Thread Number: 74059
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
New SQ Video By Eugene(LorainFurniture) ***Important*** |
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Post# 978376   1/14/2018 at 23:04 (2,287 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Since no one posted this here, yet.
I guess they really are latching down on the negative image they are already getting. Eugene gets blacklisted and their ad with all the public negative comments on their new machines got me a copyright strike as featured in my other thread. So much for customer service... |
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Post# 978379 , Reply# 1   1/14/2018 at 23:43 (2,287 days old) by trappn (Illinois)   |   | |
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Stumbled upon this, too, on YouTube. |
Post# 978386 , Reply# 2   1/15/2018 at 00:48 (2,287 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Sheets in that new SQ washer----WRAP----UNWRAP---REWRAP----and it goes on!Too bad!Was going to have higher hopes for SQ. |
Post# 978395 , Reply# 3   1/15/2018 at 02:40 (2,287 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 978397 , Reply# 4   1/15/2018 at 02:49 (2,287 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I was gonna have high hopes for Speed Queen. No more! |
Post# 978406 , Reply# 5   1/15/2018 at 04:49 (2,286 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 978408 , Reply# 6   1/15/2018 at 05:30 (2,286 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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So they would rather have people ignorant up front, purchase the machine, only to discover how awful it is latter on? Yahhh, no. Thats all I need to know from here on in.
Either that they are deliberately trying to get a reaction out of us in order to discredit us- however it wont matter once the bad customers reviews flood vindicating us. But if you want to know my honest opinion I think it might be simpler than that: Alliance no longer wants anything to do with the residential market. Its not their bread and butter so they have nothing to loose dropping the line altogether. Lastly I know conspiracies are not welcome here, but this just reinforces my belief everything is controlled by a tiny cabal. As someone on the inside once told my 15 years ago "in a decade everyone will be compelled into buying European washing machines" I never believed him, but 15 years latter I am seeing it with my own eyes. |
Post# 978419 , Reply# 7   1/15/2018 at 07:57 (2,286 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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My apologies everyone I forgot there was a public/ private section here. Thank you for posting it here |
Post# 978426 , Reply# 8   1/15/2018 at 08:57 (2,286 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 978432 , Reply# 10   1/15/2018 at 09:44 (2,286 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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When you buy a Kirby or a Health-Mor product, you do get tangible value for your money. Buy a pre-2018 SQ and you got the same. In all cases, overpriced, but the cleaning results were obvious. Now? You spend a fortune and get a piece of trash. This will not end well for them - the sort of people who can afford to spend that sort of money pay attention to these matters. |
Post# 978473 , Reply# 12   1/15/2018 at 16:11 (2,286 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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"the sort of people who can afford to spend that sort of money pay attention to these matters"
I nominate and vote this as post of the year. Said it best- nearly every SQ buyer is an educated, informed person or someone trying to escape the mainstream lidlock/poor cleaning/ect, ect. This washer alienates the very buyers of SQ. |
Post# 978487 , Reply# 16   1/15/2018 at 18:11 (2,286 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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(Sophia from Golden Girls...)
"Picture it... 2018... Speed Queen from the head quarters in Sicily decides to take out the American Market in a sneeze.) Of course just kidding ... but... they don't want to deal with snivilling American domestic customers so they build a machine that most people want nothing to do with except their loyal customers. Fast forward... Lid Lock it so they can't find out what's going on in there... and BANG... they are changing detergents, settings, everything... but the average American consumer will shrug it off and just say it was they're user error. I am 62 years old and figure with the rate new diseases are introduced on a regular basis, Allied will go back to building commercial machines and drop the Domestic "Platform". (Had to put in my Baby Boomer update on what I think is the proper wording but really don't give a crap) So... I won't be around to see the final outcome of this nonsense. I have a Miele 4842, a Maytag H806, a Unimatic which will soon be ready to run (if Greg ever gets here or Jon : ) ) so I'm good until my demise. But all the other wonderful people here I hope this all turns out well. It just bangs the hell out of me the cost of these flimsly machines. As a matter of fact I was at a local watering hole in Barnstable tonight (Imagine that) and we talked about the price of things. In 1972 when I started driving ... fuel was $.37 a gallon. If I need another machine before I go, I will seek out a used something . : ) Or see what coldspot66 has in his stash... And he has some stuff ... LOL |
Post# 978495 , Reply# 18   1/15/2018 at 19:00 (2,286 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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It's like they're firing back at Eugenes videos...with glossed over marketing and speeding through any bits of the machine operation... |
Post# 978497 , Reply# 19   1/15/2018 at 19:16 (2,286 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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Guys feel free to share my videos with anyone you know. Since they want to delete everything on their fb page, just post it on yours! |
Post# 978522 , Reply# 20   1/16/2018 at 01:17 (2,286 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 978530 , Reply# 21   1/16/2018 at 03:38 (2,286 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 978536 , Reply# 23   1/16/2018 at 06:15 (2,285 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Here is the truth that has stopped me from buying SQ dryer: Whirlpool top mount lint filter dryers are simply the best bar none. They are the fastest and gentlest dryers on the market. Not to mention easy to fix and parts are plentiful. I think there are more of them then actual DDs in existence. I considered buying a dryer at the same time when purchasing my washer, but the WP center dial Maytag dryer was to new and much to good of a dryer. In fact if I was a buy a laundry pair at this exact instant it would be a 2017 SQ or SQ FL with a MOL Whirlpool dryer even though style wise they are worlds apart. In fact GE's dryers aren't that bad either in terms of performance and being quiet. SQs dryers never swayed me much unlike their washers.
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Post# 978537 , Reply# 24   1/16/2018 at 06:15 (2,285 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Just noticing-did you see the "made in China" components on the closeup of one of the boards?Guess that's the norm with all circuit boards these days. |
Post# 978539 , Reply# 25   1/16/2018 at 06:19 (2,285 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 978540 , Reply# 26   1/16/2018 at 06:21 (2,285 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 978542 , Reply# 27   1/16/2018 at 06:45 (2,285 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 978570 , Reply# 29   1/16/2018 at 11:52 (2,285 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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Post# 978752 , Reply# 31   1/17/2018 at 19:42 (2,284 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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They will be selling 0 washers! This thing really is pitiful.I will stick to my good old antiques. |
Post# 978761 , Reply# 32   1/17/2018 at 20:08 (2,284 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Post# 980283 , Reply# 34   1/28/2018 at 17:45 (2,273 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 980297 , Reply# 35   1/28/2018 at 18:43 (2,273 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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But I have to disagree... I really don't care what the usage is on this machine. It just plain S--ks.
Watching all of Eugene's Vids, what is there to like ??? Poor turnover, Lame Washing, Wadding sheets... reminds me of a Early Westy Front loader. This would never be in my collection even for shits and giggles. Just Horrible. In my own opinion, there is not even one thing to like. And I understand John being a SQ guy and distributor, but I ( not being in the business) think this line will hurt you. Just on the consumer end. But I love that New Maytag Commercial made by Whirlpool. Speed Queen's new Top Loader will be nothing but a head ache. Nonsense... SQ Small load of Whites. Maytag vid is small load of Whites. Which would you choose ? |
Post# 980301 , Reply# 36   1/28/2018 at 18:58 (2,273 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 980303 , Reply# 37   1/28/2018 at 19:10 (2,273 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I had high hopes for this machine. It did okay with the first load. However, the more videos I saw, the less hopeful I became. They really had something going here. |
Post# 980304 , Reply# 38   1/28/2018 at 19:14 (2,273 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 980309 , Reply# 41   1/28/2018 at 19:26 (2,273 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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You are being very kind to SQ.
I am trying to find another vid to just update my thoughts. But I don't think it will matter at this point. none the less... I am happy you stood up for what you believe in. I am honored to know you. Ah... here it is... Just a wash in the 806 to compare to the SQ, New Tag and the good ol' 806... We're sorry ... we are experiencing a technical difficulty... Please Stand By In the mean time... You gotta spend money to make money and you get what you pay for. (Not so much these days) |
Post# 980325 , Reply# 42   1/28/2018 at 23:56 (2,273 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 980364 , Reply# 43   1/29/2018 at 06:49 (2,272 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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I have very mixed feelings about this machine. Being open minded, I've defended HE top loaders because, well, I've used them and found them to work well when used properly. This one though, I don't know. I completely understand and believe that you don't need to thrash items all of the place to get them clean and this method of agitation probably works fine. BUT, it does seem to work better on smaller loads. I really don't care to spend that much money to try it out either, so I may never know first hand.
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Post# 980369 , Reply# 44   1/29/2018 at 07:22 (2,272 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I was the first one hear on AW to voice concerns about this new design SQ washer and many here dough ted my concerns about this machine.
The company that Jeff and Jason and I founded and run after almost 40 years has consistently been the top rated service and SALES appliance company in consumer and manufacturer surveys in the DC area for over 30 years, we always look out for our customers FIRST making economical repairs and giving good deals on new appliances that are proven to be good values and that we believe in. [We have never sold a Samsung or LG branded appliance for example or even a GE branded laundry appliance ]
I am proud that my buddy Eugene got a hold of this new washer and posted the results for all to see, I think that SQ overreacted to his tests and they will in the end do more harm to their brand by doing so.
I have voiced concerns about this new washer to our sales rep, the distributor, the Service reps and back to SQ in Wisconsin as well, but at this time I am choosing to work within the system to affect change. I have an obligation to the thousands of customers that have purchased SQ appliances in this area to offer service and support and intend to do so.
I am very disappointed in SQs plans to curtail sales of their great FL washers this year, this to me is the bigger story here.
As to all the hype about the so called MT Commercial TL washers, we have sold some of these and will also offer them, BUT this is no where near as good a machine as the WP DD washers in washing performance, without a tub brake it simply does not wash as large a load as the DDs. It is basically a slightly improved VMW top load washer which WP brought out in 2010 and these machines have had all kinds of SERIOUS durability and PERFORMANCE problems and a large percentage of customers HATE them, we replace several every month where customers just can't stand them any longer.
For the washer collectors here on this site that want a traditional top load machine you are better off getting a slightly vintage machine like a 1985-2008 WP built DD washer, there are also other good vintage options depending on how much work you want to do and how much you want to spend.
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Post# 980374 , Reply# 45   1/29/2018 at 08:14 (2,272 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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I read some of the manuals for these new machines and from what I gathered, it seems as though using a higher water level helps this machine clean better. After watching Eugene's video on the work pants, heavy duty was used, but so was auto fill. I think a higher water level would have been better for that load. The pants might have moved around more.
So again with my experience in HE washing, this machine has fallen into the "trap" if you will, that you have to pay more attention to how your washing your items. Meaning cycle selection/water level. One reason I went to a more traditional style of washer with my F&P, is that I was growing tired of constantly tweaking the machine. They give you plenty of options but it seemed as though I had to "baby" the machine to get to work properly. Most consumers are NOT going to do that, hence why so many new washers get bad reviews. |
Post# 980524 , Reply# 46   1/30/2018 at 00:23 (2,272 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 980526 , Reply# 47   1/30/2018 at 00:41 (2,272 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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@Combo: and I was one of the first to trust you even though I could not publicly espouse that because it resulted in your intelligence being questioned by a select few members.
Tub breaks: You know, this kills me. It just does. Because the design that they took it from had a tub break or rather a clutch drum band. I see no reason why this could not have been carried over. "It wont work on a full sized washer" the critics will quip. BS! Well guess what, it does: I don't understand why America always gets inferior products that same tuff being sold in Mexico, Canada, and Australia have significant improvements. |
Post# 980528 , Reply# 48   1/30/2018 at 00:43 (2,272 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 980529 , Reply# 49   1/30/2018 at 01:04 (2,272 days old) by Losangeles (Muscle Shoals, AL 35661)   |   | |
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What is the long version of DDAs? As for the 2018 Speed Queen TL as posted in Eugenes vid, you could not give me one of those machines. I may be old fashioned, but I want control of the speed of agitation/spin, Water temp, and water level. I do not need a computer telling me how to do laundry! Thanks for letting me share. Tommy |
Post# 980530 , Reply# 50   1/30/2018 at 01:44 (2,272 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 980535 , Reply# 51   1/30/2018 at 02:25 (2,272 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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ChetLaham: Dual Action AgitatorWhich brings up the question of why do I keep seeing so many videos of machines with DAAs (that includes all brands that have them) running underloaded? |
Post# 980538 , Reply# 52   1/30/2018 at 02:45 (2,272 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 980610 , Reply# 54   1/30/2018 at 15:31 (2,271 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 980688 , Reply# 56   1/31/2018 at 06:37 (2,270 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 980752 , Reply# 57   1/31/2018 at 14:08 (2,270 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 980800 , Reply# 58   1/31/2018 at 22:36 (2,270 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Ok I'll ask: how do you know that? There are no shortage of complaints, even this site has them:
www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... |
Post# 980875 , Reply# 59   2/1/2018 at 16:37 (2,269 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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If modern FL washers are so awful, why is it that many people (and most all Europeans) are happy with them?
Try to drive a manual transmission car the same way you'd operate an Automatic sometime and see how that goes Then go on the Internet and complain how bad manual transmissions are. Most of the reason that modern frontloaders are not liked is because people are unwilling to learn, adjust and adapt to something new. People today are real quick to find fault with everything other then themselves. |
Post# 980881 , Reply# 60   2/1/2018 at 17:31 (2,269 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Because if every modern washing machine sold in the last 5 years were faulty, and not acting like a "washing machine" there would be outright revolt in the streets and in media.
I know there's lots of negative complaints online, but there are also slews of positive reviews online as well, with modern machines. So which is it? A sales rep from WP told me a few years ago in Home Depot that their complaints/repairs hover around 18% for Maytag and WP, and about 15% or KA. Yeah, that's a lot of people when you sell millions of machines a year. But it's not ALLLLLLL of them like so many here keep saying. If ALL modern machines were terrible, then WP, GE, Elux, even LG and Samsung would be taking returns and losing millions of dollars a year. But they are not. I'm a WP stockholder, and their stock has been struggling. But it's struggling because of high raw material costs mainly. Their inventory numbers and warranty claims are not high enough culprits to be reported on in the quarterly meetings. In fact, their sales are doing pretty well. Now if folks on here want to claim to their heart's content that they dislike modern machines, they hate them, they think their styling sucks, their durability is not the same, their washing characteristics are "not what you believe in." Sure, all valid opinions. But it's just not fact, with tested evidence, that ALL modern machines are not capable of washing clothes. Reviewed.com, Cnet, Consumer Reports all conduct soil tests and fabric damage tests on all these modern machines. And to varying degrees, all of them get stains out, to a satisfactory percentage. Some more than others. But never 0% stain removal. Not any better or worse than machines from 20 years ago. When you have modern TL or FL machines removing 50% of blood, or 60% of wine or 40% of grass stains, on the Normal cycle, like this test here: www.cnet.com/products/ele... It means the machine is working to pretty satisfactory degree. I'll just add some anecdotal evidence from personal experience. My parents have had a 1982 Maytag washer all the way up till this past thanksgiving. It gave up the ghost. They replaced it with a modern TL Maytag 765. It washes all their clothes as well as, or better, than the old Maytag. I have a Maxima FL from 2015. It washes just as well, often better, than my parents' old Maytag. It also washes as well, or better, and GENTLER than every old TL GE or WP DD machine I've had in every apartment I've lived in. And the coin op Speed Queens I've been saddled to use? Pfffff, don't hold a candle to my Maxima. My aunts' have had a Neptune set, and now a modern LG set, and both were stellar washing performers. Will any of these modern machines last 15 years, 20? 30? Not a chance. But as long as they are working from the factory as designed, they are all very good "washing" machines. No matter how much that fact pisses off the nostalgics. |
Post# 980938 , Reply# 61   2/2/2018 at 06:57 (2,268 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi John, I agree with everything you wrote, except where you say there is no chance that these modern washers do not have a chance of lasting 15,20, or 30 years.
Having been in the appliance sales and service business for over 40 years I can only observe that new machines require far less repair and have far better materials and assembly quality control.
Then you factor in smaller families and many people having multiple homes and MILLIONS more washers, DWs Refrigerators and ranges out there you are going to see plenty of 30 YO appliances in the future that are working just fine and they will eventually be replaced because they are old not worn out.
This is what we are seeing already, almost 1/2 of the appliances we see on several of the larger dealers recycle piles every week still work just fine or have very minor easily fixed problems.
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Post# 980971 , Reply# 62   2/2/2018 at 10:48 (2,268 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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From what I see the two biggest drivers in appliance longevity are:
1. People are reluctant to attempt repair. A 4 year old machine has a failure and the attitude is "it's old, time for a new one". The other foolish idea is that if one failure happens another is just around the corner so junk it. I had a friends father trash an immaculate high end 6 year old Lennox furnace because of a $800 installed inducer fan failure. The new furnace was almost $7000 installed. People and irrational fears are silly... 2. Many companies, especially Asian, discontinue service parts after an unreasonably short period of time. Makes service difficult if you can't gets parts. Frequent design change also wreaks part availability longevity, especially since Asian companies seem to need to design new parts for each product rather then using a similar part from prior designs. Modern manufacturing ease has kinda destroyed the old parts bin mentality. |
Post# 980980 , Reply# 64   2/2/2018 at 12:06 (2,268 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Very few washers today sell for $300... In almost all cases on a fairly recent machine it is worth calling service for an estimate.
I'm funny, I would pay $200 to repair a $300 machine, because I am a repair always guy. I can't scrap something viable if it can be repaired. Of course since I generally fix anything that I own myself, it is usually darned inexpensive for me. And yet another reason why I would NEVER buy an extended warranty on anything I buy ever. |
Post# 980982 , Reply# 65   2/2/2018 at 12:15 (2,268 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I don't know of any washer you can actually buy and have delivered for this price and the average price of a delivered machine is well over $700 with some few models costing over twice that.
Our average completed repair call on a washing machine was $183 last year and it is much easier for a customer to pick up the phone or Email us the details of a broken washer than to try to get a new machine delivered. |
Post# 980984 , Reply# 66   2/2/2018 at 12:24 (2,268 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Interesting John L.
I'll take your word for it, since you're definitely in the field; in peoples' homes. I'm not. In regards to people tossing out machines that need "minor repairs" I tend to agree. Heck, we did that with our 1982 Maytag. It just needed new belts and a good scrubbing of the pulleys. But.....it was at the stage of really needing a deep cleaning, corrosion control and all new hoses. To the point where my parents were nervous another more major breakdown was around the corner. I imagine a lot of the modern machines you repair....or end up replacing, are just like that, albeit younger. And less extreme. People are just more likely to replace their machine than go through $200 repair, and fear another break down is nigh. (All numbers are for conversation-sake) Being an engineer and data nerd, I'd love to see comparative data on warranty repairs and initial quality scores on machines from the 70s and 80s, compared to today......and I wonder what the comparisons would be. |
Post# 980986 , Reply# 67   2/2/2018 at 12:30 (2,268 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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There are machines on sale for 300 dollars, or even less, on a fairly regular basis.
Really, they are. They're kind of undesirable, but I guess that's their point. www.menards.com/main/appliances/... ^ On sale, $299 till 2-7. During the recent Black Friday sales, there were a couple Amana and GE top loaders on sale for $250-$350 as well. Right now there are now strong sales, so it looks like the average lowest price is hovering around $400. |
Post# 980996 , Reply# 68   2/2/2018 at 13:08 (2,268 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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I sold the very cleaned up 35 year old DD machine to a woman whose old AmanaTag bit the dust. $245 delivered, with hook up and haul away included. She needed the machine for a limited time only because they were planning on selling the house, but she needed it RIGHT NOW. My ad was only a few hours old. I see used dealers who charge that and far more for the machines they must get pretty much for free. With the overhead of a showroom, truck and driver, back office personel, store personel, and repair guy i imagine they not becoming too rich. Although sometimes they make a bundle on “payment plans” that rape the unsophisicated consumer. This post was last edited 02/02/2018 at 17:50 |
Post# 981030 , Reply# 70   2/2/2018 at 16:54 (2,268 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 981045 , Reply# 71   2/2/2018 at 19:36 (2,268 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 981048 , Reply# 72   2/2/2018 at 20:10 (2,268 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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Euro washers are definitely smaller |
Post# 981058 , Reply# 73   2/2/2018 at 21:43 (2,268 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 981079 , Reply# 74   2/3/2018 at 03:19 (2,268 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 981088 , Reply# 75   2/3/2018 at 07:13 (2,267 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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You can do a 'profile wash' (water begins warm; gradually heats during a very long wash tumble) with US machines that have an internal heater and a Sanitize cycle. Did it all the time with my 2010 Frigidaire and 2015 Maytag Maxima. Although...it is my understanding that some current washers don't heat to 145-150 for their sanitize cycle.
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Post# 985921 , Reply# 77   3/9/2018 at 09:27 (2,233 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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Spoiler alert. I just retested the machines again using 20 hand towels thus making it a proper full load. My results were consistent Edit: I assume you were referring to my ketchup test video? |
Post# 985924 , Reply# 78   3/9/2018 at 09:42 (2,233 days old) by john76 (USA)   |   | |
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I was referring to the videos in Reply #35 in this thread. The water level on the SQ was much lower than the MT, likely not ideal for the 2018 model. |
Post# 986413 , Reply# 79   3/13/2018 at 11:57 (2,229 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)   |   | |
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