Thread Number: 74112
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Post# 978912   1/18/2018 at 22:44 (2,261 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Here's the new press release for their new washer. I'm not holding my breath that this will be a great washer after what I saw. Here goes nothing. Good luck. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK |
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Post# 978915 , Reply# 1   1/18/2018 at 23:09 (2,261 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 978946 , Reply# 2   1/19/2018 at 07:49 (2,260 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 978950 , Reply# 3   1/19/2018 at 09:05 (2,260 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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"Here goes nothing." That's what the SQ people thought when they sent out the press release. |
Post# 978996 , Reply# 5   1/19/2018 at 13:47 (2,260 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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Improved wash quality??? Wow they really are in denial. |
Post# 979007 , Reply# 6   1/19/2018 at 14:12 (2,260 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Post# 979008 , Reply# 7   1/19/2018 at 14:13 (2,260 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 979010 , Reply# 8   1/19/2018 at 14:29 (2,260 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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I tried commenting on their press release, it says my comment is awaiting moderation.
Lets just see if they actually post it! Harley, are you sure? Myself, I'd put more stock in the toilet plunger.
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Post# 979014 , Reply# 10   1/19/2018 at 14:48 (2,260 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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anybody and everybody will boast their own product, GM, Chrysler, Ford, Etc all think they make the best vehicle...this is no different
Better build quality and longevity are their main concerns, tag in a more gentle wash.....people will buy into that! people bought into Maytag for their "Dependability" not their great vigorous wash action....which was certainly a drop from their wringer machines....if people knew how the machine gave into a load to save the machine, why else did the machine stop when the lid was raised?... the vids are helpful insights to the machine.....as with any machine, skepticism is warranted, but with any machine, I rather have a hands on use of an actual machine, hear from someone who sells and works on them, before listening to someones best guess..... |
Post# 979025 , Reply# 11   1/19/2018 at 15:06 (2,260 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I wonder how big the motor is in terms of size. I know it's a 1 hp motor. How tough is the pulley? How many ribs are on the belt? I heard it's the toughest machine they've ever made. |
Post# 979057 , Reply# 13   1/19/2018 at 18:40 (2,260 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 979400 , Reply# 15   1/22/2018 at 06:42 (2,257 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 979412 , Reply# 16   1/22/2018 at 09:47 (2,257 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 979432 , Reply# 17   1/22/2018 at 12:15 (2,257 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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The clips were edited. I wish they'd compare the noise level of their new 2018 models to their older ones like GE did! |
Post# 979437 , Reply# 18   1/22/2018 at 12:31 (2,257 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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this new machine may prove beneficial to actual better rinsing and extraction than the older models.....
if you think your current SQ does OK with spinning and rinsing....pop the front panel off, and while spinning a full load, with your finger, reach under the motor and add some tension to the idler, and watch the spin speed increase drastically.... I just installed a new belt, everything appeared to work as it should.....until I increased the spring tension on the pulley, and noticed the increase in speed, and better extraction of water from the load.... just from the first wash water spin, better extraction will give you clearer rinsing, and a faster final spin will reduce your drying time... |
Post# 979441 , Reply# 19   1/22/2018 at 12:58 (2,257 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 979444 , Reply# 20   1/22/2018 at 13:09 (2,257 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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So how much deflection should the belt be tensioned too, How tight is too tight? How do you change to "the high speed motor wingdings"? What's a wingding in this context? I hopefully will have a SQ TL machine soon and I am interested in all the mods. The following I know about (thx Martin!): Drill out the hot water inlet Drill out both inlets Remove the device(?) from the end of the drain hose Increase the waterfall effect by sealing off exit behind basket Swap in a better agitator (seems to depend on just what kind you favor) Increase tub water fill to top Did I miss any, please let us know, thx. |
Post# 979460 , Reply# 21   1/22/2018 at 17:12 (2,257 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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I wrote "windings" not "wingdings". Windings are the many loops of wire wound inside the motor that when energized produce a magnetic field which sebsequently spins the armature(center shaft). Two speed motors are used in the old style SQ top loaders, these employ two sets of windings. For the first spin, the windings inside the motor that are for slow speed are energized. This yields less extraction of sudsy wash water before the rinse thus resulting in less effective rinsing. If the windings for the high speed operation were energized instead, the machine would have a fast first spin.
Looking at a schematic would yield exactly what to do, but it certainly seems like it would be possible to me. |
Post# 979461 , Reply# 22   1/22/2018 at 17:29 (2,257 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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the only advantage to that 'change' would be for models where the speed is controlled by the timer...
the only thing that might change is giving a high speed spin for Gentle or PermPress cycles.... but during Regular/Normal cycles, all spins are high speed by default... no matter what speed your using, if the belt is not gripping enough, you not reaching its full potential of the 710rpms for Normal... |
Post# 979464 , Reply# 23   1/22/2018 at 18:06 (2,257 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 979505 , Reply# 24   1/22/2018 at 20:21 (2,257 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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oh yeah, on those models, the speed is slowed down for the saturation rinse....
you would think they would have stepped the spin speeds for when the rinse spray is on, and then off...jumping back and forth slow to high... wonder if there would be a way to re-program the cycle.....high speed at first to extract as much soap as possible, then do the stepped spins for the ECO cycle... I still think you might get a better extraction if the belt were a bit tighter...all you can do is try adding some tension during a spin to see if there is any improvement... |
Post# 979508 , Reply# 25   1/22/2018 at 20:50 (2,257 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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Here is a sound comparison they did to their competitor. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK |
Post# 979532 , Reply# 26   1/23/2018 at 01:55 (2,257 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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As for noise tests... I suppose there is a plus to a quiet machine. Certainly, it's a selling point for some. As I've commented before, noise (or lack of) was a major talking point of one woman who sold appliances at my nearest Home Depot. I, personally, value washing performance more, and, in that regard, the new Speed Queen doesn't seem acceptable based on the available information.
Also the noisier competitor in this video doesn't seem that noisy...although I'm only judging that based on this video, not in the real world. But then I'm currently using a BOL WP DD, which is quite audible when running...
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Post# 979538 , Reply# 27   1/23/2018 at 04:11 (2,256 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 979679 , Reply# 28   1/24/2018 at 09:40 (2,255 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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When I saw the video, they said the speed queen sounded like a spa, or being at a beach somewhere. Really? |
Post# 979699 , Reply# 29   1/24/2018 at 10:53 (2,255 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Noise has to be the stupidest "bug" or "feature" comparison in modern times.
There's people on many review sites who have gone from a KM or WP DD washer, to a WP or GE inverter motor machine, with no trans, and they screech online how noisy those new machines are. Granted they have the intermittent electric motor sound with no transmission, but how the HECK can they go from a DD machine to a new machine and say it's too noisy? Boggles my mind. |
Post# 979703 , Reply# 30   1/24/2018 at 11:04 (2,255 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Exactly John!
you know, if you hit the 'mute' key while watching a vid, the machine is almost silent... as most installs are in an alcove, bathroom, basement....noise levels aren't really a factor....some machines are soothing to hear operate.... at the last house, my neptunes were in the kitchen, loved hearing the sound of the spin ramp up which sounded like a jet taking off.....not like I was running a load while sleeping!... if people only had a 'mute' button!....at least you know the machine will stop! |