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GE FF wash start sequence
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Post# 978166   1/13/2018 at 16:11 (213 days old) by potatochips (Nova Scotia)        

What causes the GE FF machines to start slow with agitation at first, and then click in to normal speed on a normal cycle?

Is it the solenoid that causes it? Or is it the clutch shoes expanding with centrifugal force over time?

I feel like its the former as I can hear a click, and if it was clutch shoe slippage, I think it would ramp up as opposed to go from low to normal so abruptly?

Post# 978191 , Reply# 1   1/13/2018 at 18:08 (213 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Delayed Hi-Speed Operation On GE FF Washers

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Its The second, the friction in the clutch carrier plate bearing slowly causes the carrier plate to start turning and when it reaches a certain speed the shoes engage and lock out the low speed slipping clutch operation.


If low speed operation is selected the solenoid is energized and it stops the carrier plate from turning at all.


This was an interesting system that made no sense at all, Why GE ever fooled with a silly slipping clutch when they were the largest builder of motors in the world never made any sense.


Customers that used low speed a lot experienced expensive clutch rebuilds ever 5 years or more.


John L.

Post# 978250 , Reply# 2   1/14/2018 at 07:18 (213 days old) by potatochips (Nova Scotia)        

Thanks John.

Ive never understood that either, having the clutch wear away for slow speed operation. If they wanted a clutch bad enough, they could have put a two speed motor in and a single speed clutch like what was on the washers that replaced the FF.

Post# 978292 , Reply# 3   1/14/2018 at 14:03 (212 days old) by Joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        

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I always loved to hear them start slow and then click to fast speed. Maybe was just me.

Post# 978325 , Reply# 4   1/14/2018 at 16:52 (212 days old) by ken (Ulster Hgts, NY)        

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As I remember reading GE did it that way so the motor would always run at full speed so the recirculating pump always ran at full speed.

Post# 978475 , Reply# 5   1/15/2018 at 16:19 (211 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Slow Speed

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I've seen plenty with the shifter broken off or a slow speed that did not work. Very bad design in terms of longevity. Only guess was to keep the pump running on full speed in all parts of the wash and drain. Not sure about FFs, but model T GE washer bragged about pump height- so maybe that might have been it.

Post# 991574 , Reply# 6   4/20/2018 at 19:43 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
filter-flo normal speed

I had a GE filter-flo that did that during normal speed. I liked how it sounded.

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