUST called the 800 number on Speed Queens website and asked if their front load models are being discontinued. She said: "We will be selling the front load models through the first quarter of 2018, after that sales are being discontinued in the US. HOWEVER, we are still building and selling the them world wide so parts and service will still be available if you buy one."
I then asked why and she said because they are not selling enough units (read: not making enough money) on them.
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Post# 977891 , Reply# 107   1/11/2018 at 11:52 (2,268 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 977895 , Reply# 108   1/11/2018 at 12:37 (2,268 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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For $1500 you can buy 2 LG front loaders with waaaaaaay more options, better performance, and the 2 of them will outlast the one speed queen. |
Post# 977897 , Reply# 109   1/11/2018 at 13:33 (2,268 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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SQ has been questioned on their web site as to FL availability into 2018. The posted answer is that freestanding frontloaders are available (in production?) through the end of March and are otherwise discontinued because manufacturing facilities are being modified to accommodate large commercial contracts. Stacked/unitary washer/dryer sets are the only frontload choice offered for home consumers after March. |