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Fisher & Paykel FabricSmart Steam FL
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Post# 976550   1/1/2018 at 23:48 by trappn (Illinois)        

Seems like we have at least two F&P subject matter experts, here.

We're looking for anyone that has experiences with, or opinions of the FabricSmart Steam front loader.

Thanks for your help!

Post# 976561 , Reply# 1   1/2/2018 at 05:23 by appnut (TX)        

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I believe the two experts are only involved with top loaders.  I'm curious about these two new front loaders also.  I don't think F&P actually produces these though. 

Post# 976563 , Reply# 2   1/2/2018 at 05:33 by trappn (Illinois)        

Good to know.

These are intriguing machines. Would like to know more, too.

Post# 976568 , Reply# 3   1/2/2018 at 06:20 by henene4 (Germany)        

Haier aquired F&P.

As they had no own FL platform or dryer platform, Haier just used that chance to make more money out of the F&P brand.
The TL redesign happend around the same time, which I suppose was made so that Haier could produce the contols on their production lines. Haier controls are pretty decent, and luckily, they did not touch the TL wash system (much).
F&P and Haier were cooperating on their direct drive (only true Smart Drive) designs for years already AFAIK.

The FL is a platform sold around the earth, literally, and is a pretty decent performer, while generally durability is questionabel.

One great thing is the flexibility, speed and performance of the cycles. Every cycle has its right to exist (no copy-paste cycles here), and most of them are verry usable.
Plenty of options avaible on plenty of cycles.
Quick cycle times (most anything can be done in a hour) and the Vortex wash does a pretty decent job at what this washer needs.
Good extraction and (for a 24" machine) decently sized drum.

The main culprit however is that the tub is a direct clone from most other standard depth Haier machines and these are known to have bearing issues pretty early and pretty frequently.
I don't think the tub is actually welded together, but parts are beyond expensive and Haiers service is VERRY BAD.

There are several videos up; I can high recomand Daean's washer video channel (see link).

The dryers are verry "meh": The vented and condenser versions run way to hot, and the heatpum versions are slow AF.


Post# 976569 , Reply# 4   1/2/2018 at 06:48 by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Yeah I don't know much about their FL's...but there are a few videos on YT showing their operation.

Their "normal" dryers seems quite nice. They are made by GE, and were even before Haier acquired GE appliances.

Post# 976627 , Reply# 5   1/2/2018 at 19:11 by trappn (Illinois)        

Thanks, everyone, for the insight.

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