Thread Number: 73943
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I need a new washing machine- Please Help |
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Post# 976911 , Reply# 1   1/4/2018 at 21:33 (2,274 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Despite my username, I say throw the 2018 SQ, instead get the Maytag Commercial model MVWP575GW, it will actually clean far better than a Cabrio or the new Speed Queen.
If you don't care about buying used, I recommend looking at your local used appliance stores or on Craigslist and finding either an older top of the line Whirlpool or Kenmore direct-drive based washer. They are fine washers, are reliable and if anything breaks they are one of the most serviceable machines ever made. And if it really falls apart you have only lost <$200. You could also look at older Maytag Dependable Care models, too. |
Post# 976914 , Reply# 2   1/4/2018 at 21:58 (2,274 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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The only type of machine that will effectively wash a king comforter is a front loader. I like the new lg fl, I own the wm3770 and it does well with my king bedding. No top loader will wash a king comforter well. Nothing. |
Post# 976915 , Reply# 3   1/4/2018 at 22:00 (2,274 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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You would have to go with a front loader to wash a king size comforter, and since it seems you've done a good amount of research, you know front loaders have much longer cycles than traditional top loaders.
I agree that the commercial Maytag is superior to the 2018 Speed Queen top loader (what isn't?), and it's cheaper too. It seems like a no-brainer to me. |
Post# 976920 , Reply# 4   1/4/2018 at 22:36 (2,274 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Get a LG WM3770 with turbo wash, or a Maytag Maxima. |
Post# 976927 , Reply# 6   1/5/2018 at 00:06 (2,274 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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LG has generally worked out their issues, so, I could only recomend them. Even if they don't last decades, they don't cost so much that they'd have to. |
Post# 976952 , Reply# 7   1/5/2018 at 08:44 (2,273 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 976967 , Reply# 9   1/5/2018 at 10:51 (2,273 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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don't let them fool you.....
you can return ANY machine you purchased if you don't like its performance.... been there, done that several times.....Sears, Lowes, HomeDepot......hell, I have taken in a screwdriver and opened the machine up right there on the sales floor.... most salesmen know next to nothing of what their selling.....if you don't get satisfaction, call for a department or store manager.....if you don't get anywhere with them, write down their name and ask for the corporate number...... I have king beds, preference to a quilt versus a puffy comforter.....I can't see spending 1500.00+ on a machine to wash one item....I do get puzzled over that one....seems like buying huge tires before I buy the truck they fit on... as mentioned.....any TLer WILL NOT fit and wash a king comforter properly... there is the investment into a SQ Front loader......it will most likely be the last machine you will ever have to buy... we just happen to be a bad time period, with the purchase of just about anything today, its hit or miss on a good quality, long lasting machine.... |
Post# 976969 , Reply# 10   1/5/2018 at 11:07 (2,273 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Go with a well serviced, limited guarantee Maytag or TOL Whirlpool from the days before temperatures and water levels were dumbed down. In other words, a washer which is not EnergyStar. As for the King Size Comforter - I share a bed with at least one dog, one cat (frequently more) and a husband who will steal the covers off and under from a 110lb pit-bull without a moments hesitation. I fully understand the love of a King Size anything for the bed. But - that should not be the decisive element in buying a washer. But a duvet cover or make one for it and then you can wash the cover every week or more often. The comforter wasn't meant to be washed all that often anyway, this will extend it's life. When it does have to be washed, a commercial laundry specializing in such bedding will do a much better job and be easier on it than any washer practical for home use. That's how I do it in the most empty state in the Union - Wyoming. |
Post# 976976 , Reply# 11   1/5/2018 at 11:47 (2,273 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 976983 , Reply# 13   1/5/2018 at 13:25 (2,273 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)   |   | |
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I just took some measurements, I don't have the room for FL door clearance. I'd have to gut the laundry room and move counters and water hook ups. |
Post# 976987 , Reply# 14   1/5/2018 at 14:00 (2,273 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I had the same problem when we moved. We included our Whirlpool Duet pair in the sale of our previous home because the laundry room where we live now wouldn't accommodate anything larger than traditional standard size machines.
At that time (2008) the full sized Frigidaire Affinity front load washer and companion dryer had the same footprint as standard machines, so that's what we got. There are some things about the washer that annoy me, but it's been nine years and all I've had to replace is the pump, just about a month ago, and like all front loaders, it's superior at cleaning when compared to a top loader. At 3.5 cf capacity, all of which is usable, it can handle everything I put in it. That includes a puffy king size mattress pad, but I usually add extra water for that (I have a pull-out faucet on the adjacent laundry sink that facilitates this). Whether the Frigidaire front loaders still have that same footprint, I don't know, but it's worth investigating.
I think a duvet/comforter cover is the answer for you. Just wash that instead of the comforter itself. This will afford you a wider range of choices for your next machine.
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Post# 976988 , Reply# 15   1/5/2018 at 14:00 (2,273 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I had a 2010 Cabrio that I was very unhappy with too. And I’ve had a kingsize down comforter that is almost 35 years old now and I’ve managed to wash it in every washing machine I’ve ever owned. Some did a better job than others, but never the less I have always been able to wash this comforter and other king size bedding with no problem. Yes, in a TL there isn’t alot of turn over, but then just how dirty is a comforter really getting anyway, unless you have someone that is having number two accidents on the comforter just about any washer that is large enough to hold the comforter and get it thouroughly saturated, rinsed and spun out will do an adequete job. Also, as mentioned by Panthera, use a duvet cover, and you will almost never have to actually launder the comforter.
I also have the same limitaitons as you regarding the depth of my laundry closet, the only FL that will fit in my closet is either an LG or a SQ. I tried the LG, didn’t like it. In Dec. 2016 I bought a Maytag Centennial MVWC415EW from Lowes. The capacity is 3.6 cu ft. and this washer has been completely trouble free. It washes anything I put in it flawlessly, never unbalances is fairly quick, most all loads I wash with hot water on heavy soil level and they are done in 50-55 mins. And our kingsize comforter and bedspreads are no problem, I wash them on the Bulky cycle and they come out beautifully. So, I think that you would probably very happy with the new Maytag Commercial machine that has received extensive coverage here on AW. And the hot water is really hot, not lukewarm. And like Martin said, if you are really unhappy with any new appliance, any store will take it back in exchange as long as you don’t wait too long. Salesman will tell you otherwise, but when push comes to shove most stores would rather have a satisfied customer, that will return to THEIR store for future appliance purchases. If they refuse to take back a purchase that the customer is dissatisfied with, its pretty much a foregone conclusion that this dissatisfied customer will make their next large purchase elsewhere and they know it. The key is to be reasonable and polite, these two attributes will go along way getting you what you want. So good luck to you with your new washer purchase. Eddie This post was last edited 01/05/2018 at 14:20 |
Post# 976994 , Reply# 17   1/5/2018 at 15:09 (2,273 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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oddly enough, most washing instructions for a comforter are gentle wash and soak....basically its what these machines do.....although not exactly recommended to wash one in these machines....
going by your information, guessing you have a Regular size Cabrio(belt drive), as there is also a Cabrio XL(direct drive) version as well... but going by the age of your machine, does it not have the Deep Water Wash feature? I have both...2010 models...first rule, the NORMAL cycle uses the least amount of water on either machine....best for about all mini loads only.... on the Regular version, found two ways of making it function better......before the load starts, take a gallon of water and saturate the clothing, the machine thinks it weighs more, and of course adds more water( mixing your detergent into this water has an added benefit of presoaking the clothes before the washing starts)......or I wait until the filling stops, and pour in 3 to 5 gallons more water with a bucket.... on the XL version, Normal for mini loads, Towel/Colors for medium loads, and Sheets for a large loads..... one feature the XL offers is a waterfall sprinkler to saturate the load as well during wash and rinse... removing the restrictor in the water valve allowed for a faster water flow and fill...mainly just the HOT side, as it allowed a warmer temp....but basically all I ever did get was a 10 degree drop in water temp, but my water heater is set at 160....10 degrees is not much of a drop.... thanks goes out to our own JoeyPete for the vid....but this is his machine, which he made a video almost 3 years ago....on the Deep Wash cycle....plenty of water has been added..... |
Post# 977017 , Reply# 20   1/5/2018 at 18:08 (2,273 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 977034 , Reply# 22   1/5/2018 at 19:52 (2,273 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 977056 , Reply# 24   1/5/2018 at 22:06 (2,273 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 977060 , Reply# 25   1/5/2018 at 22:19 (2,273 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Any cleaners in the area to have the king comforter washed and pressed? |
Post# 977130 , Reply# 26   1/6/2018 at 10:46 (2,272 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)   |   | |
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There is a local dry-cleaner. I just called them and they said $36.99 to wash a King Comforter, and then she mentioned it takes 1 to 2-weeks to clean it. That seems weird, I didn't ask why it takes that long. |
Post# 977136 , Reply# 28   1/6/2018 at 11:30 (2,272 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 977160 , Reply# 29   1/6/2018 at 15:04 (2,272 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Maybe because it might occupy all of the dry cleaning machine and they have to take have a chance to not have to dry clean anything else. I say go with the duvet cover you can wash frequently. I guess you don't have space for 2 washers, the Maytag and a front loader? Another thing you might do is wash an empty load at the laundromat to clean out the machine and then wash the comforter but who wants to spend time in the ghetto laundromat?
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Post# 977191 , Reply# 31   1/6/2018 at 19:12 (2,272 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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washyume: I don't even really like having 2 machines taking up space, I wish the engineers would hurry up and figure out how to make a washer and dryer all-in-one machine.That was done in the 1950s. All the major manufacturers had them in the 1950s and 1960s, and a couple went into the early 1970s. There are a couple washer/dryer combination machines on the market now but they're of limited capacity. |
Post# 977650 , Reply# 32   1/9/2018 at 14:55 (2,269 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)   |   | |
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Miele is the only sensible option now. Decent capacity, solid quality, excellent long-term durability. Forget top loaders of any description. |
Post# 977747 , Reply# 33   1/10/2018 at 09:35 (2,268 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Whilst Miele in Europe is about as good as it gets, North American Miele has suffered from various fatal corporate defects through the years. Worst of all, their decision (in complete contrast to European Miele) to throw away all parts and technical specifications (including repair data) for anything older than 10 years. Second, their 'it will take three months to get the part' approach (and, yes, dahlinks, twice I brought parts over from Germany for fellow members after they were told just that and in both cases I picked the parts up at Miele's Showroom on Sonnenstr. in Munich). Finally, As many UK members all-too-frequently point out here, the UK market is totally and completely removed from both Europe as well as the rest of the world. Toploaders in the UK may be worthless, but elsewhere, this does not hold. |
Post# 977929 , Reply# 35   1/11/2018 at 21:05 (2,267 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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This GE contains an agitator and a 4.5CF capacity. Seems to have good rollover...but again i'm not sure how this thing would perform with a large item. |
Post# 977945 , Reply# 36   1/12/2018 at 00:22 (2,267 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 977951 , Reply# 37   1/12/2018 at 01:15 (2,267 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 977999 , Reply# 38   1/12/2018 at 11:06 (2,266 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 979321 , Reply# 39   1/21/2018 at 12:02 (2,257 days old) by dylanmitchell (Southern California)   |   | |
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Not sure if Bellelo's is near you or would deliver to you.
And a question for those on this thread what is there a commercial residential Maytag front load model? TL is MVWP575GW, Dryer is MGDP575GW/ MEDP575GW but nothing between consumer style FL and MHN33PNCGW/ MHN33PRCWW? www.bellelosonline.com/pr... www.bellelosonline.com/products/... www.bellelosonline.com/products/... CLICK HERE TO GO TO dylanmitchell's LINK |
Post# 979346 , Reply# 40   1/21/2018 at 15:45 (2,257 days old) by SudsySenior (southwest British Columbia)   |   | |
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I have my down king-size duvet washed every few of years by the company that makes them ( Canada, and Dania Down). And it is about CAD 36.00. I have several covers, light cotton and bright colours for summer, heavy for winter, easy to launder.
I actually logged on again to add to my posts from late 2017 but cannot find them anywhere and this maybe useful to the OP. I too have a narrow entrance to the laundry area and really no room in there for a front loader anyhow. The terrific people here led me gently to a Fisher and Paykel 3927, their traditional agitator top loader. and I wanted to come back to say I am in LOVE with this machine. Thank you everyone! And I see above comments about the noise from top-loading machines. This one is quiet, it is quick, it is efficient, it is even pretty. And it came with a promotion of a 5 year warranty. All I wanted was a machine that worked. Now I am so enthusiastic I drag friends in to admire it. Happily sudsing, The Sudsy Senior |
Post# 979358 , Reply# 41   1/21/2018 at 17:30 (2,257 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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SudsySenior--I think your posts last year are probably these:
www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...
You should be able to post to that thread again.
Your posts probably vanished because the index page only shows what has been most recently active. If I recall right, there is only one index page per subforum for regular (non-upgraded) users like you. But everything does get archived.
Glad to hear you are happy with your washer! |
Post# 979359 , Reply# 42   1/21/2018 at 17:50 (2,257 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 979477 , Reply# 43   1/22/2018 at 18:46 (2,256 days old) by SudsySenior (southwest British Columbia)   |   | |
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Thank you Lord Kenmore, for the link. I went through the current page and quite a few archives pages,using both the search box and Control F, with no luck. I have now saved the link.
And thanks, StrickleyboJack, yes, I had been keen to have a Speed Queen but now rather relieved; feel very lucky to have found this site. SS |
Post# 1020606 , Reply# 46   1/8/2019 at 20:29 (1,905 days old) by washer88 (Louisiana)   |   | |
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I'll check out electrolux right now. Is it a good brand in The USA? I ask because earlier in this thread there was some negative talk about Miele in the USA. |
Post# 1020608 , Reply# 47   1/8/2019 at 21:10 (1,905 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 1020694 , Reply# 50   1/9/2019 at 19:52 (1,904 days old) by washer88 (Louisiana)   |   | |
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Holy Moly! LG has an all-in-one washer and dryer. Model # WM3997HWA It's ventless. |
Post# 1020700 , Reply# 51   1/9/2019 at 21:13 (1,904 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)   |   | |
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>> Holy Moly! LG has an all-in-one washer and dryer. Model # WM3997HWA
I think that one was discussed here before. Consider this portion of the review from Consumer Reports before deciding if it meets your needs. ==================================================== Dryer: Scoring Poor overall, this ventless dryer takes around 3 hours to thoroughly dry an 8-pound load of cottons. That means washing and drying a load that size takes over 4 1⁄2 hours. Most dryers we test have moisture sensors, but this one doesn’t. The sensor detects when clothes are dry and shuts off the machine, saving time, energy, and wear and tear on fabrics. This machine is quiet in dryer mode, which is a plus. Note that during drying, most of the condensation is removed via the drain line, but some moisture vents into the room from both the front of the machine and the back panel. The machine's drying capacity is similar to a compact dryer's, which is why the LG manual states that if you're using the machine to dry laundry, cut a full wash load in half for “effective drying.” Put another way, by both LG and Kenmore, the capacity for washing clothes is twice the capacity for drying: “If you wash a full load, you should remove half the clothes before drying,” says Kenmore’s Peters. ==================================================== www.consumerreports.org/l... |
Post# 1020714 , Reply# 52   1/10/2019 at 05:52 (1,903 days old) by washer88 (Louisiana)   |   | |
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Venting humidity in my home is not something a person from Louisiana wants. :/ |